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Why wouldn't a technocracy work?

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  • L Lost User

    "In a technocracy, decision makers would be selected based upon how knowledgeable and skillful they are in their field." Who does the selecting? Whatever form of government you use power corrupts, and those with the power eventually become concerned with nothing more than keeping it. You might as well form a government of village idiots. The Civil Service actually does everything, and however you choose the public face of the government the country will run as before.

    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    Searches frantically for the 5 button but gets really pissed off to find it's gone. :)

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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

      The U.S. wasn't supposed to be a democracy, maybe the flaw is that it is becoming more democratized? The Civil War and the Direct Election of Senators were the big facilitators but historical there are enumerable events that all moved towards a massive federal government elected by a "democracy". But back to your question. Have you never had an argument with another tech person where your opinion was not chosen in favor of another, who was technically inferior but liked better by the boss or had more seniority?

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

      But back to your question. Have you never had an argument with another tech person where your opinion was not chosen in favor of another, who was technically inferior but liked better by the boss or had more seniority?

      I think that's why Hilter invaded Poland.

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        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        But back to your question. Have you never had an argument with another tech person where your opinion was not chosen in favor of another, who was technically inferior but liked better by the boss or had more seniority?

        I think that's why Hilter invaded Poland.

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        Really, Godwin's Law already?

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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        • L Lost User

          We'd have problems naming national parks, especially those with compound names. yellowStone YellowStone Yellowstone park_YellowStone

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          Parks shall henceforth be identified by GUIDs: Yellowstone => {c4afa8ab-3f75-47a7-bd8e-668250abd894} Yosemite => {2297c9bc-e263-4a6a-9111-5e959e6a27d3} ...

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          • L Lost User

            We'd have problems naming national parks, especially those with compound names. yellowStone YellowStone Yellowstone park_YellowStone

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            CYellowStone* lpprkYellowStone;

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            • L Lost User

              Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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              We'd still argue over where to place the tax brackets -- New line? Same line? Indented?

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                Really, Godwin's Law already?

                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                wizardzz
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                Yeah, without voting on I gave it a go. You know who also didn't respect votes? The Nazi's!

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  We'd still argue over where to place the tax brackets -- New line? Same line? Indented?

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                  Lost User
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                  :thumbsup:

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                  • W wizardzz

                    Yeah, without voting on I gave it a go. You know who also didn't respect votes? The Nazi's!

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                    :thumbsup:

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                    • L Lost User

                      "In a technocracy, decision makers would be selected based upon how knowledgeable and skillful they are in their field." Who does the selecting? Whatever form of government you use power corrupts, and those with the power eventually become concerned with nothing more than keeping it. You might as well form a government of village idiots. The Civil Service actually does everything, and however you choose the public face of the government the country will run as before.

                      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                      Lost User
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                      ChrisElston wrote:

                      You might as well form a government of village idiots

                      An Idiocracy?

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                      • W wizardzz

                        Yeah, without voting on I gave it a go. You know who also didn't respect votes? The Nazi's!

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                        Lost User
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                        wizardzz wrote:

                        You know who also didn't respect votes? The Nazi's!

                        Wrong. Anybody who agreed could remain seated while those who disagreed lined up at the wall behind the house. Perfect democracy.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                          Sane decisions would be made. The People won't tolerate that sort of nonsense.

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                          • L Lost User

                            Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                            Bert Mitton
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                            Here in the US we've already tried legislating using a variant of Schrodinger's cat. "You have to pass the law to find out what's in it" If only it was a laughing matter. :((

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                            • W wizardzz

                              Yeah, without voting on I gave it a go. You know who also didn't respect votes? The Nazi's!

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                              Andrew Rissing
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                              I smell a 185 coming... 185 Technocratic politicians walk into a bar!

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                We'd still argue over where to place the tax brackets -- New line? Same line? Indented?

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                                Andrew Rissing
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                                +5 :thumbsup:

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                                • C Colin Mullikin

                                  MehGerbil wrote:

                                  Senator 1: ... Senator 2:

                                  What happened to the first Senator in this conversation... ;P

                                  The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                  Corporal Agarn
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                                  Where is the 5 when you need it?:thumbsup:

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                                    Corporal Agarn
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                                    Does this post break rule #4?

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                                    • C Corporal Agarn

                                      Does this post break rule #4?

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                                      I don't think so[^] :-D

                                      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                                        Does this post break rule #4?

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                                        Jorgen Andersson
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                                        How about rule 34?

                                        People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          I don't think so[^] :-D

                                          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                                          Corporal Agarn
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                                          You were saying? I sort of zoned out there....

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