Problems eating, wtf?
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Andy Brummer wrote:
Does this happen on rest days, or more on training days?
It happens every day at any eating time or near food.
Andy Brummer wrote:
Are you getting enough rest days?
Probably not. I tend to take one day off a week now that we started tough mudder training. I didn't used to take a day off at all. I did at least once every day, and twice on week days.
Andy Brummer wrote:
How much real food are you eating vs. processed?
Evening foods lately have been processed about 1/2 - 3/4 of the time. I have been having a shake in the mornings, but that's been going on for a while now, and this just started.
Andy Brummer wrote:
Are you cutting, gaining or just maintaining?
cutting. Just started again a week or two ago after being on maintaining a while.
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Ok, what advice would you give someone that was cutting without any rest days while increasing their training load and not eating a solid diet. :) Sometimes it is hardest to see what is going on with our own lives. BTW. if you are trying to get specific results without keeping meticulous food, training, sleep etc. logs, you are missing out. Rest is a really important part of training, you make gains while you rest not while you work. If you aren't working in back off periods and rest days you will eventually get to the point where you are risking over training.
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I take vitamins and get decent sleep. I have to look again, but I think my diet is pretty good balance wise.
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You're not doing anything drastic like cutting carbs or fats? A couple of people around here have found themselves in trouble doing a paleo / atkins style routine while working out a ton.
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So since Friday I have been having a little problem that is sorta freaking me out. I call it "food mode" but here is a little description: When I eat, or am around food I have an uncontrollable urge to just eat. I will eat until I almost get sick, and then I summon the will power (for fear of vomiting) to stop. While I'm sitting with actual pain in my stomach from eating to much, I'm still hungry. Like my mind and body are telling me I need to eat. I will continue eating until there is no more readily available food. Even when I stop eating, the hungry feeling lasts around 15 minutes after. It's like munchies I guess, but like a super uncontrollable version. So far I've been able to do things like salad, steamed veggies, cheese sticks, veggie straws, etc, so I haven't been blowing my calories out of the water. It's been kinda freaking me out because I can't really control it. My first thought after a couple of days in a row was that I need to excercise more so I don't gain any weight. Now I think that maybe it's not normal. It certainly feels like a problem. Thoughts? -edit The list of foods above is in addition to the meal. I still eat the planned meal as well. -end
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Until you see a doctor try to eat slowly. Take breaks and come back to the food after a few minutes. That way you're giving your stomach a chance to let your brain know that you are full. In any case, the odd binge is fine. All that dieting is fine but sometimes you just need to have pancakes.
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Ok, what advice would you give someone that was cutting without any rest days while increasing their training load and not eating a solid diet. :) Sometimes it is hardest to see what is going on with our own lives. BTW. if you are trying to get specific results without keeping meticulous food, training, sleep etc. logs, you are missing out. Rest is a really important part of training, you make gains while you rest not while you work. If you aren't working in back off periods and rest days you will eventually get to the point where you are risking over training.
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Nope. I had tried a near paleo thing a while back but didn't like it.
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When I started working out, about a month ago, my appetite increased dramatically. I probably eat twice as much as I did when I was more sedentary. Doing 1-2 hours a day about 4 days a week. I've had days where I just don't get full, but I just stop by choice.
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Until you see a doctor try to eat slowly. Take breaks and come back to the food after a few minutes. That way you're giving your stomach a chance to let your brain know that you are full. In any case, the odd binge is fine. All that dieting is fine but sometimes you just need to have pancakes.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
try to eat slowly. Take breaks and come back to the food after a few minutes
That is the problem. I'm actually not capable. It's more than just want, it's a serious unctrolled thing. That is what is freaking me out. It's not like I can just stop it for a little bit.
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I dont really think a doctor can fix it, or would know. I'd be more apt to talk to my coach and he would either send me to the team nutritionist or someone else who would actually know. I might get ahold of the homeopath that helped me with my back though.
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loctrice wrote:
someone else who would actually know
loctrice wrote:
homeopath
Mutually. Exclusive. Sets. nutritionist is a good idea.
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When I started working out, about a month ago, my appetite increased dramatically. I probably eat twice as much as I did when I was more sedentary. Doing 1-2 hours a day about 4 days a week. I've had days where I just don't get full, but I just stop by choice.
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wizardzz wrote:
I just stop
thats the issue. I can't stop unless I run out of stuff to eat. I mean it when I say I can't stop, not like I just don't want to or I'm still hungry.
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mark merrens wrote:
try to eat slowly. Take breaks and come back to the food after a few minutes
That is the problem. I'm actually not capable. It's more than just want, it's a serious unctrolled thing. That is what is freaking me out. It's not like I can just stop it for a little bit.
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It seems to me that you have displayed incredible self control in getting to where you want to be. How about digging a little deeper and finding a touch more now? I know you are motivated and determined: try showing some of the steel you'll need in the ring.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Andy Brummer wrote:
Ok, what advice would you give someone that was cutting without any rest days while increasing their training load and not eating a solid diet.
But I do have a solid diet.
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Ok, that might be the case, but if I understand the rest of what you said, you are training at a higher level than you have trained at before. You are dealing with the stress from your sponsorship, and you are cutting. I'm also assuming that you aren't keeping logs because you haven't mentioned them at all. You should rule out the chance that this is a medical condition. You should also definitely run this by your trainer or coach. If you don't have one, you probably need to get one, especially if you are looking to go pro. It's not something you need if you just want to stay in shape, but managing intense training sessions over a long period of time is a skill completely separate from actually doing the work. You should have a training and eating plan with periodization, tapering and rest, and it's a lot easier to stick to it if someone is working with you.
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Actually thinking back to when this started I did do something different. I didnt eat much through the day, and ate to make it up at the end of the day. I ate once and then ate again about two hours later. I remember, after reading your link, telling my wife that I felt happy. I was absolutely stuffed, and still under my calorie limit. I hadn't been stuffed like that since about mid Feb. and it just made me feel good to be full. Like on thanksgiving I guess. That was the day it started. Maybe I broke myself doing that. I need to figure out how to fix it now :(
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loctrice wrote:
Actually thinking back to when this started I did do something different. I didnt eat much through the day, and ate to make it up at the end of the day. I ate once and then ate again about two hours later.
I know a few people that do crossfit workouts after fasting for 18 hours and then eating their full days worth of food during a 6 hour window. They've experimented with a few different ways of managing their exercise and food intake and that works best for them. That might work well for you as well.
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So since Friday I have been having a little problem that is sorta freaking me out. I call it "food mode" but here is a little description: When I eat, or am around food I have an uncontrollable urge to just eat. I will eat until I almost get sick, and then I summon the will power (for fear of vomiting) to stop. While I'm sitting with actual pain in my stomach from eating to much, I'm still hungry. Like my mind and body are telling me I need to eat. I will continue eating until there is no more readily available food. Even when I stop eating, the hungry feeling lasts around 15 minutes after. It's like munchies I guess, but like a super uncontrollable version. So far I've been able to do things like salad, steamed veggies, cheese sticks, veggie straws, etc, so I haven't been blowing my calories out of the water. It's been kinda freaking me out because I can't really control it. My first thought after a couple of days in a row was that I need to excercise more so I don't gain any weight. Now I think that maybe it's not normal. It certainly feels like a problem. Thoughts? -edit The list of foods above is in addition to the meal. I still eat the planned meal as well. -end
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So since Friday I have been having a little problem that is sorta freaking me out. I call it "food mode" but here is a little description: When I eat, or am around food I have an uncontrollable urge to just eat. I will eat until I almost get sick, and then I summon the will power (for fear of vomiting) to stop. While I'm sitting with actual pain in my stomach from eating to much, I'm still hungry. Like my mind and body are telling me I need to eat. I will continue eating until there is no more readily available food. Even when I stop eating, the hungry feeling lasts around 15 minutes after. It's like munchies I guess, but like a super uncontrollable version. So far I've been able to do things like salad, steamed veggies, cheese sticks, veggie straws, etc, so I haven't been blowing my calories out of the water. It's been kinda freaking me out because I can't really control it. My first thought after a couple of days in a row was that I need to excercise more so I don't gain any weight. Now I think that maybe it's not normal. It certainly feels like a problem. Thoughts? -edit The list of foods above is in addition to the meal. I still eat the planned meal as well. -end
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It sounds like your body's craving something you're not eating; protein, maybe? I'm getting a bit of that at the moment. I'm 3 weeks away from doing a marathon, so I've been running 40 miles a week and biking 50-60 miles. I get the raving lunatic munchies in the evening :-O.
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So since Friday I have been having a little problem that is sorta freaking me out. I call it "food mode" but here is a little description: When I eat, or am around food I have an uncontrollable urge to just eat. I will eat until I almost get sick, and then I summon the will power (for fear of vomiting) to stop. While I'm sitting with actual pain in my stomach from eating to much, I'm still hungry. Like my mind and body are telling me I need to eat. I will continue eating until there is no more readily available food. Even when I stop eating, the hungry feeling lasts around 15 minutes after. It's like munchies I guess, but like a super uncontrollable version. So far I've been able to do things like salad, steamed veggies, cheese sticks, veggie straws, etc, so I haven't been blowing my calories out of the water. It's been kinda freaking me out because I can't really control it. My first thought after a couple of days in a row was that I need to excercise more so I don't gain any weight. Now I think that maybe it's not normal. It certainly feels like a problem. Thoughts? -edit The list of foods above is in addition to the meal. I still eat the planned meal as well. -end
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I left off the obvious. :-D
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Ok, that might be the case, but if I understand the rest of what you said, you are training at a higher level than you have trained at before. You are dealing with the stress from your sponsorship, and you are cutting. I'm also assuming that you aren't keeping logs because you haven't mentioned them at all. You should rule out the chance that this is a medical condition. You should also definitely run this by your trainer or coach. If you don't have one, you probably need to get one, especially if you are looking to go pro. It's not something you need if you just want to stay in shape, but managing intense training sessions over a long period of time is a skill completely separate from actually doing the work. You should have a training and eating plan with periodization, tapering and rest, and it's a lot easier to stick to it if someone is working with you.
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It seems to me that you have displayed incredible self control in getting to where you want to be. How about digging a little deeper and finding a touch more now? I know you are motivated and determined: try showing some of the steel you'll need in the ring.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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It sounds like your body's craving something you're not eating; protein, maybe? I'm getting a bit of that at the moment. I'm 3 weeks away from doing a marathon, so I've been running 40 miles a week and biking 50-60 miles. I get the raving lunatic munchies in the evening :-O.
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I keep a calorie journal when I'm cutting which includes the food I eat and calorie content (not protein, carb, fat grams). I don't keep a workout log though
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I just roughly follow the whole macro nutrient level. I make sure I get a bunch of veggies and some fruit, but when I'm hungrier I try to fill up on fat and protein so I'll get fuller. Stuff like this and tracking improvements is a lot easier to keep a handle on when you write it down and can compare it to how you did last time. I haven't kept a workout journal myself, but I've never hit the same level of volume as you. My wife keeps one religiously for her olympic lifting and it's really helped her with progress and managing her food intake through all the different training cycles she goes through.
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