Can someone tell me why should I upgrade from VS 2008 to 2010 or 2012
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
It is significantly faster that 2010, has a ton of slight tweaks and improvements that generally make your coding experience nicer, and yes the dark theme is simply beautiful :)
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Ok, that's two Pro, and one Con. ;P And I'm not sure about the count - given Intellisense I wonder about the usability of the other two. I know a thing or two about parallel programming - enough to realize it is very hard to do right even if you know all the circumstances and conditions of a given problem. But if you don't - and that is what I suppose 'automated' implies - how can you guarantee a sensibly automated parallelization? :doh:
Stefan_Lang wrote:
how can you guarantee a sensibly automated parallelization?
Good question :-D I guess that dependence analysis obviously plays a big part in this, and that there are limits to how well the compiler is able to perform auto parallelization. So some code will see significant performance gains, while other pieces of code will see no improvement at all.
Stefan_Lang wrote:
enough to realize it is very hard to do right even if you know all the circumstances and conditions of a given problem
Right, and splitting the code between CUDA and the regular C++ compiler makes it harder to keep track of how everything fits together - which is where C++ AMP comes in.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
VS 2010 works much better with TFS 2010 than VS 2008. VS 2008 seems to have issues, some concepts in TFS 2010 just didn't exist in TFS 2008. So when we upgraded to TFS 2010 moving to VS 2010 made working with it easier. Saying that some of our old projects are in 2008 still.
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
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Is there a date for the XP support patch?
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There's a rumour there will be a beta version of it by end Sep 2012. Whether that's true is anyone's guess. Even if it is, my hunch is we won't see the final version of the XP patch before the end of the year.
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
If you are doing anything with WPF, the new editor is much nicer, faster/more responsive, and overall easier to use. The only thing I miss from 2008/2010 is the plugin that adds colored splashes to the scroll bar to inform you of the locations of errors, warnings, and search results. As others have said, it is an overall faster experience in all respects, and you get the new framework 4.5 features. If you look around (and I'm too lazy busy to look right now, you'll find lots of blog posts on the Visual Studio blog about the work they did to speed up Visual Studio.
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Stefan_Lang wrote:
how can you guarantee a sensibly automated parallelization?
Good question :-D I guess that dependence analysis obviously plays a big part in this, and that there are limits to how well the compiler is able to perform auto parallelization. So some code will see significant performance gains, while other pieces of code will see no improvement at all.
Stefan_Lang wrote:
enough to realize it is very hard to do right even if you know all the circumstances and conditions of a given problem
Right, and splitting the code between CUDA and the regular C++ compiler makes it harder to keep track of how everything fits together - which is where C++ AMP comes in.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt
That is assuming you even can use CUDA - not everyone uses NVIDIA ;) It would be so nice if AMD and NVIDIA would cooperate to work on a common standard for once. Officially they do, but CUDA is not it, and OpenCL is way behind :-\
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That is assuming you even can use CUDA - not everyone uses NVIDIA ;) It would be so nice if AMD and NVIDIA would cooperate to work on a common standard for once. Officially they do, but CUDA is not it, and OpenCL is way behind :-\
Stefan_Lang wrote:
not everyone uses NVIDIA
I know, I have one laptop that's using something from Intel - but everything else uses nVidia.
Stefan_Lang wrote:
a common standard for once
That may happen in 5 years time or so ;) Currently the capabilities of CUDA is still evolving rappidly - once standardization kicks in, things will probably move foreward at a somewhat slower rate.
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra
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I have been using Visual Studio 2008 for a long time, recently I made a project and I had (because the customer want to) to 2010, The fonts were terrible and I was a lot slower, (I have corei3 2 gb pc), can someone please tell me a reason to upgrade, please a good and logical reason. thanks in advance
If you are a C++ developer, there is at least one reason why you shouldn't upgrade to VS2012: the compiled code won't work on Windows XP (unless you use VC10 toolset, but then you loose most of the advantages of VC11). So if you have any clients / potential clients on XP (still very common, especially in enterprise environments), think twice before upgrading. For C#, the situation is a bit better: you can produce code for XP, but it will have to use .NET 4.0 not the new .NET 4.5, which doesn't work on Windows XP. See http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/compatibility[^] and http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/05/18/a-look-ahead-at-the-visual-studio-11-product-lineup-and-platform-support.aspx[^]
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VS2010 is/was a pig (at least for C++ projects). VS2012 looks to be a lot more faster and converted our VS2008 project more easily.
Watched code never compiles.
I do totally agree ! But What other IDEs are recommanded for developing on Windows