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Why wouldn't a technocracy work?

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  • L Lost User

    Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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    bwallan
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    Right off, I don't think democracy is failing. It is simply being a "democracy"... I'd vote for a benevolent dictatorship as the best form of government; however, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely! Let's stay with something we can all vote on and complain about :cool:

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    • L Lost User

      We'd have endless arguments over whether the list of constitutional amendements should begin with a 1 or a 0. Senator 1: I move that we adopt amendment 1 protecting the rights of Linux users to date. Senator 2: Do you mean the first amendment or the second amendment?

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      KP Lee
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      Isn't that obvious? Negative amendements would begin with 1 and positive amendements would begin with 0.

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        Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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        KP Lee
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        Well, the biggest problem I can see is that it would be ruled by an elite group that wouldn't want any more people involved in the policies that would be imposed. With democracy, along with the idiots who never should have been elected in the first place, you get the occasional intelligent politician along with the dashed hope of getting logical rules in government.

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        • F Florin Jurcovici

          Please please please Unix geeks! They’d create a platform which is stable, reliable and secure, and just let specialists collaborate via simple yet powerful mechanisms (a.k.a. pipes) to solve actual government issues. That’d be the best government ever.

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          User 3760773
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          Until a bunch of them decided their ideas were technically superior and decided to fork the government.

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          • C Caleb Holt

            The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
            Winston Churchill

            The best argument against Technocracy is 2 seconds in the presence of an internet troll!

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            JSOP doesn't need two seconds.

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            • L Lost User

              Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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              Marc Clifton
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              First, technology does not solve problems. It facilitates solutions which are created by people (as are many of the problems, of course.) Second: the scientific method to solving social problems Science is in not the appropriate "technology" to solve social problems. People are. You can't solve social problems with Seldon-esque psycho-history and the like. Marc

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              • L Lost User

                Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                Nick Polyak
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                As long the the software engineers are at the very top ... I agree. The government by software engineers for software engineers:)

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  Really, Godwin's Law already?

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                  Rob Graham
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                  :thumbsup:

                  "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                  • K KP Lee

                    Well, the biggest problem I can see is that it would be ruled by an elite group that wouldn't want any more people involved in the policies that would be imposed. With democracy, along with the idiots who never should have been elected in the first place, you get the occasional intelligent politician along with the dashed hope of getting logical rules in government.

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                    Rob Graham
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                    KP Lee wrote:

                    intelligent politician

                    I think that is the best example of an oxymoron I have ever seen...

                    "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                    • R Rob Graham

                      KP Lee wrote:

                      intelligent politician

                      I think that is the best example of an oxymoron I have ever seen...

                      "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                      KP Lee
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                      I did say “occasional”. And they get to work with people who aren't intelligent, effectively negating their effectiveness. I did enjoy your reply.

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                      • L Lost User

                        Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                        Pavel Y Kotov
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                        I really wait for mathematicians and programmers to start writing laws. The rules are very ambiguous - you can see this even if you're not a lawyer. Maybe the lawyers make such rules for themselves, maybe it's a sincere stupidity. Could programmers rewrite laws using some formal language? Then we could use some algorithms to find all ambiguities and inconsistencies. And above all, we could always know what this law means!

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                        • L Lost User

                          Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                          Matthew Graybosch
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                          Aside from that the people running the technocracy are likely to still be human, and thus prone to humanity's usual defects?

                          When posting here, I do not represent anybody but myself.

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