Anti-Americanism Takes Shape in Western Europe

peterchen

Isn#t your title a blatant gemeralization? :cool:

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Paul Watson

Kant wrote: "I was making the case that if we go into Iraq and discover weapons of mass destruction, then the world would come to realize we'd been right," recalls Smith. "And they told me, 'If that happens, it's only because the CIA planted them.' I was floored." That is absurd. Saddam has or had WMDs he should not have. He is not accounting for them or their destruction, and according to that 1441 resolution he should now be in some prison with UN troops in Baghdad. Anyone who believes otherwise is not helping anybody. I am still against war but we all agreed to 1441 and we must now stick to what we said. The point is not wether Saddam has any WMDs IMO. This is like trying to get proof that Mugabe has committed human rights violations. Of course he has, but you won't get that proof soon enough to help anyone and the proof is not going to sway either side anyway. Stop talking, go to war, get it over with, regret it later.

Paul Watson
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Paul Watson

peterchen wrote: if the "richest country of the world" would only admit that Theirs is bigger. Whatever it is, theirs is bigger. That is all that counts.

Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

Rohit Sinha

<> Yes, you are right of course. I hope you understand that my comment was not directed at anyone or any country in particular, but was rather a general statement.
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Rohit Sinha

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peterchen

Rohit Sinha wrote: I hope you understand that my comment was not directed at anyone or any country in particular, but was rather a general statement. No problem here ;)

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ColinDavies

Mike Mullikin wrote: Mr. Smith is naive, he should spend a few days here at CP. LOL Yeah, even if the rest of the world is wrong, at least americuns at CP are a bit more worldly about it. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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KaRl

That's it, let's victimize the poor America, surrounded by bad people who don't understand its Grandeur Could we also have a look of the behaviour of the american press, and how they treat the others? For example, just some expressions in the US newspapers about France in the last days:"Cheese-eating surrender monkeys"[^], "the petulant prima donna of realpolitik", or about Chirac in the WallStreet Journal: "a positive monster of conceit", "the abject procurer for Saddam", "the rat that tried to roar". These "journalists" should know it's the better way to convince us we're right[^]. But as often, the depth of their ignorance is bottomless

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Anna Jayne Metcalfe

That's nothing new. Mistrust of the US and its motives has been common in Europe for as long as I remember. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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Anna Jayne Metcalfe

That's journalists for you. The tabloid press in the UK are just as inflammatory. :mad: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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KaRl

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: The tabloid press in the UK are just as inflammatory I've sometimes difficulties to differentiate UK tabloïds from US ones ;) I can't understand why so many people buy these ...things. Are they decerebrate or am I a f#cking arrogant?

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Anna Jayne Metcalfe

I've never understood it either. :confused: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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Stan Shannon

When the French and/or the Germans are finally right about something, than we can start taking them seriously. Until then, they will simply have to be content with impressing each other with their take on civilization. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

HENDRIK R

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: The tabloid press in the UK are just as inflammatory I've to agree. When I saw some snippets from english 'newspapers' I didn't know whether to laugh or to cry. They describe France and Germany as if we were lepers. I don't understand why they ever need to strengthen misunderstandings and international disputes, leading to kind of hate and new prejudices among different (European) nations. I don't think our tabloid papers do better, but the English (and US) papers seem to have a more dangerous style. But for sure there're positive examples, too. For instance New York Times mentioning that the current situation is not only caused by France or Germany but also by Bush's 'either for us or against us' - theory.

HENDRIK R

KaЯl wrote: I can't understand why so many people buy these ...things I think the fact is that reading such 'papers' enables everyone, even people usually not being interested in politics, to have an opinion. The only problem is that many of them adapt the opinion of the newspaper, not really thinking about it. And should any discussion they're involved in lead to politics, they can express 'their' opinion. And others will agree, because their opinion was built by the same paper. This goes on, and all have the same things to complain about. And at the end all are very proud of themselves being part of a great, conform community.

Anna Jayne Metcalfe

Stan Shannon wrote: When the French and/or the Germans are finally right about something, than we can start taking them seriously. Until then, they will simply have to be content with impressing each other with their take on civilization. Meeooowww! Getcha claws out Stan! ;) Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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Anna Jayne Metcalfe

Let me guess...The Sun, The Daily Mail, News of the World,.... All the same I'm afraid. I have a particular bone to pick with the Daily Mail as there "opinions" on people like me are particularly insulting. :mad: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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HENDRIK R

Stan Shannon wrote: When the French and/or the Germans are finally right about something, than we can start taking them seriously. Until then, they will simply have to be content with impressing each other with their take on civilization. No offense;) : When the French and/or the Germans US are finally right about something, than we can start taking them seriously. Until then, they will simply have to be content with not impressing each other the whole world with their take on civilization.

KaRl

I rather think they use low level methods to attract people (naked girls, scandals, exposure of riches and famous private lifes) to then politically manipulate them. And, oh, surprise, what side of the political chess-board are they promoting?

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Stan Shannon

I'll be happy to compare and contrast the political/diplomatic history of the U.S. to that of Germany any day. For example, since the advent of U.S. hegemony, there has not been a single World war. How many did you guys start? (which we had to finish) ;P "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

Stan Shannon

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Getcha claws out Stan! The French and the German's bring out the worst in me. They always remind of Stanley Laurel's famous line: "Remember how dumb I used to be, I'm better now". "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle