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Neutrons escaping to a parallel world?

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  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

    lewax00 wrote:

    Parallel universes have not been proved to exist or not exist, so they are still a possibility, even if they sound crazy.

    Every religious person who believes in a higher being falls under this category, whether they like to believe so or not. The only difference between science and religion in this regard is that we take it as "fact" what the wise men say because they are "learned", whereas we take it as bullshit what the religious say because they are "ignorant". Science is ever changing, I agree. Unfortunately, religion is about the end game and that cannot be proven, IMHO, when it is infinitely far away. Religion will always be more about the why, whereas science is more about the how. I do not see them as opposites.

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    There are a couple of possibilities: 1: The religious person perceives evidence of god - evidence that you do not perceive, thereby exposing a deficiency on your part. 2: The religious person perceives evidence which doesn't exist, thereby exposing a deficiency on his/her part. In short, you cannot be sure if you merely lack the ability to perceive a god or if others are delusional. I don't fault you for responding to the evidence that brings you to atheism but you aren't capable of knowing what others are experiencing and what evidence they have available to them. Your arrogant declarations about science vs. religion are hot air.

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      There are a couple of possibilities: 1: The religious person perceives evidence of god - evidence that you do not perceive, thereby exposing a deficiency on your part. 2: The religious person perceives evidence which doesn't exist, thereby exposing a deficiency on his/her part. In short, you cannot be sure if you merely lack the ability to perceive a god or if others are delusional. I don't fault you for responding to the evidence that brings you to atheism but you aren't capable of knowing what others are experiencing and what evidence they have available to them. Your arrogant declarations about science vs. religion are hot air.

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      Bassam Abdul Baki
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      MehGerbil wrote:

      I don't fault you for responding to the evidence that brings you to atheism

      Umm, I'm a deist. I believe in God.

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      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

        Seriously, science has to start coming up with more concrete answers than "since we can't explain it, it must exist elsewhere", otherwise, it's no different than theology.

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        wizardzz
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        I agree, there is a "if we can't currently explain it, parallel worlds are likely the cause" response that is annoying to see. I think your theology comment pissed off a few though.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          PhysOrg:

          the loss rate of very slow free neutrons appeared to depend on the direction and strength of the magnetic field applied. This anomaly could not be explained by known physics. Berezhiani believes it could be interpreted in the light of a hypothetical parallel world consisting of mirror particles.

          http://phys.org/news/2012-06-neutrons-parallel-world.html[^] <Neo>Whoa...</Neo>

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          I've noticed the same thing for years with my pairs of matching socks, and I don't even have a physics degree.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            :doh:

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Brisingr Aerowing
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            :thumbsup: I have done that myself before, usually when tired/distracted/etc.

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            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

              MehGerbil wrote:

              I don't fault you for responding to the evidence that brings you to atheism

              Umm, I'm a deist. I believe in God.

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              Lost User
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              The point still stands.

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              • W wizardzz

                I agree, there is a "if we can't currently explain it, parallel worlds are likely the cause" response that is annoying to see. I think your theology comment pissed off a few though.

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                There's always someone. Whereas I'm always reminded of this XKCD[^] joke whenever the issue of fact comes into play.

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                • W wizardzz

                  I agree, there is a "if we can't currently explain it, parallel worlds are likely the cause" response that is annoying to see. I think your theology comment pissed off a few though.

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                  Wanna help us burn him at the stake? You get to wear the robes this time.

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                  • L Lost User

                    The point still stands.

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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    As does mine. One does not negate the other.

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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      If you were talking about Keanu Reeves the actor, I would think you were discussing neurons escaping to a parallel world...

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      Why does everyone think Keanu is stupid?

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                      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                        As does mine. One does not negate the other.

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                        I've a great rebuttle to your point. It's located in a different universe though.

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                          Why does everyone think Keanu is stupid?

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          Because of the movie that made him famous.

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                            I've a great rebuttle to your point. It's located in a different universe though.

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            This one: One does not negate the other. Funny you edited your text while I was posting. The preview has changed.

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                            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                              Because of the movie that made him famous.

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                              The Matrix didn't redeem him, I guess.

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                              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                This one: One does not negate the other. Funny you edited your text while I was posting. The preview has changed.

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                                I didn't care to continue the debate. I nearly pulled out my 'A' material which is so convincing that you would have lost your free will. ;P

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                                  The Matrix didn't redeem him, I guess.

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                                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                  Just because they make fun of him, doesn't mean they believe he's stupid. He's one of the few actors I respect and admire. Doesn't mean I can't make fun of him every now and then.

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                                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                    Been watching a lot of Perry Mason lately and am learning not to say anything that would incriminate myself therefore I can say "maybe"!

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                                    S Houghtelin
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                                    You're a wise man :) I like to be like Perry Mason once in awhile and work on a case... usually beer.

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                                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                      But they accept the fact that there exists a parallel universe without ever actually seeing one. That to me sounds like faith.

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                                      Chris Losinger
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                                      it's a hypothesis, not unquestioned dogma. two guys in Italy wrote a paper. it's not a Papal dictate.

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                                        I didn't care to continue the debate. I nearly pulled out my 'A' material which is so convincing that you would have lost your free will. ;P

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                                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                        Lucky for you then. It takes a God to change my mind and will. And I already have absolute faith in one and have no need for another.

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                                          There are a couple of possibilities: 1: The religious person perceives evidence of god - evidence that you do not perceive, thereby exposing a deficiency on your part. 2: The religious person perceives evidence which doesn't exist, thereby exposing a deficiency on his/her part. In short, you cannot be sure if you merely lack the ability to perceive a god or if others are delusional. I don't fault you for responding to the evidence that brings you to atheism but you aren't capable of knowing what others are experiencing and what evidence they have available to them. Your arrogant declarations about science vs. religion are hot air.

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                                          Chris Losinger
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                                          MehGerbil wrote:

                                          In short, you cannot be sure if you merely lack the ability to perceive a god or if others are delusional

                                          when you have to resort to "but really, what is knowledge" to support a position, that position is on very shaky ground.

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