It's not guns that kill people, it's stoopid that does.
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Whether one or twelve doesn't matter - any loss of life is unconscionable. And you only need one heavy object to injure or kill.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Whether one or twelve doesn't matter - any loss of life is unconscionable. And you only need one heavy object to injure or kill.
I agree that any loss of life is unconscionable, but I certainly don't agree that it doesn't matter whether one person is murdered or twelve.
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I know. What can I say? I had my stupid gene engaged.
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But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it. When Jerry Sadowitz got punched on stage at the Just For Laughs festival in Montreal (before he outed Jimmy Savile and was no longer allowed on TV) I remember the American comedians mocking the Canadians for their lack of guns and having to walk all the way to the stage just to punch someone. Said more people would get punched, but by the time the angry person had made their way to the stage they'd forgotten what they were angry about or calmed down. In the US all you'd have to do was stand up, shoot, sit down and wait for the next guy.
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ChrisElston wrote:
In the US all you'd have to do was stand up, shoot, sit down and wait for the next guy.
Is that why the comedy around here is so dead. No wait I blame Saturday Night Live and Letterman. :doh:
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No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
or... stupid watches idiot box. Well the show went downhill in this season, I hope they cancel/end it before it becomes soap. (Hey, no one is planning to shot me right? RIGHT!?)
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
or... stupid watches idiot box. Well the show went downhill in this season, I hope they cancel/end it before it becomes soap. (Hey, no one is planning to shot me right? RIGHT!?)
I watched the first series and enjoyed it. From what I gather, it went downhill from there.
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Mike Hankey wrote:
Just saying, you just can't fix stoopid!
Yes you can. With a gun. :laugh:
Chris C-B wrote:
Yes you can. With a gun.
I suppose that's true, but you can make them a lot less harmful if you heavily sedate them.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon.
I've always hated that argument. In this situation it may be true, but when I heard it being made about the Aurora shootings, for example, I just thought, if he didn't have guns, would he have killed those twelve people by throwing fucking potatoes at them?
I wish I could upvote that. Not the shootings, the potatoes.
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Whether one or twelve doesn't matter - any loss of life is unconscionable. And you only need one heavy object to injure or kill.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Whether one or twelve doesn't matter - any loss of life is unconscionable.
Sorry but that's rubbish. There is certainly a difference between killing 12 people and killing 1, and if you can change a 12 into a 1 then that's certainly worthwhile.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Whether one or twelve doesn't matter - any loss of life is unconscionable.
Sorry but that's rubbish. There is certainly a difference between killing 12 people and killing 1, and if you can change a 12 into a 1 then that's certainly worthwhile.
So if I go out and kill 1 it's less reprehensible than killing 12? I'm sorry, but you are talking complete bollocks there and unfortunately this thread has gone completely off the track of saying how stupid it is to get that worked up over a piece of prime time schlock TV.
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I watched the first series and enjoyed it. From what I gather, it went downhill from there.
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Agree, once they abandoned following the comic books, the quality suffered. but still season 2 has some creative writing. but in season 3, they ran out of ideas.
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No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
stupid watches TV
You may have cause and effect reversed. :shrug:
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But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it. When Jerry Sadowitz got punched on stage at the Just For Laughs festival in Montreal (before he outed Jimmy Savile and was no longer allowed on TV) I remember the American comedians mocking the Canadians for their lack of guns and having to walk all the way to the stage just to punch someone. Said more people would get punched, but by the time the angry person had made their way to the stage they'd forgotten what they were angry about or calmed down. In the US all you'd have to do was stand up, shoot, sit down and wait for the next guy.
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ChrisElston wrote:
But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it.
Once your in a murdering mood everything becomes a weapon. The time two kids tried to mug me, I was holding an mp3-player.
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ChrisElston wrote:
In the US all you'd have to do was stand up, shoot, sit down and wait for the next guy.
Is that why the comedy around here is so dead. No wait I blame Saturday Night Live and Letterman. :doh:
It was broke, so I fixed it.
S Houghtelin wrote:
No wait I blame Saturday Night Live and Letterman Jay Leno.
FTFY :thumbsup:
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ChrisElston wrote:
But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it.
Once your in a murdering mood everything becomes a weapon. The time two kids tried to mug me, I was holding an mp3-player.
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It takes a lot longer to beat someone to death with an mp3-player than it does to shoot them dead though. I'm fairly certain I'd get tired and give up long before death occurred.
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No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
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If you read our local news papers, you'll disagree with yourself. Out of 10 murder attempts by knife or sharp weapons, at least 3-4 recover through first aid and immediate admission into ICU. And when you look into most cases, they say "The victim bled to death". Which means the victim has been unattended for hours after the attack. Only few cases end in immediate death. Like a stab straight to the heart, slitting the throat. etc. But all these can never draw parallel to a head shot. Am I right?
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
or... stupid watches idiot box. Well the show went downhill in this season, I hope they cancel/end it before it becomes soap. (Hey, no one is planning to shot me right? RIGHT!?)
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
stupid watches TV
You may have cause and effect reversed. :shrug:
:laugh: I'll grant you that.
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No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
It doesn't make the argument any less valid by trivialising it and using potatoes in it's place.
I'm genuinely curious. What could he have used that would even approach a firearm?
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
How about if you'd substituted bricks in there instead?
OK. Let's suppose he took bricks in there. Would twelve people have been killed and fifty-eight injured? Would he have used a wheelbarrow, or just carried three or four in his arms?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
What could he have used that would even approach a firearm?
How about some of the homemade grenades he booby-trapped his apartment with? He had over 30 of them in his apartment wired up to traps. What if he walked in and lobbed a half dozen grenades into the crowd. More than 12 people would have died. What's your argument now? How about we ban all of the items that could possibly be used to make explosive devices. There goes all modern technology, cleaning supplies, gardening supplies, gasoline/diesel. If people want to kill, they will find a way, regardless of how well regulated anything is.
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No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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