Project management
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A whole lot of us crib about it. I am one of us. But, for a change, have you ever liked management? I am not referring to scenarios where you are prey for dimwits and you realize previous one was better.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
Yes. A good manager protects you from the layer(s) above and passes credit to the deserving. Bloody rare though.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Yes. A good manager protects you from the layer(s) above and passes credit to the deserving. Bloody rare though.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Was his name 42? Or Kryptonite?
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
Boringly, no - "Philip". Project manager at my first "real" company, and part of the reason I was there for over ten years. He was also a heavy drinker, which helped; had an expense account, which helped even more; and had four full-time girlfriends which gave us something to talk about when we were drinking the company money...
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Boringly, no - "Philip". Project manager at my first "real" company, and part of the reason I was there for over ten years. He was also a heavy drinker, which helped; had an expense account, which helped even more; and had four full-time girlfriends which gave us something to talk about when we were drinking the company money...
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Yes. A good manager protects you from the layer(s) above and passes credit to the deserving. Bloody rare though.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
Agreed. In all my years I have only ever worked with a fraction of PMs who inspired, listened, gave credit where it was due, protected from the many layers of upper management yet kept us informed of the overall scope and general overview of the project. In the UK it appears that they think that anyone can be a PM - whereas those who have to work with one know that isn't the case! :)
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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Agreed. In all my years I have only ever worked with a fraction of PMs who inspired, listened, gave credit where it was due, protected from the many layers of upper management yet kept us informed of the overall scope and general overview of the project. In the UK it appears that they think that anyone can be a PM - whereas those who have to work with one know that isn't the case! :)
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
Our PM leaves today, in fact he has just gone, and thank the lord for that sir. I have had a number of good managers, but whenever project managers get involved things have not gone well. I am never sure who they are working for as it were, apart from themselves, certainly it has never been the developers. Mostly concerned with getting projects delivered without blame arriving at the company rather than concerned with delivering them right.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
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Boringly, no - "Philip". Project manager at my first "real" company, and part of the reason I was there for over ten years. He was also a heavy drinker, which helped; had an expense account, which helped even more; and had four full-time girlfriends which gave us something to talk about when we were drinking the company money...
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Just recalled, is he from that Jim Carrey movie?
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
I'm reasonably sure he wasn't - but you could make a film of his love life!
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Boringly, no - "Philip". Project manager at my first "real" company, and part of the reason I was there for over ten years. He was also a heavy drinker, which helped; had an expense account, which helped even more; and had four full-time girlfriends which gave us something to talk about when we were drinking the company money...
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
OriginalGriff:
He was also a heavy drinker, which helped; had an expense account, which helped even more; and had four full-time girlfriends which gave us something to talk about when we were drinking the company money...
Sounds like lots of fun !!! :laugh:
Change is a pattern of life.
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Yes. A good manager protects you from the layer(s) above and passes credit to the deserving. Bloody rare though.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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A whole lot of us crib about it. I am one of us. But, for a change, have you ever liked management? I am not referring to scenarios where you are prey for dimwits and you realize previous one was better.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
Project management is an imaginative role. Everyone seems to imagine that it works.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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A whole lot of us crib about it. I am one of us. But, for a change, have you ever liked management? I am not referring to scenarios where you are prey for dimwits and you realize previous one was better.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
