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  • C Colin Mullikin

    Albert Holguin wrote:

    easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

    Clickety[^] :laugh:

    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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    Forogar
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    Why? :wtf:

    - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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    • A Albert Holguin

      Would you go with Win 7 or 8? ...my main dev target is desktop applications (C++/Java)... ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

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      Nish Nishant
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      Win8 for sure. Can do everything Win7 can + the new stuff.

      Regards, Nish


      My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        Win8 for sure. Can do everything Win7 can + the new stuff.

        Regards, Nish


        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        Albert Holguin
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        Yeah but you know there's the whole MS thing with every other OS being crap... although I haven't used 8 enough to know. Are you using that now?

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        • A Albert Holguin

          Would you go with Win 7 or 8? ...my main dev target is desktop applications (C++/Java)... ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

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          Maximilien
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          I'd go with Windows 8. When getting a new machine at work, I always go with the latest OS.

          Nihil obstat

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          • A Albert Holguin

            Would you go with Win 7 or 8? ...my main dev target is desktop applications (C++/Java)... ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

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            Mike Hankey
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            Albert Holguin wrote:

            ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

            Something like this[^]?

            VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
            Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1

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            • C Colin Mullikin

              Albert Holguin wrote:

              easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

              Clickety[^] :laugh:

              The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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              Clifford Nelson
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              Somebody has more money than they need...In other words buying an apple product. :)

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              • A Albert Holguin

                Would you go with Win 7 or 8? ...my main dev target is desktop applications (C++/Java)... ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

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                Christian Graus
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                At this point, if I was writing desktop apps, I'd go dual boot, so I could test on W8 without being tied to it day to day.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                • A Albert Holguin

                  Yeah but you know there's the whole MS thing with every other OS being crap... although I haven't used 8 enough to know. Are you using that now?

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  My main machines are all Win7, I do dual boot Win8 on a laptop. But I did quite a bit of dev on the beta and RC versions of W8 using VS 2012 beta and had few or no issues.

                  Regards, Nish


                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  • F Forogar

                    Why? :wtf:

                    - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                    Colin Mullikin
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                    I wasn't actually suggesting he get it. I was just pointing out the ease of hard drive insertion/removal[^] with that case design. :laugh:

                    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      Albert Holguin wrote:

                      ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

                      Something like this[^]?

                      VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
                      Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1

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                      Albert Holguin
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                      Can you boot off USB from most motherboards? ...I haven't done that much but that could be the way to go (I want to be able to boot off the other drives to different Linux distros).

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        At this point, if I was writing desktop apps, I'd go dual boot, so I could test on W8 without being tied to it day to day.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Albert Holguin
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                        Yeah... that might be a good option...

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                        • A Albert Holguin

                          Would you go with Win 7 or 8? ...my main dev target is desktop applications (C++/Java)... ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

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                          dexterama
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                          I'd recommend a dual boot as well. You'll want Windows 8 to test on, etc. but I think, once you've played with 8, you would want to go back to Windows 7 for development. Windows 8 is flaky for me - you'll need to buy (to get a stable one) replacement for the start menu, which still seems stunningly asinine to me, defaults won't work, and I even have to reboot on occasion for things like double clicking stops working and starts performing right clicks instead. No it's not a setting; a reboot fixes it every time. (and worst of all, my Evoluent vertical mice don't work quite normally either).

                          Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. - George Carlin

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                          • A Albert Holguin

                            Would you go with Win 7 or 8? ...my main dev target is desktop applications (C++/Java)... ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

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                            DaveyM69
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                            I have recently started using Windows 8 and it took some getting used to. The biggest thing was no traditional start menu. Once you figure out (and get accustomed to it) the 'Modern UI' start screen is actually your start menu but on some serious steroids then it is a none issue. I'm doing all my dev on it now using Visual Studio 2012 (I also have a WAMP environment set up for occasional PHP stuff) with no issues at all. There was a learning curve for the first few days though, but that's part of the fun IMO.

                            Dave
                            Binging is like googling, it just feels dirtier. Please take your VB.NET out of our nice case sensitive forum. Astonish us. Be exceptional. (Pete O'Hanlon)
                            BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)

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                            • A Albert Holguin

                              Yeah but you know there's the whole MS thing with every other OS being crap... although I haven't used 8 enough to know. Are you using that now?

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                              Judah Gabriel Himango
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                              Using Win8 here for development for the last few months. No problems at all. I like it.

                              My Messianic Jewish blog: Kineti L'Tziyon My software blog: Debugger.Break() Judah Himango

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                              • C Colin Mullikin

                                I wasn't actually suggesting he get it. I was just pointing out the ease of hard drive insertion/removal[^] with that case design. :laugh:

                                The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                Forogar
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                                Oh. That's alright then - I got worried for a moment!

                                - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                                • C Clifford Nelson

                                  Somebody has more money than they need...In other words buying an apple product. :)

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                                  Lost User
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                                  You get what you pay for.

                                  Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                                  • A Albert Holguin

                                    Would you go with Win 7 or 8? ...my main dev target is desktop applications (C++/Java)... ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.

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                                    SoMad
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                                    I think this question is important enough to be a survey on the CP home page - perhaps with some additions (and taking out your HD related question :) ). There are already a couple of good answers. I wish I was able to add to them, but I will be in the same boat as you pretty soon and I am also interested in hearing what other developers here have to say about their actual experience with doing development on Windows 8. Actually, I am mostly interested in hearing if there is something you cannot accomplish when developing under Win8, specifically regarding XP targeted development. I will be stuck with that for some time and know there are some pitfalls with the .NET Framework 4.5 as previously posted here (was that by CG and Espen or Pete? I thought I had the posts bookmarked, but I guess not :^) ). Soren Madsen

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                                      You get what you pay for.

                                      Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                                      Forogar
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                                      Sometimes.

                                      - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                                        Sometimes.

                                        - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Apple is obviously not perfect but they win a ton of design, quality and customer satisfaction awards. More than any other computer maker or consumer electronics maker I can think of. Every Apple product I've owned has been rock solid. I wish I could say that of every other product I've owned.

                                        Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                                          You get what you pay for.

                                          Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                                          Clifford Nelson
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                                          No, sometimes you get a lot less than you pay for, especially when you are buying the latest in designer products. Apple has always been expensive for what you pay for, but I have to admit that they do a pretty slick job on their products, and their marketing is also very impressive.

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