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How to tell your lead developer has never used MVC

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  • B Brady Kelly

    By custom I mean not using third party 'ajax widgets' (essentially controls, but that suggests postbacks and viewstate and is a dirty word), but manually coding ajax points. MVC has ajax actions et al, which request and refresh only a small page portion, but I hardly even use those and just use a jQuery.ajax call. The transparency is what makes it all so much easier.

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    Brady Kelly wrote:

    ... but manually coding ajax points. MVC has ajax actions et al, which request and refresh only a small page portion, but I hardly even use those and just use a jQuery.ajax call. The transparency is what makes it all so much easier.

    Hi Brady, how I wish I could understand, to a deep level, what you just expressed in these words ! Care to write a CP article for larval-level MVC learners ? best, Bill

    It keeps me humble to think there's more bacteria in my gut than neurons in my brain, and that twenty trillion neutrinos pass through one hand a second, and that the average mattress contains 20 million bedbugs each of whom shits once per hour.

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      Brady Kelly wrote:

      ... but manually coding ajax points. MVC has ajax actions et al, which request and refresh only a small page portion, but I hardly even use those and just use a jQuery.ajax call. The transparency is what makes it all so much easier.

      Hi Brady, how I wish I could understand, to a deep level, what you just expressed in these words ! Care to write a CP article for larval-level MVC learners ? best, Bill

      It keeps me humble to think there's more bacteria in my gut than neurons in my brain, and that twenty trillion neutrinos pass through one hand a second, and that the average mattress contains 20 million bedbugs each of whom shits once per hour.

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      I think I will. Tonight even. I am really trying to avoid procrastinating any writing, but am engaged in coding right now. There are already a great many articles on this, but none by me.

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      • B BobJanova

        ... we can still use 'classic' ASP.Net controls where it makes sense

        (sotto voce) i.e. never

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        Sasha Laurel
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        My thoughts exactly! :-D

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        • B BillWoodruff

          Brady Kelly wrote:

          MS do have what looks to be fairly nice with Expression Web.

          Hi Brady, I believe this is the first positive comment I've ever seen on CP on "Expression Web," but I am "skimmer" on the "surface of the pond here," so may be off, on that. And maybe I'm confusing what you are describing with the "Expression" tool that came out with WPF during MS's phase of promoting how designers and programmers can be symbiotic ? best, Bill

          It keeps me humble to think there's more bacteria in my gut than neurons in my brain, and that twenty trillion neutrinos pass through one hand a second, and that the average mattress contains 20 million bedbugs each of whom shits once per hour.

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          I think it is that same tool, but there is Expression Blend that is for holy matrimony between designers and dirty ol' developers, where Expression Web is more just for designers. At current v4 both seem to have a good following and some respect.

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          • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

            You pansy tulip bed wetters use MVC? Crap, I use assembly for web development! :-D


            - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! Code, follow, or get out of the way.

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            Drawing angle brackets pixel by pixel with a loop.

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            • L Lost User

              Sorry, Brian, but when someone defines incompetency with not sharing his preferences, then I would gladly leave. I would rather stand at a grill and flip burgers than bow before someone who threatens to fire me at every minor issue. Now I'm scared. I'm beginning to sound like JSOP :)

              At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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              Brian C Hart
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              I wasn't sharing his preferences he was being ignorant of something the boss wanted. Besides I was being sardonically sarcastic (not easy to tell from the text)

              Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart

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                Sorry, Brian, but when someone defines incompetency with not sharing his preferences, then I would gladly leave. I would rather stand at a grill and flip burgers than bow before someone who threatens to fire me at every minor issue. Now I'm scared. I'm beginning to sound like JSOP :)

                At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                Brian C Hart
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                I would be more inclined to tell the guy, if it really was a standard we were wanting to set with the code, go read up on ASP.NET MVC and then implement it.

                Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart

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                • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                  Fire his ass for being incompetent

                  Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart

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                  Well... that would be a bit drastic.

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                    Well... that would be a bit drastic.

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                    Brian C Hart
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                    I would be more inclined to tell the guy, if it really was a standard we were wanting to set with the code, go read up on ASP.NET MVC and then implement it.

                    Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart

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                    • B Brady Kelly

                      I think it is that same tool, but there is Expression Blend that is for holy matrimony between designers and dirty ol' developers, where Expression Web is more just for designers. At current v4 both seem to have a good following and some respect.

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                      Thanks, Brady, you are correct: I was not aware of "Expression Web," (never used ASP.NET) and assumed you were speaking of "Expression Blend." Appreciate your clarifying this for me. I will go and take a look at "Expression Web:" now. best, Bill

                      It keeps me humble to think there's more bacteria in my gut than neurons in my brain, and that twenty trillion neutrinos pass through one hand a second, and that the average mattress contains 20 million bedbugs each of whom shits once per hour.

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