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Arduino, Netduino, RaspberryPi, other?

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  • C Casey Sheridan

    I know it's not what you're asking but I would recommend the Hackberry A10[^]

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    _beauw_
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    I was thinking along the same lines after I read the question. I'm not an expert at Arduinos, but this does not seem like a typical Arduino application.

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      Mike Baldini wrote:

      So, what would you use?

      Can't tell, until I had a chance to try them all. The Pi is happy with a few penlites, but the GPIO-port is beyond me. If you want to interface with hardware, the arduino probably has more options in terms of available kits and breadboards. Cool thing about the Pi is the price; then again, there was this "slight" waiting-period..

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      Mike Baldini
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      I have been wanting an Arduino for quite a long time. But then the pi and netduino come out (both with more processing power) and just make it harder to decide. The more options i get, the harder it is to choose. That trait pisses my wife off all the time ;P

      "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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      • L Lurker1315

        BeagleBone might be good

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        Mike Baldini
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        It looks like the beaglebone has to be coded using Cloud9 and supports just node.js right? Never played with that before. Might be better for me to stay with plain java or c/c++ in eclipse. The capabilities of the board look pretty promising though.

        "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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        • _ _beauw_

          I was thinking along the same lines after I read the question. I'm not an expert at Arduinos, but this does not seem like a typical Arduino application.

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          Mike Baldini
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          Yea not really typical. It is going to replace close to $500 in gauges ($80/gauge is just insane). This entire car is meant to be a complete home-built system. I have already built the intake manifold out of flat stock (I even bent the runners out of flat plate), welded in the sub-frame connectors, and am in the process of fabricating the turbo manifolds, intercooler, charge piping, and carb hat. But I do not want to stop at just the mechanical aspects, I even want the electronics to be 'home brew' and impressive.

          "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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          • M Mike Baldini

            Yea not really typical. It is going to replace close to $500 in gauges ($80/gauge is just insane). This entire car is meant to be a complete home-built system. I have already built the intake manifold out of flat stock (I even bent the runners out of flat plate), welded in the sub-frame connectors, and am in the process of fabricating the turbo manifolds, intercooler, charge piping, and carb hat. But I do not want to stop at just the mechanical aspects, I even want the electronics to be 'home brew' and impressive.

            "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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            _beauw_
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            So you're actually planning to blow into the carb, not suck through it , right? (I just ask out of curiosity. It doesn't affect the instrumentation much.)

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              So you're actually planning to blow into the carb, not suck through it , right? (I just ask out of curiosity. It doesn't affect the instrumentation much.)

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              Mike Baldini
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              yes because sucking through the carb with that much intercooler piping would be a pipe bomb just waiting for the first backfire :laugh:. There is actually a shop in the San Bernardino area that is world renown for building carburetors that perform very well under boost. So I am having them perform the conversion on my Barry Grant Claw 750.

              "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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              • M Mike Baldini

                oh wow. That board is pretty bad ass. Audio over HDMI, accelerometer, decoding full HD, and supports android (haha maybe I could get Netflix running on it :laugh: ). Thanks for making the choice even harder for me :laugh:

                "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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                Casey Sheridan
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                Mike Baldini wrote:

                Thanks for making the choice even harder for me

                You are very welcome! :laugh:

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                • M Mike Baldini

                  hey i said 'other' :-D Thanks for the info, i am looking at it now.

                  "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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                  Casey Sheridan
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                  Mike Baldini wrote:

                  i said 'other'

                  You're right. I missed that. :-\

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                  • M Mike Baldini

                    It looks like the beaglebone has to be coded using Cloud9 and supports just node.js right? Never played with that before. Might be better for me to stay with plain java or c/c++ in eclipse. The capabilities of the board look pretty promising though.

                    "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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                    Lurker1315
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                    whaa~~ I thought beaglebone runs linux, you use whatever you are comfortable with on linux.

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                    • M Mike Baldini

                      I have been wanting an Arduino for quite a long time. But then the pi and netduino come out (both with more processing power) and just make it harder to decide. The more options i get, the harder it is to choose. That trait pisses my wife off all the time ;P

                      "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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                      I would not recommend using netduino though I mean the best part about writing code on microcontrollers is the clear and concise,linear operation, what's the point of making it in .net. Actually, if you want to use an Android, check out the IOIO board, I don't know if they've come up with the bluetooth version yet, but that might be interesting

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                      • M Mike Baldini

                        Ok, so... I have a 1974 Chevy Nova with an 8.1L GEN 7 big block and a custom twin turbo system that I am still in the process of fabricating (using two T67 turbos). Clickety Click for Pics I built a custom intake manifold for this motor (since NOBODY makes aftermarket parts for it) that accepts a carburetor. But the motor has a lot of interesting and useful sensors, such as a Crank Angle Sensor, Knock Sensor, and Oil Condition sensor. I want to integrate a small touch screen unit into the dash, where I can display different sets of data, such as Acceleration, Boost pressure, fuel pressure, knock count, oil condition, etc. I also want to be able to do data logging, and would like to be able to control the unit via my android phone. Oh, and I also need it to have audio outputs because it would essentially be replacing the radio (and would use a USB radio receiver such as this). The RaspberryPi seems to have the edge when it comes performance, it has a standard RCA style video out along with an HDMI output (does that HDMI support audio as well???). But I do not know enough about the Arduino/Netduino to rule them out. So, what would you use?

                        Senior Software Engineer Automotive Hacker

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                        I admire the fact that you're building your own intake system, but I gotta ask - why use an engine that you can't get parts for, and why a big block? Benefits of using a small block: 0) HP would be comparable to pretty much any big block you could build. 1) The assembled engine would be up to 30% lighter. 2) A small block revs faster and higher, making more power sooner. 3) Since it's a ubiquitous platform, your induction choices are more numerous.

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                        • M Mike Baldini

                          Ok, so... I have a 1974 Chevy Nova with an 8.1L GEN 7 big block and a custom twin turbo system that I am still in the process of fabricating (using two T67 turbos). Clickety Click for Pics I built a custom intake manifold for this motor (since NOBODY makes aftermarket parts for it) that accepts a carburetor. But the motor has a lot of interesting and useful sensors, such as a Crank Angle Sensor, Knock Sensor, and Oil Condition sensor. I want to integrate a small touch screen unit into the dash, where I can display different sets of data, such as Acceleration, Boost pressure, fuel pressure, knock count, oil condition, etc. I also want to be able to do data logging, and would like to be able to control the unit via my android phone. Oh, and I also need it to have audio outputs because it would essentially be replacing the radio (and would use a USB radio receiver such as this). The RaspberryPi seems to have the edge when it comes performance, it has a standard RCA style video out along with an HDMI output (does that HDMI support audio as well???). But I do not know enough about the Arduino/Netduino to rule them out. So, what would you use?

                          Senior Software Engineer Automotive Hacker

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                          wizardzz
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                          Do you have a facebook, or website, dedicated to just the car? I'd like to follow your progress (my brother is a car tuner and I grew up in a gearhead family) but I don't want to friend you on facebook, as you'll get annoyed by my attempts at humor in my status updates.

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                            whaa~~ I thought beaglebone runs linux, you use whatever you are comfortable with on linux.

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                            Mike Baldini
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                            Ah... I guess I mis-interpreted their website.

                            "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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                              I would not recommend using netduino though I mean the best part about writing code on microcontrollers is the clear and concise,linear operation, what's the point of making it in .net. Actually, if you want to use an Android, check out the IOIO board, I don't know if they've come up with the bluetooth version yet, but that might be interesting

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                              Mike Baldini
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                              The bluetooth would be nice. Because I would actually like to integrate some accelerometer and GPS sensors into it for data logging, and would like to transfer it from that to the phone. Also since I am replacing the radio with it, the bluetooth would be nice way to play music from the phone.

                              "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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                                I admire the fact that you're building your own intake system, but I gotta ask - why use an engine that you can't get parts for, and why a big block? Benefits of using a small block: 0) HP would be comparable to pretty much any big block you could build. 1) The assembled engine would be up to 30% lighter. 2) A small block revs faster and higher, making more power sooner. 3) Since it's a ubiquitous platform, your induction choices are more numerous.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                Mike Baldini
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                                Well, because I got the motor and trans for free from my uncle. But this motor is actually 345 hp and 480 ft/lbs bone stock. And I am making the car for fun, I dont plan on racing it. And having a ton of torque throughout the RPM range is actually a lot more fun than more horsepower at the top end. For example my built 85 corvette was more fun to drive than my 99 corvette, despite having 50 hp less... but it could smoke the tires by just smashing the pedal @ 2,000 RPM in 2nd gear, whereas the 99 will not do it at all. And the 85 vette had full Z56 suspension and 275 Nitto NT05R tires, whereas the 99 is bone stock (including the run-flat tires). Also, the main reason? Nobody has this motor in a muscle car. I love going to shows with my 56 belair, and it gets a lot of attention... even though its just a built 350 with a tremec t56 6-speed. And through the years I have only seen 2 turbocharged small/big block motors, and never once have I seen this motor. So the people will be drawn in by the two big T67 turbos, and will be find another treat when they notice the valve covers are only 1" tall. :)

                                "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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                                • W wizardzz

                                  Do you have a facebook, or website, dedicated to just the car? I'd like to follow your progress (my brother is a car tuner and I grew up in a gearhead family) but I don't want to friend you on facebook, as you'll get annoyed by my attempts at humor in my status updates.

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                                  Mike Baldini
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                                  Lol unfortunately no I just made the album public. But you could friend me on facebook if you want. You might actually grow tired of my seemingly endless failed attempts at humor. :laugh:

                                  "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Albert Einstein

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