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It's not guns that kill people, it's stoopid that does.

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    Pete OHanlon
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    No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

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      No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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      Extreme rage is only momentary. May be, if he had not a gun, his anger would have come down in few minutes and that poor girl might not have been killed shot at and injured. And no, I'm not an advocate of gun control, it's just that we have so many stupid people than sensible ones.

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        No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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        But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it. When Jerry Sadowitz got punched on stage at the Just For Laughs festival in Montreal (before he outed Jimmy Savile and was no longer allowed on TV) I remember the American comedians mocking the Canadians for their lack of guns and having to walk all the way to the stage just to punch someone. Said more people would get punched, but by the time the angry person had made their way to the stage they'd forgotten what they were angry about or calmed down. In the US all you'd have to do was stand up, shoot, sit down and wait for the next guy.

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          No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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          Is it possible to beat someone to death with a bottle of Prozac? That was probably the nearest thing to this idiot when he committed the crime. If not the Prozac he probably had a bottle of some kind of liquor that he was washing the pills down with and that would have done it. Just saying, you just can't fix stoopid!

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            No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon.

            I've always hated that argument. In this situation it may be true, but when I heard it being made about the Aurora shootings, for example, I just thought, if he didn't have guns, would he have killed those twelve people by throwing fucking potatoes at them?

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              Extreme rage is only momentary. May be, if he had not a gun, his anger would have come down in few minutes and that poor girl might not have been killed shot at and injured. And no, I'm not an advocate of gun control, it's just that we have so many stupid people than sensible ones.

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              Reading the story, this was not momentary rage. This was an argument that brewed over several hours, first in person, then in text messages, and so on. This guy got so worked up over the disagreement that he sat with a gun and waited for her to check on him. Less stupid, more anger management issues with this one. If he hadn't had a gun, he would have struck her with something else.

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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon.

                I've always hated that argument. In this situation it may be true, but when I heard it being made about the Aurora shootings, for example, I just thought, if he didn't have guns, would he have killed those twelve people by throwing fucking potatoes at them?

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                It doesn't make the argument any less valid by trivialising it and using potatoes in it's place. How about if you'd substituted bricks in there instead?

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                  Extreme rage is only momentary. May be, if he had not a gun, his anger would have come down in few minutes and that poor girl might not have been killed shot at and injured. And no, I'm not an advocate of gun control, it's just that we have so many stupid people than sensible ones.

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                  Shameel wrote:

                  that poor girl might not have been killed.

                  She wasn't killed. She's in stable condition but with serious injuries. Marc

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                    Extreme rage is only momentary. May be, if he had not a gun, his anger would have come down in few minutes and that poor girl might not have been killed shot at and injured. And no, I'm not an advocate of gun control, it's just that we have so many stupid people than sensible ones.

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                    girlfriend now has a shattered rib as well as a pierced lung and diaphragm. She’s currently in stable condition

                    "Dead" is a pretty stable condition, but they probably would have used different words.

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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon.

                      I've always hated that argument. In this situation it may be true, but when I heard it being made about the Aurora shootings, for example, I just thought, if he didn't have guns, would he have killed those twelve people by throwing fucking potatoes at them?

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                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                      I've always hated that argument.

                      Agreed. To me, it obfuscates the more important issues of why this person has such a warped sense of reality that he would become violent even discussing the topic. Marc

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                        Is it possible to beat someone to death with a bottle of Prozac? That was probably the nearest thing to this idiot when he committed the crime. If not the Prozac he probably had a bottle of some kind of liquor that he was washing the pills down with and that would have done it. Just saying, you just can't fix stoopid!

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                        Mike Hankey wrote:

                        Just saying, you just can't fix stoopid!

                        Yes you can. With a gun. :laugh:

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                          It doesn't make the argument any less valid by trivialising it and using potatoes in it's place. How about if you'd substituted bricks in there instead?

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                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          It doesn't make the argument any less valid by trivialising it and using potatoes in it's place.

                          I'm genuinely curious. What could he have used that would even approach a firearm?

                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          How about if you'd substituted bricks in there instead?

                          OK. Let's suppose he took bricks in there. Would twelve people have been killed and fifty-eight injured? Would he have used a wheelbarrow, or just carried three or four in his arms?

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                            No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

                            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control.

                            So what is this?

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                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              It doesn't make the argument any less valid by trivialising it and using potatoes in it's place.

                              I'm genuinely curious. What could he have used that would even approach a firearm?

                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              How about if you'd substituted bricks in there instead?

                              OK. Let's suppose he took bricks in there. Would twelve people have been killed and fifty-eight injured? Would he have used a wheelbarrow, or just carried three or four in his arms?

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                              Whether one or twelve doesn't matter - any loss of life is unconscionable. And you only need one heavy object to injure or kill.

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                                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control.

                                So what is this?

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                                It's the highlighting of an idiot who shot his girlfriend over a TV show.

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                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control.

                                  So what is this?

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                                  It was meant to be a link to how stupid some people get - arguing over the reality (or not) of a show about Zombies. Sadly, I failed miserably.

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                                    It was meant to be a link to how stupid some people get - arguing over the reality (or not) of a show about Zombies. Sadly, I failed miserably.

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                                    Nice try, but when guns are involved there will be a debate. It's the law.

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                                      Whether one or twelve doesn't matter - any loss of life is unconscionable. And you only need one heavy object to injure or kill.

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                                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                      Whether one or twelve doesn't matter - any loss of life is unconscionable. And you only need one heavy object to injure or kill.

                                      I agree that any loss of life is unconscionable, but I certainly don't agree that it doesn't matter whether one person is murdered or twelve.

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                                        Nice try, but when guns are involved there will be a debate. It's the law.

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        I know. What can I say? I had my stupid gene engaged.

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                                          But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it. When Jerry Sadowitz got punched on stage at the Just For Laughs festival in Montreal (before he outed Jimmy Savile and was no longer allowed on TV) I remember the American comedians mocking the Canadians for their lack of guns and having to walk all the way to the stage just to punch someone. Said more people would get punched, but by the time the angry person had made their way to the stage they'd forgotten what they were angry about or calmed down. In the US all you'd have to do was stand up, shoot, sit down and wait for the next guy.

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                                          ChrisElston wrote:

                                          In the US all you'd have to do was stand up, shoot, sit down and wait for the next guy.

                                          Is that why the comedy around here is so dead. No wait I blame Saturday Night Live and Letterman. :doh:

                                          It was broke, so I fixed it.

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