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Why I hate Perl today

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  • B BobJanova

    Did you know that it's impossible in Perl to tell the difference between '1' and 1.0? The language knows that one is a string and one is a number, but (unlike PHP which has similar flexible typing) it won't tell you which something is! This is rather annoying when trying to interface with another language (Java, in this case) where that kind of matters.

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    Andrei Straut
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    BobJanova wrote:

    The language knows that one is a string and one is a number, but it won't tell you which something is

    When programming languages start keeping secrets, you know the world is truly elephanted Here, have a cookie.

    Full-fledged Java/.NET lover, full-fledged PHP hater. Full-fledged Google/Microsoft lover, full-fledged Apple hater. Full-fledged Skype lover, full-fledged YM hater.

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    • D Dalek Dave

      Richard MacCutchan wrote:

      innocent developers

      ?

      --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link suspended until further notice. It can be reached at www.greystarling.co.uk/ccc.htm This is due to the Spam Cockup.

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      Lost User
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      I was once innocent. ;)

      One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

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        I was once innocent. ;)

        One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

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        Dalek Dave
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        I was innocent, just the once.

        --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link suspended until further notice. It can be reached at www.greystarling.co.uk/ccc.htm This is due to the Spam Cockup.

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        • L Lost User

          I was once innocent. ;)

          One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          Good lawyer?


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Good lawyer?


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            Dalek Dave
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            Bent Lawyer!

            --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link suspended until further notice. It can be reached at www.greystarling.co.uk/ccc.htm This is due to the Spam Cockup.

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            • A Andrei Straut

              I'm particularly in hate with PHP today (more so than usually), so I feel your pain :thumbsup: I think we should get a special forum where we can f*** #@$%$@@# #$@^^@ ^#(%$@!%^# ^*&#@#& (*$%$#&* till calm sets in

              Full-fledged Java/.NET lover, full-fledged PHP hater. Full-fledged Google/Microsoft lover, full-fledged Apple hater. Full-fledged Skype lover, full-fledged YM hater.

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              Lost User
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              I just read your signature. Quick question: Are you ever half-fledged?

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              • L Lost User

                Did you know that Perl is an abomination, invented to cause anger and distress to innocent developers?

                One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

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                CPallini
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                Yes, he knows that, but won't tell you.

                Veni, vidi, vici.

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                • L Lost User

                  I just read your signature. Quick question: Are you ever half-fledged?

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                  Andrei Straut
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                  Yes, I have a love-hate relationship with SQL (be it my, Oracle or MS). I also have mixed feelings for Win8 and WinPhone 7/.5 Besides that and in general, yes, I'm a half-fledged developer :) But usually, when I hate or love something, I do it fully, and no arguments can convince me :)

                  Full-fledged Java/.NET lover, full-fledged PHP hater. Full-fledged Google/Microsoft lover, full-fledged Apple hater. Full-fledged Skype lover, full-fledged YM hater.

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                  • L Lost User

                    I was once innocent. ;)

                    One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

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                    BobJanova
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                    Aye ... the day before you started developing :)

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                    • B BobJanova

                      Aye ... the day before you started developing :)

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                      Lost User
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                      :-D

                      One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

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                      • A Andrei Straut

                        I'm particularly in hate with PHP today (more so than usually), so I feel your pain :thumbsup: I think we should get a special forum where we can f*** #@$%$@@# #$@^^@ ^#(%$@!%^# ^*&#@#& (*$%$#&* till calm sets in

                        Full-fledged Java/.NET lover, full-fledged PHP hater. Full-fledged Google/Microsoft lover, full-fledged Apple hater. Full-fledged Skype lover, full-fledged YM hater.

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                        Florin Jurcovici
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                        Judging by your signature, you are also fully-fledged security-unaware. More secure: Google, Java, Apple, YM. Less secure: skype, MS, PHP.

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                        • B BobJanova

                          Did you know that it's impossible in Perl to tell the difference between '1' and 1.0? The language knows that one is a string and one is a number, but (unlike PHP which has similar flexible typing) it won't tell you which something is! This is rather annoying when trying to interface with another language (Java, in this case) where that kind of matters.

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                          dpminusa
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                          If you are interested, CPAN has modules you can add that help minimize this issue. Look for the scalar modules. Maybe not 100% but easy to use for most situations. Maybe this will reduce your frustration somewhat. Cheers.

                          "Courtesy is the product of a mature, disciplined mind ... ridicule is lack of the same - DPM"

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                          • B BobJanova

                            Did you know that it's impossible in Perl to tell the difference between '1' and 1.0? The language knows that one is a string and one is a number, but (unlike PHP which has similar flexible typing) it won't tell you which something is! This is rather annoying when trying to interface with another language (Java, in this case) where that kind of matters.

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                            Kirk Wood
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                            TryParse. You can't go wrong.

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                            • A Andrei Straut

                              BobJanova wrote:

                              The language knows that one is a string and one is a number, but it won't tell you which something is

                              When programming languages start keeping secrets, you know the world is truly elephanted Here, have a cookie.

                              Full-fledged Java/.NET lover, full-fledged PHP hater. Full-fledged Google/Microsoft lover, full-fledged Apple hater. Full-fledged Skype lover, full-fledged YM hater.

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                              Kirk Wood
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                              Actually, either of them can be used as a string or a number in Perl. If a string converts then it can easily be used as a number. You simply can't make what looks like a number not act like a number. (Nor can you ever stip something from being treated as a string.) I would encourage you to really learn a language instead of learning its syntax.

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                              • B BobJanova

                                Did you know that it's impossible in Perl to tell the difference between '1' and 1.0? The language knows that one is a string and one is a number, but (unlike PHP which has similar flexible typing) it won't tell you which something is! This is rather annoying when trying to interface with another language (Java, in this case) where that kind of matters.

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                                thomas michaud
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                                Old issue: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node\_id=766000

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  Bent Lawyer!

                                  --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link suspended until further notice. It can be reached at www.greystarling.co.uk/ccc.htm This is due to the Spam Cockup.

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                                  mpmansell
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                                  Type cast lawyer ?

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