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  • S Septimus Hedgehog

    Just read this[^] on Auntie. Terrible news.

    "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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    Ravi Bhavnani
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    Insanity. :( /ravi

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    • S Septimus Hedgehog

      Just read this[^] on Auntie. Terrible news.

      "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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      AspDotNetDev
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      That is terrible. However, story aside...

      Quote:

      scores of cars surrounding the area

      That's the first time I've seen "scores" used in a news story (at least, with that usage). Usually, they'd go with "tens" or "dozens".

      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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        That is terrible. However, story aside...

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        scores of cars surrounding the area

        That's the first time I've seen "scores" used in a news story (at least, with that usage). Usually, they'd go with "tens" or "dozens".

        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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        Colin Mullikin
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        Scores of officers at the scene carried out a full search of the site

        They used it twice.

        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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          Scores of officers at the scene carried out a full search of the site

          They used it twice.

          The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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          AspDotNetDev
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          Thanks for settling the scores. :)

          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          • S Septimus Hedgehog

            Just read this[^] on Auntie. Terrible news.

            "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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            realJSOP
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            I was just on a gun forum, and one of the guys there knows someone that has kids in that school who doesn't know yet if their kids are okay. The sad part is that there is no foolproof method for keeping kids safe in schools, short of having every student and teacher remote-in from home, essentially turning the school into a massive data center. At that point, kids won't be able to learn social interaction skills *at all*, which is part of what makes schools so valuable.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              I was just on a gun forum, and one of the guys there knows someone that has kids in that school who doesn't know yet if their kids are okay. The sad part is that there is no foolproof method for keeping kids safe in schools, short of having every student and teacher remote-in from home, essentially turning the school into a massive data center. At that point, kids won't be able to learn social interaction skills *at all*, which is part of what makes schools so valuable.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              Dalek Dave
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              Or possibly implement gun control.

              --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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              • D Dalek Dave

                Or possibly implement gun control.

                --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                Lost User
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                http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/14/world/asia/china-knife-attack/index.html?npt=NP1[^] :|

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  Or possibly implement gun control.

                  --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                  realJSOP
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                  Nope, won't work. They outlawed drugs, and you can get them easily. They outlawed driving under the influence, yet people can buy both cars and booze. You can make all the laws you want, but the bad guys are going to keep breaking them. In this particular instance, a school is considered a "gun-free zone" (federal law). BY LAW, you cannot bring a gun into a school. He also could not legally carry a gun in Connecticut because he wasn't 21. When people are intent on mayhem, "the law" is not the thing they worry about the most. "The law" is merely an instrument the government uses to put people in jail. The problem with a mass shooting is that the perp is likely to take his own life AFTER he commits the crime. You can't arrest them at point, can you? So, the solution isn't gun control. The solution isn't arming the teachers. The solution isn't trying to prevent guns from entering school premises. The best solution is remote decentralized teaching/learning. The kids are safer, but they don't learn other essential skills. Beyond that, this only addresses the schools. What about the malls, or community swimming pools, or the county fair? The knee-jerk reaction to put more control on guns is simply not plausible.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Or possibly implement gun control.

                    --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                    Slacker007
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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    Or possibly implement gun control.

                    Kids get hacked to death in Chinese schools because they don't have guns. Look it up. [edit] There are many cases of children being hacked to death in China. Hacked, instead of shot, because guns are illegal. Now, should they outlaw knives, machetes, and axes as well?

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                      Nope, won't work. They outlawed drugs, and you can get them easily. They outlawed driving under the influence, yet people can buy both cars and booze. You can make all the laws you want, but the bad guys are going to keep breaking them. In this particular instance, a school is considered a "gun-free zone" (federal law). BY LAW, you cannot bring a gun into a school. He also could not legally carry a gun in Connecticut because he wasn't 21. When people are intent on mayhem, "the law" is not the thing they worry about the most. "The law" is merely an instrument the government uses to put people in jail. The problem with a mass shooting is that the perp is likely to take his own life AFTER he commits the crime. You can't arrest them at point, can you? So, the solution isn't gun control. The solution isn't arming the teachers. The solution isn't trying to prevent guns from entering school premises. The best solution is remote decentralized teaching/learning. The kids are safer, but they don't learn other essential skills. Beyond that, this only addresses the schools. What about the malls, or community swimming pools, or the county fair? The knee-jerk reaction to put more control on guns is simply not plausible.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                      Slacker007
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                      security guard stations and full bag checks. One entry in and one entry out. just like my ex-place of employment.

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                        security guard stations and full bag checks. One entry in and one entry out. just like my ex-place of employment.

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                        Colin Mullikin
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                        Slacker007 wrote:

                        security guard stations and full bag checks.

                        Have fun implementing that at every single school in the entire country... :doh:

                        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                        • R realJSOP

                          Nope, won't work. They outlawed drugs, and you can get them easily. They outlawed driving under the influence, yet people can buy both cars and booze. You can make all the laws you want, but the bad guys are going to keep breaking them. In this particular instance, a school is considered a "gun-free zone" (federal law). BY LAW, you cannot bring a gun into a school. He also could not legally carry a gun in Connecticut because he wasn't 21. When people are intent on mayhem, "the law" is not the thing they worry about the most. "The law" is merely an instrument the government uses to put people in jail. The problem with a mass shooting is that the perp is likely to take his own life AFTER he commits the crime. You can't arrest them at point, can you? So, the solution isn't gun control. The solution isn't arming the teachers. The solution isn't trying to prevent guns from entering school premises. The best solution is remote decentralized teaching/learning. The kids are safer, but they don't learn other essential skills. Beyond that, this only addresses the schools. What about the malls, or community swimming pools, or the county fair? The knee-jerk reaction to put more control on guns is simply not plausible.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          RugbyLeague
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                          I am in the UK - if I was going to go postal I wouldn't have a clue where to get hold of a gun. If I was in the USA I daresay I could get hold of a gun very easily. Gun control is the only solution

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                            Slacker007 wrote:

                            security guard stations and full bag checks.

                            Have fun implementing that at every single school in the entire country... :doh:

                            The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                            Slacker007
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                            just a suggestion. I think it is going to be impossible to implement anything worth while at every school across the country.

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                            • R RugbyLeague

                              I am in the UK - if I was going to go postal I wouldn't have a clue where to get hold of a gun. If I was in the USA I daresay I could get hold of a gun very easily. Gun control is the only solution

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                              Slacker007
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                              RugbyLeague wrote:

                              Gun control is the only solution

                              No, it is not. What are you going to do with the person that WANTS to do this kind of killing? How do you stop the intent? Gun control is not the only answer.

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                                RugbyLeague wrote:

                                Gun control is the only solution

                                No, it is not. What are you going to do with the person that WANTS to do this kind of killing? How do you stop the intent? Gun control is not the only answer.

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                                RugbyLeague
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                                If you make access to guns extremely difficult it will be very difficult for somebody who just flips to get hold of one and use one. You won't entirely prevent pre-meditated, planned, murder spress but it will minimise the number of nutters flipping and going bullet happy in public places.

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                                  If you make access to guns extremely difficult it will be very difficult for somebody who just flips to get hold of one and use one. You won't entirely prevent pre-meditated, planned, murder spress but it will minimise the number of nutters flipping and going bullet happy in public places.

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                                  Slacker007
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                                  I have to disagree on the banning guns. Please Google search for school children in China being killed by psycho's. They do it without guns. They flipped out, too.

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                                  • S Septimus Hedgehog

                                    Just read this[^] on Auntie. Terrible news.

                                    "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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                                    Lurker1315
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                                    I vote brainwashing as the solution

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                                    • R RugbyLeague

                                      If you make access to guns extremely difficult it will be very difficult for somebody who just flips to get hold of one and use one. You won't entirely prevent pre-meditated, planned, murder spress but it will minimise the number of nutters flipping and going bullet happy in public places.

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                                      Colin Mullikin
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                                      RugbyLeague wrote:

                                      it will minimise the number of nutters flipping and going bullet happy in public places.

                                      And increase the number of nutters flipping and going knife happy in public places... :doh:

                                      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                      • R realJSOP

                                        Nope, won't work. They outlawed drugs, and you can get them easily. They outlawed driving under the influence, yet people can buy both cars and booze. You can make all the laws you want, but the bad guys are going to keep breaking them. In this particular instance, a school is considered a "gun-free zone" (federal law). BY LAW, you cannot bring a gun into a school. He also could not legally carry a gun in Connecticut because he wasn't 21. When people are intent on mayhem, "the law" is not the thing they worry about the most. "The law" is merely an instrument the government uses to put people in jail. The problem with a mass shooting is that the perp is likely to take his own life AFTER he commits the crime. You can't arrest them at point, can you? So, the solution isn't gun control. The solution isn't arming the teachers. The solution isn't trying to prevent guns from entering school premises. The best solution is remote decentralized teaching/learning. The kids are safer, but they don't learn other essential skills. Beyond that, this only addresses the schools. What about the malls, or community swimming pools, or the county fair? The knee-jerk reaction to put more control on guns is simply not plausible.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                        Lost User
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        In this particular instance, a school is considered a "gun-free zone" (federal law). BY LAW, you cannot bring a gun into a school.

                                        Michael Moore ‏@MMFlint Just 18 hrs ago, those Republicans in the Michigan House rammed thru a bill making it LEGAL to carry a gun into a school or day care center.

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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                                        • S Slacker007

                                          I have to disagree on the banning guns. Please Google search for school children in China being killed by psycho's. They do it without guns. They flipped out, too.

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                                          RugbyLeague
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                                          cool strawman bro

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