Neutrons escaping to a parallel world?
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There are a couple of possibilities: 1: The religious person perceives evidence of god - evidence that you do not perceive, thereby exposing a deficiency on your part. 2: The religious person perceives evidence which doesn't exist, thereby exposing a deficiency on his/her part. In short, you cannot be sure if you merely lack the ability to perceive a god or if others are delusional. I don't fault you for responding to the evidence that brings you to atheism but you aren't capable of knowing what others are experiencing and what evidence they have available to them. Your arrogant declarations about science vs. religion are hot air.
MehGerbil wrote:
In short, you cannot be sure if you merely lack the ability to perceive a god or if others are delusional
Except of course there are other possibilities. For example and there are others: - 2 does not preclude the existence of God. - 1 does not perceive God because God is explicitly preventing them from seeing it.
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Because science has shown it to be logical and thus far holds true. We could all claim that the spaghetti monster was summining a new batch thus causing the effect, but there is no logical reasoning for that. Its not used to explain the unknown. It is used to understand a possbile reason. Scientists can then work from that theory to further prove or disprove the original hypothesis. This is then when the key difference occurs. Scientists will adjust their theory accordingly where as using faith people tend to adjust the meaning of the findings.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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MehGerbil wrote:
In short, you cannot be sure if you merely lack the ability to perceive a god or if others are delusional
Except of course there are other possibilities. For example and there are others: - 2 does not preclude the existence of God. - 1 does not perceive God because God is explicitly preventing them from seeing it.
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PhysOrg:
the loss rate of very slow free neutrons appeared to depend on the direction and strength of the magnetic field applied. This anomaly could not be explained by known physics. Berezhiani believes it could be interpreted in the light of a hypothetical parallel world consisting of mirror particles.
http://phys.org/news/2012-06-neutrons-parallel-world.html[^] <Neo>Whoa...</Neo>
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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MehGerbil wrote:
In short, you cannot be sure if you merely lack the ability to perceive a god or if others are delusional
when you have to resort to "but really, what is knowledge" to support a position, that position is on very shaky ground.
Some atheists are comfortable viewing all theists as delusional. Some theists are comfortable viewing all atheists as obstinate. I'd rather give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that a person is responding to reality as they experience it until proven otherwise. Given that in most instances that approach costs me absolutely nothing - to be gracious - it's hardly a problem.
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Some atheists are comfortable viewing all theists as delusional. Some theists are comfortable viewing all atheists as obstinate. I'd rather give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that a person is responding to reality as they experience it until proven otherwise. Given that in most instances that approach costs me absolutely nothing - to be gracious - it's hardly a problem.
MehGerbil wrote:
it's hardly a problem
i never said simple religious tolerance is any kind of problem.
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I've seen a couple interviews with him. I was left with the impression he's dumber than a box of hammers.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
box of hammers
What have you got against hammers?
Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy Please stand in front of my pistol, smile and wait for the flash - JSOP 2012
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You're a wise man :) I like to be like Perry Mason once in awhile and work on a case... usually beer.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
S Houghtelin wrote:
I like to be like Perry Mason once in awhile and work on a case... usually beer.
24 hours in the day and 24 bottles in a case...coincidence?, I think not!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1 -
Ah now I understand how some people I know can slip in and out of stupid so effortlessly.
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1Mike Hankey wrote:
slip in and out of stupid so effortlessly
Hey! I resemble that remark!
Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy Please stand in front of my pistol, smile and wait for the flash - JSOP 2012
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Gary Wheeler wrote:
box of hammers
What have you got against hammers?
Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy Please stand in front of my pistol, smile and wait for the flash - JSOP 2012
Nothing at all. I like hammers. I know a couple personally, including a rather nice sledge. A 'box of hammers', however, is a rather silly idea, unless you are a manufacturer of hammers shipping them to your stores for sales.
Software Zen:
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S Houghtelin wrote:
I like to be like Perry Mason once in awhile and work on a case... usually beer.
24 hours in the day and 24 bottles in a case...coincidence?, I think not!
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1Solid evidence if I've ever heard it! :laugh:
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Nothing at all. I like hammers. I know a couple personally, including a rather nice sledge. A 'box of hammers', however, is a rather silly idea, unless you are a manufacturer of hammers shipping them to your stores for sales.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
a rather nice sledge
Ahhh Percy? :-)
Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy Please stand in front of my pistol, smile and wait for the flash - JSOP 2012
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I've seen this alternate universe. It's called Sunderland. It's a cold, barrem place, inhabited by troll creatures from the nether regions of hell. Satan is a mackem.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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I've seen this alternate universe. It's called Sunderland. It's a cold, barrem place, inhabited by troll creatures from the nether regions of hell. Satan is a mackem.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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Is getting in the last word important in your culture? Never mind. Don't answer that. :laugh:
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PhysOrg:
the loss rate of very slow free neutrons appeared to depend on the direction and strength of the magnetic field applied. This anomaly could not be explained by known physics. Berezhiani believes it could be interpreted in the light of a hypothetical parallel world consisting of mirror particles.
http://phys.org/news/2012-06-neutrons-parallel-world.html[^] <Neo>Whoa...</Neo>
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I told you the matrix did exist Long life Neo and Alice in wonderland
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Yes. This is what happens when typing on a phone keyboard.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
