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  • A AspDotNetDev

    I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    You probably could have a bought a windows laptop with 32GB ram for a pittance and then changed it when the hard disk filled up and still have change from an Apple. (I'm not Apple-bashing here, just stating the bleeding obvious - Apple make great kit - it's just over priced).

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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      You probably could have a bought a windows laptop with 32GB ram for a pittance and then changed it when the hard disk filled up and still have change from an Apple. (I'm not Apple-bashing here, just stating the bleeding obvious - Apple make great kit - it's just over priced).

      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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      AspDotNetDev
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      Indeed. I'm sure I could build a desktop PC for under $1,000 (probably around $500) that has 32GB of RAM. Just annoyed that any individual program would have such an insane minimum requirement.

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      • A AspDotNetDev

        Indeed. I'm sure I could build a desktop PC for under $1,000 (probably around $500) that has 32GB of RAM. Just annoyed that any individual program would have such an insane minimum requirement.

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        AspDotNetDev wrote:

        Just annoyed that any individual program would have such an insane minimum requirement.

        Can't argue with that!

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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        • A AspDotNetDev

          Indeed. I'm sure I could build a desktop PC for under $1,000 (probably around $500) that has 32GB of RAM. Just annoyed that any individual program would have such an insane minimum requirement.

          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          Dan Neely
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          Well, when the VS2012 and Win8 teams inexplicably refused to pick up Intel's latest gauntlet someone had to step up...

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          • A AspDotNetDev

            I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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            Dan Neely
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            The more thing's change...

            Quote:

            My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks But it was obsolete before I opened the box You say you've had your desktop for over a week? Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique Your laptop is a month old? Well that's great If you could use a nice, heavy paperweight

            ... seems like you may find yourself gargling sooner than you expected[^]. X| :doh:

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              The more thing's change...

              Quote:

              My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks But it was obsolete before I opened the box You say you've had your desktop for over a week? Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique Your laptop is a month old? Well that's great If you could use a nice, heavy paperweight

              ... seems like you may find yourself gargling sooner than you expected[^]. X| :doh:

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              AspDotNetDev
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              If there were an Apple laptop that had more than 16GB, I totally would. :((

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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              • A AspDotNetDev

                I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                If only there were some way of upgrading the memory that didnt invole having a non iProduct?

                --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                  If only there were some way of upgrading the memory that didnt invole having a non iProduct?

                  --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                  AspDotNetDev
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                  If only. :((

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                  • A AspDotNetDev

                    I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                    Funny, I run a sharepoint server in a vm on my laptop that has 12 gig of ram. Yeah its not a speed demon but it does function for development purposes. EDIT: I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully.

                    Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                      AspDotNetDev wrote:

                      Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB.

                      Meh - I was developing SPS 2013 until a few months ago and my best machine had 12 GB. Now I am developing SAP HANA and my dev machine has 256 GB RAM (not a typo).

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                        AspDotNetDev wrote:

                        Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB.

                        Meh - I was developing SPS 2013 until a few months ago and my best machine had 12 GB. Now I am developing SAP HANA and my dev machine has 256 GB RAM (not a typo).

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                        AspDotNetDev
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                        Good to know! I hate when recommendations are listed as requirements.

                        Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                        my dev machine has 256 GB RAM

                        I just simultaneously puked and shit my pants in disbelief and amazement! :thumbsup:

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                          Funny, I run a sharepoint server in a vm on my laptop that has 12 gig of ram. Yeah its not a speed demon but it does function for development purposes. EDIT: I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully.

                          Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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                          AspDotNetDev
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                          gavindon wrote:

                          I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully

                          Awesome! I'll have to give it a try then. :thumbsup: By the way, what software do you use to host your VMs? I was thinking Hyper-V Client, but then I'd have to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and I'm not sure my Mac's gonna like that. Alternatively, I'll be looking into VMware Player or Workstation. Oh, FYI, I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

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                            Well, when the VS2012 and Win8 teams inexplicably refused to pick up Intel's latest gauntlet someone had to step up...

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            Dan Neely wrote:

                            Well, when the VS2012 and Win8 teams inexplicably refused to pick up Intel's latest gauntlet someone had to step up

                            Hi Dan, I find this a very intriguing statement; if you care to say a few more words about what you mean by this, I would really enjoy being able to read them. thanks, Bill

                            ~ Confused by Windows 8 ? This may help: [^] !

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                              gavindon wrote:

                              I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully

                              Awesome! I'll have to give it a try then. :thumbsup: By the way, what software do you use to host your VMs? I was thinking Hyper-V Client, but then I'd have to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and I'm not sure my Mac's gonna like that. Alternatively, I'll be looking into VMware Player or Workstation. Oh, FYI, I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

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                              VirtualBox

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                              • A AspDotNetDev

                                gavindon wrote:

                                I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully

                                Awesome! I'll have to give it a try then. :thumbsup: By the way, what software do you use to host your VMs? I was thinking Hyper-V Client, but then I'd have to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and I'm not sure my Mac's gonna like that. Alternatively, I'll be looking into VMware Player or Workstation. Oh, FYI, I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

                                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                gavindon
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                                vmware.. I'm running 2010, so 2013 I cant answer for. I bet it will work well enough to develop for though.

                                Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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                                  AspDotNetDev
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                                  Awesome, I'll try that one first (supposing the website becomes available tomorrow... it's down at the moment). I just watched this video and it looks pretty simple.

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

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                                    Lost User
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                                    So you have not yet run into that young and promising programmer who lectured you about the things you 'nowadays' don't have to think about anymore? Stuff like measuring the performance or managing memory?

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                                    • A AspDotNetDev

                                      I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

                                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                      Jorgen Andersson
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                                      I can think of many reasons not to buy a fruit. But not being able to run a sharepoint server on it, is not one of them. :)

                                      People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                                        I can think of many reasons not to buy a fruit. But not being able to run a sharepoint server on it, is not one of them. :)

                                        People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                                        Wait until I buy my next Rolls Royce to drive the potatoes to the market :)

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                                        • A AspDotNetDev

                                          gavindon wrote:

                                          I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully

                                          Awesome! I'll have to give it a try then. :thumbsup: By the way, what software do you use to host your VMs? I was thinking Hyper-V Client, but then I'd have to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and I'm not sure my Mac's gonna like that. Alternatively, I'll be looking into VMware Player or Workstation. Oh, FYI, I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

                                          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                          leppie
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                                          AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                          I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

                                          Nope, SP2010 works under 4GB, 8GB is better, but not enough if you need to do with reporting stuff too (those silly BI things). At least on a SSD, virtual memory is faster ;p

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