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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    And in the next version they will remove the ability to code from the equation by removing the compilers. No more discrimination against the stupid!

    If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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    Rutvik Dave
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    :laugh:

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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

      There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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      Rutvik Dave
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      I also complain about the new design, and even posted the list of the links that will make VS2012 look like VS2010. but after a while I like VS2012 better, specially after installing Windows 8. give it some time...

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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        Keith Barrow
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        And this was after feedback and they put some colour back in. They got their own back though, they put shouty ALLCAPS on the tab headings, after review these were removed. And added them to the menu system, where they are more prominent.

        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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          Lost User
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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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            Richard Deeming
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            But the Alot is better than you at everything[^]. :-D


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            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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              Brady Kelly
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              I, for one technicolour sighted developer, find the 2012 UI much tidier and more comfortable to use.

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                Yes, yes, dragging and dropping from tiles. Visual Studio 2014[^]

                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                Vark111
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                You know, we joke about this kind of thing but I'm working in a current version of another "development environment"[^] where adding a line of code into a script requires a double-click or drag and drop. :(( And this thing has certifications and a developer network as well. :wtf:

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                  Vark111
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                  I like the fact that 2012 feels much faster than 2010, but I doubt that's because they made the UI near-monochrome. That being said, I find it noticeably more difficult to use for two related reasons. One, I'm not a massive user of keyboard shortcuts. I use the frequent ones (saving files, cut/paste lines of code, etc.), but for the stuff I don't use on a daily basis? I'm not filling up my memory buffer with those shortcuts. Which means when I need to do one of those rare things, I have to hunt for an icon on a toolbar. At a resolution of 2560x1440 with my eyesight, color became a major identifying factor for those icons.

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                    You know, we joke about this kind of thing but I'm working in a current version of another "development environment"[^] where adding a line of code into a script requires a double-click or drag and drop. :(( And this thing has certifications and a developer network as well. :wtf:

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Are you sure it "has certifications" and not it is "certified [as insane]"

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                      ii_noname_ii
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                      I hate it. I had so high expectations. :mad::mad::thumbsdown::thumbsdown: It's just as bad, maybe worse than 2010. So I'm still working with VS 2008 (on windows 8 pro).. Some features are simply broken/not working in VS 2010-2012. The loss of productivity when trying to use 2012 is just ridiculous. And believe me, I tried hard, and still try on occasion; but always end up doing internet searches to find out WHY those features don't work. Mainly Edit & Continue, which lost all it's purpose from 2010 and up.

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                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                        There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                        Howard Richards
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                        Since when was designing a system for the minority and not the majority a good thing? Making a system worse so 1% (of whatever percentage) can feel equal? That's not equality it's tyranny. A dumb comment

                        'Howard

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                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                          There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                          Eric Whitmore
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                          One thing i do appreciate about the new VS is that they integrated a copy of SQL Server directly into like they did with the web server.

                          PlutoX

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                          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                            There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                            Phil_Murray
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                            It's much better, quicker and more functional than VS2010. Pity its so fugly. Here's my +1 for VS2014 interface being touch only :zzz:

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                              KLPounds
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                              I find 2012 to be tolerable now. Once I added the theme editor extension, removed the loud menus, and added a couple extensions that I've long been dependent of in VS2010. Basically, made 2012 act and feel a little more like 2010.. As mentioned, the SQL integration is convenient. The other little touches and improvements to intellisense are welcome. The bland icons with their afterthought colors I could live without but it's not nearly the nails on a chalkboard that the loud menus became for me. The icons aren't as lame when your not blasted with screenfuls of drab grays and white. Once you get past the distraction of all the GUI changes made for their own agenda for our own benefit, I accept it as a fair toolbox upgrade for writing code for the next dead in 2-5 years technology. It has worked well for my projects so far and I've mitigated most of the my productivity killing distractions. I look forward I still see it as change for the sake of change from the softies. The Windows, Office, Mobile teams all got drastic UI changes (for better or worse) so the VS team I'm sure was pressured to change.. Too bad that's the best they could come up with. VS2016 will just be the re-branded version of TouchDevelop.:cool:

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                              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                                Glosse
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                                Where oh where did the installer packager go????

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                                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                  There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                                  RafagaX
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                                  Life in monochrome (with a lot of shouting) ;P. I dislike the grey default theme and the All Caps menus, but after 5 minutes of looking colorful code i barely notice the UI. :)

                                  CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                    There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                                    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                                    Steve Naidamast
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                                    I think everyone's complaints about Visual Studio 2012 are somewhat over the top. VS 2012 is fine and if the only thing people have to complain about are the lack of color and the capitalized headings than that is pretty small-time. Maybe the complainers should all work with the tools in the Java world. Than they would have something to complain about...

                                    Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com

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                                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                      There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                                      Member 4608898
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                                      My biggest complaint is that it doesn't work on XP. I have to do builds for VS6, 7.1, 8, 9, 10, 11. 6 & 7 don't work reliably on Vista upwards and 11 doesn't work on XP.

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                                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                        There has been a lot of grumbling (not alot[^]) about the new Visual Studio 2012. Well I for one think it's great. Previously, it was difficult to understand how users with Color Blindness and other Visual Issues interacted with your application. By removing all colors and highlights from the User Interface, MS has made all users equal. No more will people with better eye sight be allowed to take advantage of a better visual experience. Equality for all! Snark.

                                        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                                        Casey Sheridan
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                                        :thumbsup:

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