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It looks "cleaner" but the font is too small and faint. A heavier font would be perfect.
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The first impression is good. Have to browse the site a while to get a good opinion. But I'm glad you didn't use UPPERCASE texts for the menus. :-D
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Sorry the web site is a mess, metro style doesn't work, it makes it hard to find what you want and is hard on the eyes. Ok not as bad as VS 2012 - but definitly a step backwards. Ohh and its first time I have ever had an error page show up on Code project - picture of those funny brown bugs eating something (yes have seen it!). Guess will get use to it ovetime, one adjusts to bad things...... :(
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I like it, it goes well with my recently installed Windows 8. :)
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In a word: Yuck! :thumbsdown: Not my cup of tea at all.
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Awesome. It took a second find my way back to the lounge, but I like it.
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congrats! --- the only thing that sticks out, early on, is the button-red. red clashes with orange quite badly and as another poster said, it stands out as a warning. (but it's not hard to find, at least.) i'd go with a strong earth-tone. --- the other thing that stands out for me is that there is no left margin beside the vertical menu on the left. .container-content.fluid { margin: 0 0 0 20px; padding: 0 20px 0 0; }
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Overall, I like the design, some issues from my point-of-view though: 1. I don't like usability of the new forum - its hard to see which posts have been read previously, are popular etc. 2. It bugs the hell out of me to have the News section relegated right down the page - on the old site that tended to be my first port of call.
News items are going to appear in "Our Community" section at the top right to give them a little more love.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Your summer break paid off! Cool look, really clearly arranged the content... only the "latest articles" and similar 'grid-style' pages could become even more clearly by alternating the colors from entry to entry... just a suggestion :-)
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I think that this is one of the best Metro-ish implementations that I've seen and that is saying something because I despise Metro. It doesn't look all basic and Playskool-ish like everything else Metro. Good job! The only quibble that I have is a general quibble with Metro: why do all the icons and buttons, i.e. print, bookmark, etc. have to be flat, bland and colorless? Most phones and computers have good enough graphics cards to be able to handle things like that. Maybe it's just me, but that's one of the things that makes me feel depressed when looking at most Metro themes.
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Lack of borders makes it hard to read and tell between threads, at least in Chrome it is. Otherwise, looks great.
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Agreed.
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I like the metro concept, however, the site looks too bright for my tastes. The eyes adjust exposure (pupils dialate or shrink like aperture on camera) based overall tones which is extremely high now and I feel like it makes it harder to decipher darker colors (including plain old black text) across the page as result. This leads to more eye strain I think. I would recommend a muted texture like the one found visual studio 2010 so that the overall tones would be reduced. For example, if I place a dark colored folder across the bottom of the monitor, my eyes immediately begin to relax. Otherwise, I like the simplicity of the new look.
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I think that this is one of the best Metro-ish implementations that I've seen and that is saying something because I despise Metro. It doesn't look all basic and Playskool-ish like everything else Metro. Good job! The only quibble that I have is a general quibble with Metro: why do all the icons and buttons, i.e. print, bookmark, etc. have to be flat, bland and colorless? Most phones and computers have good enough graphics cards to be able to handle things like that. Maybe it's just me, but that's one of the things that makes me feel depressed when looking at most Metro themes.
greyseal96 wrote:
I think that this is one of the best Metro-ish implementations that I've seen and that is saying something because I despise Metro. It doesn't look all basic and Playskool-ish like everything else Metro. Good job!
The only quibble that I have is a general quibble with Metro: why do all the icons and buttons, i.e. print, bookmark, etc. have to be flat, bland and colorless? Most phones and computers have good enough graphics cards to be able to handle things like that. Maybe it's just me, but that's one of the things that makes me feel depressed when looking at most Metro themes.+1.
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Ugh ... so you caved-in to the pressure too, huh? Overall it does look OK though I agree with those who say there's way too much whitespace. I just don't understand why flat-and-colorless (icons, particularly) has been determined a "fashion". I suppose whoever saw the signs at the airport just ran amuck at Microsoft and it was all-of-a-sudden a fashion. Oh well. Considering you decided to go "Metro", as such it appears a nice implementation but I'm still among those who do not care for the style in general. Maybe I'll get used to it in time but I can't underestimate the relief my eyes get when I pan over to the rest of my desktop where there is some definition to the GUI.
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Nice work, Chris & CP team!
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I think that this is one of the best Metro-ish implementations that I've seen and that is saying something because I despise Metro. It doesn't look all basic and Playskool-ish like everything else Metro. Good job! The only quibble that I have is a general quibble with Metro: why do all the icons and buttons, i.e. print, bookmark, etc. have to be flat, bland and colorless? Most phones and computers have good enough graphics cards to be able to handle things like that. Maybe it's just me, but that's one of the things that makes me feel depressed when looking at most Metro themes.
The point is that the icons are meant to be indicators. They are not meant to be skeuomorphisms. The content should be the brightest, shiniest thing on the page, not the little glittery icons.
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The point is that the icons are meant to be indicators. They are not meant to be skeuomorphisms. The content should be the brightest, shiniest thing on the page, not the little glittery icons.
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Chris, I truly and honestly thank you for responding to me about this. Metro is something that to me seems pretty incomprehensible and ugly. I see, though, that there are a lot of people who feel that it is light and refreshing. So I really appreciate you taking the time to help explain this. Can I ask a couple more questions to try to understand the other side better? First, what is considered the content? Is it the text? Is it pictures? Where I'm coming from is that, to me, everything on the page is content. The text, the icons, the graphics, etc. are all content, the way that I see it. To me, it seems that Metro takes part of the content, makes it bland and depressing and then I'm left with a nearly blank sheet of paper with writing on it. To make it worse, it seems that a popular Metro ideal is a lack of borders and separation so everything on the page tends to run together. I think that perhaps, I and a number of other people either aren't understanding what the content is supposed to be so perhaps that's keeping us from understanding what the beauty of Metro is that many other people seem to see. Unfortunately, many in the Metro camp dismiss this view by saying something to the effect of "You're just a dinosaur..." so nobody understands either side. Can you help me to understand this? Regards, John
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Chris, I truly and honestly thank you for responding to me about this. Metro is something that to me seems pretty incomprehensible and ugly. I see, though, that there are a lot of people who feel that it is light and refreshing. So I really appreciate you taking the time to help explain this. Can I ask a couple more questions to try to understand the other side better? First, what is considered the content? Is it the text? Is it pictures? Where I'm coming from is that, to me, everything on the page is content. The text, the icons, the graphics, etc. are all content, the way that I see it. To me, it seems that Metro takes part of the content, makes it bland and depressing and then I'm left with a nearly blank sheet of paper with writing on it. To make it worse, it seems that a popular Metro ideal is a lack of borders and separation so everything on the page tends to run together. I think that perhaps, I and a number of other people either aren't understanding what the content is supposed to be so perhaps that's keeping us from understanding what the beauty of Metro is that many other people seem to see. Unfortunately, many in the Metro camp dismiss this view by saying something to the effect of "You're just a dinosaur..." so nobody understands either side. Can you help me to understand this? Regards, John
Content is what someone comes to the page to read. I don't come to an article to view the bookmark icon, or New message icon. I want to read the article and its images.
greyseal96 wrote:
it seems that a popular Metro ideal is a lack of borders and separation so everything on the page tends to run together.
And herein lies the big problem with many implementations. The second pillar of Metro is spacing. You don't surround everything in bright shiny boxes and flowery borders - they are distracting. You use space as your border. Or, in our case, when things are tight we have a very light border combined with less space, but with the overall goal being that the separator should separate the content, not try and out-glitter the content. Though, I have broken this rule in the forums with the bright orange separator bar. There's a lot of noise in a page full of messages so the quiet, reserved separators had to be a little noisier to be heard. The attitude of "you're too old" really bugs me. No, none of us are too old to get it, though many of us really are stuck in our ways. Remember that metro says nothing about which colours you choose, which is why we made sure we got as much crazy orange in as we could. It also doesn't say "make all your nav links big tiles". That's a touch interface that uses the metro design in its layout, but it is most definitely not the metro language.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP