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  • L Lost User

    A Ninja would destroy the interviewer with their lightning wit. ;)

    One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

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    codeninja C
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    Thanks Richard :)

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      How could the interviewer judge a candidates performance? Yes, today i attend the interview and the interviewer told me that you are a theoretical guy so,we don't need you. I almost answer all their answers with clear explanations but... I think "If we answer more than the interviewer expectations some times they call us a Theoretical guy" is it true? How could i react to that situations? --SJ Updated On 25-DEC-2012, Thanks to all who responded to my thread. My mind is clear right now and I hope i will get the job very soon. Merry X-Mas to all CodeNinjas Thanks --SJ

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      It happens - it may be that they are being polite, but they just don't think you will fit into the team. It may be they got a "I am not working with him!" feeling when you first walked in the room (it happens, and it's not necessarily anything to do with what you look like, sound like, dress like). It could be the guy before you was his best mate and he didn't want you to feel you had wasted your time. Ignore it, move on. If it happens every time, then look at your interview technique - there may be a problem you aren't aware of.

      If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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        How could the interviewer judge a candidates performance? Yes, today i attend the interview and the interviewer told me that you are a theoretical guy so,we don't need you. I almost answer all their answers with clear explanations but... I think "If we answer more than the interviewer expectations some times they call us a Theoretical guy" is it true? How could i react to that situations? --SJ Updated On 25-DEC-2012, Thanks to all who responded to my thread. My mind is clear right now and I hope i will get the job very soon. Merry X-Mas to all CodeNinjas Thanks --SJ

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        Did you use the word "theoretically" too many times? Never give them more information, then what they asked for. This also proves well in a court of law. :)

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          How could the interviewer judge a candidates performance? Yes, today i attend the interview and the interviewer told me that you are a theoretical guy so,we don't need you. I almost answer all their answers with clear explanations but... I think "If we answer more than the interviewer expectations some times they call us a Theoretical guy" is it true? How could i react to that situations? --SJ Updated On 25-DEC-2012, Thanks to all who responded to my thread. My mind is clear right now and I hope i will get the job very soon. Merry X-Mas to all CodeNinjas Thanks --SJ

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          Chris Meech
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          Theory vs Practice. See my sig. :) Providing an answer which contains more than what an interviewer is asking should be viewed favourably. To me, it demonstrates a willingness to ensure comprehension of your answer. That ability is often more valued than just knowing the answer. :)

          Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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            Theory vs Practice. See my sig. :) Providing an answer which contains more than what an interviewer is asking should be viewed favourably. To me, it demonstrates a willingness to ensure comprehension of your answer. That ability is often more valued than just knowing the answer. :)

            Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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            Chris Meech wrote:

            should be viewed favourably

            In theory. In practice, no.

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              Chris Meech wrote:

              should be viewed favourably

              In theory. In practice, no.

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              Chris Meech
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              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

              Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                How could the interviewer judge a candidates performance? Yes, today i attend the interview and the interviewer told me that you are a theoretical guy so,we don't need you. I almost answer all their answers with clear explanations but... I think "If we answer more than the interviewer expectations some times they call us a Theoretical guy" is it true? How could i react to that situations? --SJ Updated On 25-DEC-2012, Thanks to all who responded to my thread. My mind is clear right now and I hope i will get the job very soon. Merry X-Mas to all CodeNinjas Thanks --SJ

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                I wouldn't know, of course, but it sounds possible that "theoretical" is the new "over-qualified" which I heard so many times in the past. Translation - "You're worth far more than we're willing to pay." Oh, well. Another will come along, so enjoy the holiday and deal with it next year. :-D

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                  How could the interviewer judge a candidates performance? Yes, today i attend the interview and the interviewer told me that you are a theoretical guy so,we don't need you. I almost answer all their answers with clear explanations but... I think "If we answer more than the interviewer expectations some times they call us a Theoretical guy" is it true? How could i react to that situations? --SJ Updated On 25-DEC-2012, Thanks to all who responded to my thread. My mind is clear right now and I hope i will get the job very soon. Merry X-Mas to all CodeNinjas Thanks --SJ

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                  CodeNinja-C# wrote:

                  How could i react to that situations?

                  Merry Xmas, CodeNinja-C#, As you've seen, in the other responses to your question, there could many factors that led to the outcome your reported, many of them having no relation to your personality, technical expertise, and the "impression" you gave in the interview. And, once that "verdict," "Theoretical Guy," was pronounced, you probably had little choice, but, to bow-out, gracefully. It sounds to me like you were interviewed by one person: when that's the case, I think it's important to know whether that one person was a "screener," who is not an active member of the team, or work-group, that you were, possibly, going to be hired to work with: or, is that one person the head of the team you would be, possibly, hired to work for ... or ... is that person in some other role in the company. Depending on what role that interviewer plays in the company, I think, puts the person being interviewed into different "psychological realities." One of my first goals, if I were being interviewed in person, would be to know who is interviewing me, and what role they play in the company, and what that role "is" in relation to the position I was being interviewed for. And, I would be very assertive (in a polite way) about responding to open-ended questions, where your answer could be highly theoretical, or could be focused on very practical examples taken from your own experience and work. I'd ask the interviewer for clarification directly regarding the practical vs. theoretical implications of their questions. However, what I am saying here is: really "fortune-telling," in the absence of more specific information about the context of the interview, the nature of the company, and its culture, and the position you are being interviewed for. So, sprinkle salt on every tail-feather in this response ! I do believe, as John Ruskin said: "Advice is the worst form of vice." Sometimes being "pro-active" can backfire ? Well, I once interviewed over the phone with a team leader at Microsoft: he asked me an incredibly broad, open-ended (implicit), question: "Tell me about object-orient programming." My response was: "Let me ask you to clarify what aspect of object-oriented programming you are asking about: are you asking about the history of OOP going back to SmallTalk, the work of Alan Kay, Terry Winograd, Adelle Goldberg, the pioneering efforts at Xerox Parc, the later formalizations introduced

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                    It happens - it may be that they are being polite, but they just don't think you will fit into the team. It may be they got a "I am not working with him!" feeling when you first walked in the room (it happens, and it's not necessarily anything to do with what you look like, sound like, dress like). It could be the guy before you was his best mate and he didn't want you to feel you had wasted your time. Ignore it, move on. If it happens every time, then look at your interview technique - there may be a problem you aren't aware of.

                    If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                    codeninja C
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                    Thanks Griff

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                      Did you use the word "theoretically" too many times? Never give them more information, then what they asked for. This also proves well in a court of law. :)

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                      codeninja C
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                      I never used the word theoretically. But explain the concepts more clearly For ex: They asked me about SQL joins, I explain the joins with Venn Diagrams(I thought it is the easiest way to impress the interviewer)

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                      • C Chris Meech

                        Theory vs Practice. See my sig. :) Providing an answer which contains more than what an interviewer is asking should be viewed favourably. To me, it demonstrates a willingness to ensure comprehension of your answer. That ability is often more valued than just knowing the answer. :)

                        Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                        codeninja C
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                        Thanks Chris

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          I wouldn't know, of course, but it sounds possible that "theoretical" is the new "over-qualified" which I heard so many times in the past. Translation - "You're worth far more than we're willing to pay." Oh, well. Another will come along, so enjoy the holiday and deal with it next year. :-D

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          codeninja C
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                          Thanks Roger Wright

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                          • B BillWoodruff

                            CodeNinja-C# wrote:

                            How could i react to that situations?

                            Merry Xmas, CodeNinja-C#, As you've seen, in the other responses to your question, there could many factors that led to the outcome your reported, many of them having no relation to your personality, technical expertise, and the "impression" you gave in the interview. And, once that "verdict," "Theoretical Guy," was pronounced, you probably had little choice, but, to bow-out, gracefully. It sounds to me like you were interviewed by one person: when that's the case, I think it's important to know whether that one person was a "screener," who is not an active member of the team, or work-group, that you were, possibly, going to be hired to work with: or, is that one person the head of the team you would be, possibly, hired to work for ... or ... is that person in some other role in the company. Depending on what role that interviewer plays in the company, I think, puts the person being interviewed into different "psychological realities." One of my first goals, if I were being interviewed in person, would be to know who is interviewing me, and what role they play in the company, and what that role "is" in relation to the position I was being interviewed for. And, I would be very assertive (in a polite way) about responding to open-ended questions, where your answer could be highly theoretical, or could be focused on very practical examples taken from your own experience and work. I'd ask the interviewer for clarification directly regarding the practical vs. theoretical implications of their questions. However, what I am saying here is: really "fortune-telling," in the absence of more specific information about the context of the interview, the nature of the company, and its culture, and the position you are being interviewed for. So, sprinkle salt on every tail-feather in this response ! I do believe, as John Ruskin said: "Advice is the worst form of vice." Sometimes being "pro-active" can backfire ? Well, I once interviewed over the phone with a team leader at Microsoft: he asked me an incredibly broad, open-ended (implicit), question: "Tell me about object-orient programming." My response was: "Let me ask you to clarify what aspect of object-oriented programming you are asking about: are you asking about the history of OOP going back to SmallTalk, the work of Alan Kay, Terry Winograd, Adelle Goldberg, the pioneering efforts at Xerox Parc, the later formalizations introduced

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                            codeninja C
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                            Merry XMas, Bill. Yes, I were interviewed by one person(Probably, he is as a team member) Many Thanks to your suggestions. --SJ

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