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  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

    You need to register with a windows live id. You can use any email address for that ID. It doesn't need to be a hotmail.com or outlook.com or live.com address. I know, because I have two live ID's that use neither of the aforementioned domains.

    Marc Clifton wrote:

    eading somewhere that VS2012 Express DID support F#

    It does. I believe you need to download the Express version that is specifically for that language, but it is only for web development. And, note that there's an Express version for each language, not one all-inclusive version. /edit/Seems I'm a bit wrong there, that was the case originally, but not any longer./edit.

    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
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    Marc Clifton
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    ahmed zahmed wrote:

    but it is only for web development

    I wonder how they figured out that F# should be associated with web development. :sigh: Marc

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      ahmed zahmed wrote:

      but it is only for web development

      I wonder how they figured out that F# should be associated with web development. :sigh: Marc

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      F# should be associated with web development

      It's only available for free in the Express versions as a webdev language. You can do desktop development in F# with the paid version. :|

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        Marc Clifton wrote:

        F# should be associated with web development

        It's only available for free in the Express versions as a webdev language. You can do desktop development in F# with the paid version. :|

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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        ahmed zahmed wrote:

        You can do desktop development in F# with the paid version.

        So I am noticing. Well, I don't mind paying, it's just the product matrix is so fubar'd when all I want to do is try some stuff out, and NOT in a web environment. Marc

        Reverse Engineering Legacy Applications
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        • M Marc Clifton

          I just installed VS2012 EXPRESS and it's telling me the product will expire in 30 days. Registration is required for continued use of Microsoft Visual Studio Express 2012 for Windows Desktop. Is this because I installed the Windows Desktop version? WTF? [edit]Well, it's seems useless to me to even try out, because it doesn't seem to support F#. More WTF experience, because I was reading somewhere that VS2012 Express DID support F#, but maybe that was the web version. Gads, where is a friggin' product chart???[/edit] Marc

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          Chris Maunder
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          Though completely off-topic, it reminds me of all those software products that are free to download. Actually running them costs you money, though.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Though completely off-topic, it reminds me of all those software products that are free to download. Actually running them costs you money, though.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            it reminds me of all those software products that are free to download. Actually running them costs you money, though.

            Ain't marriage grand? :) Marc

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              I just installed VS2012 EXPRESS and it's telling me the product will expire in 30 days. Registration is required for continued use of Microsoft Visual Studio Express 2012 for Windows Desktop. Is this because I installed the Windows Desktop version? WTF? [edit]Well, it's seems useless to me to even try out, because it doesn't seem to support F#. More WTF experience, because I was reading somewhere that VS2012 Express DID support F#, but maybe that was the web version. Gads, where is a friggin' product chart???[/edit] Marc

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              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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              I feel for you. I wish posters would quit commenting that registering is free; it isn't. Free is free and anything else isn't. Of course I use pay versions so never really cared about the free version other than the fact it increases my level of competition.

              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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              • L Lost User

                That's not free, that's a requirement. A transaction, if you will.

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                Mark_Wallace
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                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                That's not free, that's a requirement. A transaction, if you will.

                How does "free" equate with "no communication"? There are no free offers where you don't have to either give your name or turn up at a specified location to retrieve the item. Get a cracked version in a torrent, if you prefer the "you have no right to know who you're giving your stuff to" kind of "free".

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  I just installed VS2012 EXPRESS and it's telling me the product will expire in 30 days. Registration is required for continued use of Microsoft Visual Studio Express 2012 for Windows Desktop. Is this because I installed the Windows Desktop version? WTF? [edit]Well, it's seems useless to me to even try out, because it doesn't seem to support F#. More WTF experience, because I was reading somewhere that VS2012 Express DID support F#, but maybe that was the web version. Gads, where is a friggin' product chart???[/edit] Marc

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                  devvvy
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                  really!? That sucks!

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                    I just installed VS2012 EXPRESS and it's telling me the product will expire in 30 days. Registration is required for continued use of Microsoft Visual Studio Express 2012 for Windows Desktop. Is this because I installed the Windows Desktop version? WTF? [edit]Well, it's seems useless to me to even try out, because it doesn't seem to support F#. More WTF experience, because I was reading somewhere that VS2012 Express DID support F#, but maybe that was the web version. Gads, where is a friggin' product chart???[/edit] Marc

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                    Lost User
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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    Registration is required for continued use

                    This has been true since VS Express 2005.

                    One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

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                    • L Lost User

                      That's not free, that's a requirement. A transaction, if you will.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      A transaction, if you will.

                      No money, no transaction. A requirement yes.

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                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                        That's not free, that's a requirement. A transaction, if you will.

                        How does "free" equate with "no communication"? There are no free offers where you don't have to either give your name or turn up at a specified location to retrieve the item. Get a cracked version in a torrent, if you prefer the "you have no right to know who you're giving your stuff to" kind of "free".

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                        There are no free offers where you don't have to either give your name or turn up at a specified location to retrieve the item.

                        I always get a slice of wurst from the butcher, without registering my name as a user there. Free means that there's no (NONE AT ALL) requirement to pass to gain something. It's not "free" if you have to kill someone to get it, nor is it when you have to enter personal information.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                        • S Slacker007

                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                          A transaction, if you will.

                          No money, no transaction. A requirement yes.

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                          Lost User
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                          Transactions aren't limited to money :)

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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