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  • R realJSOP

    Holy crap on a cracker...

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Possibly the best description I've read of it.

    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

    CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      Possibly the best description I've read of it.

      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

      CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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      realJSOP
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      I can't claim ownership of the phrase, and must thank Penny on Big Bang Theory (from the episode where Sheldon got a groupie, and Penny walked in on her giving Sheldon a pedicure).

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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      • R realJSOP

        JimmeP wrote:

        One thing to check is if the references of any of the assemblies now point to the framework version 4.5 instead of 4? We had that problem when moving from 3.5 to 4.0...

        How could installing VS2012 possibly change the solutions themselves? If the solution is set to use .Net 4 (or earlier), VS2012 has no business changing it until I tell it to. Besides, the problem was discovered before even firing up VS2012 for the first time, and in a copied version of the solution.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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        Matt T Heffron
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        You do know that the .Net 4.5 BCL does NOT co-exist with 4.0. It replaces the 4.0 BCL when it installs! The 4.5 BCL installs with VS 2012.

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        • R realJSOP

          I can't claim ownership of the phrase, and must thank Penny on Big Bang Theory (from the episode where Sheldon got a groupie, and Penny walked in on her giving Sheldon a pedicure).

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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          Pete OHanlon
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          That's where I heard it before. I can't believe I didn't make the connection.

          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

          CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            If you plan to continue developing for .NET 4, you really shouldn't use VS2012. The reason I say this is because of this[^] post. For those who don't want to read it, .NET 4.5 is an in place upgrade to .NET 4. In doing this, there are fixes to the .NET 4 binaries that mean that your application won't see bugs on machines with 4.5 that may well exist on machines with .NET 4 binaries installed. This could well lead to hidden bugs in your application.

            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

            CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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            realJSOP
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            So I guess it follows that if you develop a 4.0 app with VS2012, and someone installs it on their .Net 4.0 system, and they're forced to upgrade .Net 4.0, it could possibly break all of the older .Net 4-reliant apps on their system. How the f*ck did this one get by Microsoft "quality control"?

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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            • R realJSOP

              So I guess it follows that if you develop a 4.0 app with VS2012, and someone installs it on their .Net 4.0 system, and they're forced to upgrade .Net 4.0, it could possibly break all of the older .Net 4-reliant apps on their system. How the f*ck did this one get by Microsoft "quality control"?

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              Pete OHanlon
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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              So I guess it follows that if you develop a 4.0 app with VS2012, and someone installs it on their .Net 4.0 system, and they're forced to upgrade .Net 4.0, it could possibly break all of the older .Net 4-reliant apps on their system.

              Not quite. They'd have to install .NET 4.5 to get the fixed version that matches your system. If they still use original .NET 4, there could be good old fashioned bugs in there that won't manifest on your system. Oh, and the fact of upgrading their system to 4.5 could end up breaking another .NET 4 application which has a workround that fixes one of the bugs.

              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              How the f*ck did this one get by Microsoft "quality control"?

              Asked and answered there mate.

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

              CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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              • F fjdiewornncalwe

                I've been planning on pulling 2012 down this coming weekend. I suppose your issues mean I should be safer and use a VM for this instead of a side-by-side install with 2010 on my main development machine.

                I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                Or install VS2012 FIRST, then install VS2010

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                • R realJSOP

                  I suppose that's true - afterall, they removed the Start button from Windows...

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  removed the Start button

                  Not really. It's a Start Screen now.

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                  • R realJSOP

                    So I guess it follows that if you develop a 4.0 app with VS2012, and someone installs it on their .Net 4.0 system, and they're forced to upgrade .Net 4.0, it could possibly break all of the older .Net 4-reliant apps on their system. How the f*ck did this one get by Microsoft "quality control"?

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    Kevin Marois
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    How the f*ck did this one get by Microsoft "quality control"?

                    You actually used the words "Microsoft" and "Quality" in the same sentence????

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                    • K Kevin Marois

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      How the f*ck did this one get by Microsoft "quality control"?

                      You actually used the words "Microsoft" and "Quality" in the same sentence????

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                      realJSOP
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                      Sorry - sometimes I lose control and just start saying stuff... :)

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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