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16GB Ought To Be Enough For Anybody

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  • A AspDotNetDev

    Isn't it odd that phones are more powerful than desktops were in 1999? Hardware capability is what matters, not form factor. I suppose I could try running it on my home desktop (4GB) or my work desktop (8GB), but I think I'll stick with my laptop (16GB). I've very nearly got it running on Mac OS X in a VirtualBox VM that has Windows Server 2012 installed, but I'm getting some obscure error during the configuration wizard (which is technically after installation). Grumble grumble. I'm beginning to see why people dislike SharePoint so much.

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    wizardzz
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    It isn't necessarily about the speed of hardware improvements. Using your home or work desktop is still not using a server. I don't think any of our actual servers have as low as 16G of RAM.

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

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      Bill Ross Pax EDI
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      The suggested minimum RAM for a production install of Sharepoint is 50 GB. But this is not about software bloat but rather about levering a small investment in hardware to obtain blindingly fast business intelligence. In-memory column store database analysis is fantastic stuff. And hardware just gets cheaper and cheaper for the bang. I'm not griping.

      What I lack in youth I make up for in immaturity...

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      • A AspDotNetDev

        I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

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        Not sure if this will apply to you, but I've had to do SP development on my mac for several projects now. System specs: 1) using Sharepoint 2010 for development installed on a virtual running Windows 7 2) RAM allocation 4GB. Minimum required 2GB (I believe) recommened at least 4GB. 3) Virtual VMWareFusion (nothing special). To setup SharePoint 2010 on your local you'll need to do a few things, the installment guide + links to required resources can be found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee554869.aspx[^] Good luck.

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        • A AspDotNetDev

          gavindon wrote:

          I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully

          Awesome! I'll have to give it a try then. :thumbsup: By the way, what software do you use to host your VMs? I was thinking Hyper-V Client, but then I'd have to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and I'm not sure my Mac's gonna like that. Alternatively, I'll be looking into VMware Player or Workstation. Oh, FYI, I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

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          Jacinta Saggers
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          I have my Macbook Pro (late 2011) Running Win 8 on the Bootcamp partition fine.... So it is doable..

          Always learning.. To much to know

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          • A AspDotNetDev

            I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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            Why would you expect to run server software on a laptap?

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            • E exitender

              Not sure if this will apply to you, but I've had to do SP development on my mac for several projects now. System specs: 1) using Sharepoint 2010 for development installed on a virtual running Windows 7 2) RAM allocation 4GB. Minimum required 2GB (I believe) recommened at least 4GB. 3) Virtual VMWareFusion (nothing special). To setup SharePoint 2010 on your local you'll need to do a few things, the installment guide + links to required resources can be found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee554869.aspx[^] Good luck.

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              Since I'm working with SharePoint 2013, I'll be following this guide: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/fp179923(v=office.15).aspx I actually was doing those steps yesterday without referring to that guide, and I ran into an error I was unsure of how to solve. I guess I'll try again tonight by following that guide closely.

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              Virtual VMWareFusion

              I just did a search and apparently this will run Windows Server 2012, so that may work. However, SharePoint 2013 requries at least 4 processors (it didn't like when I tried with only 1 processor in VirtualBox), and my Mac only has 4 cores (VirtualBox seems to be able to create virtual cores, while VMware Fusion seems to take up those cores completely), so I'll have to see if I can get this working. I may have to do this from Boot Camp, as when I run Windows it seems to have 8 virtual cores.

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              • E exitender

                Not sure if this will apply to you, but I've had to do SP development on my mac for several projects now. System specs: 1) using Sharepoint 2010 for development installed on a virtual running Windows 7 2) RAM allocation 4GB. Minimum required 2GB (I believe) recommened at least 4GB. 3) Virtual VMWareFusion (nothing special). To setup SharePoint 2010 on your local you'll need to do a few things, the installment guide + links to required resources can be found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee554869.aspx[^] Good luck.

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                AspDotNetDev
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                Looks like I spoke too soon; it seems Mac OS is indeed running 8 CPU cores. VMware Fusion may work after all.

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                • M MichaelLuna

                  Why would you expect to run server software on a laptap?

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                  AspDotNetDev
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                  Because I'm a developer and I have a fairly capable laptop. Not capable enough, according to the minimum "requirements". Luckily, though, it seems these requirements are actually just recommendations (except for the CPU cores... you actually do need 4 or the setup will fail).

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                  • J Jacinta Saggers

                    I have my Macbook Pro (late 2011) Running Win 8 on the Bootcamp partition fine.... So it is doable..

                    Always learning.. To much to know

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                    AspDotNetDev
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                    Nice, I may give that a try then. This thread seemed to indicate there were some issues (and Boot Camp doesn't seem to explicitly support Windows 8 yet, though as you say it appears to work anyway). Out of curiosity, did you upgrade your Win7 Boot Camp to Windows 8, or do you do a fresh Boot Camp install with Windows 8?

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                      Nice, I may give that a try then. This thread seemed to indicate there were some issues (and Boot Camp doesn't seem to explicitly support Windows 8 yet, though as you say it appears to work anyway). Out of curiosity, did you upgrade your Win7 Boot Camp to Windows 8, or do you do a fresh Boot Camp install with Windows 8?

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                      Jacinta Saggers
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                      Did a fresh install, including creating the partition with the Mac Tools. Just used the Windows 8 DVD (Burnt a copy from the ISO), instead of the Windows 7 one. Mac Tools seem to validate using the 8 DVD as well, so was straight forward.

                      Always learning.. To much to know

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                      • J Jacinta Saggers

                        Did a fresh install, including creating the partition with the Mac Tools. Just used the Windows 8 DVD (Burnt a copy from the ISO), instead of the Windows 7 one. Mac Tools seem to validate using the 8 DVD as well, so was straight forward.

                        Always learning.. To much to know

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                        Thanks, good to know. I actually already deleted my Windows 7 partition and have less than a minute left on the Windows 8 ISO download. I'll soon see for myself. :)

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                          ... seems like you may find yourself gargling sooner than you expected[^]. X| :doh:

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                          Dan Neely wrote:

                          The more thing's change

                          Shouldn't that be "The Moore thing's changed"? :laugh:

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