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  • S Septimus Hedgehog

    I've very recently been put forward to a few firms and I was in the fortunate position to have some interviews lined up and even more fortunate to be able to cancel. I had, shall we say, a somewhat ambiguous code test end-last week with a firm in Brighton which I "failed". Both me and the agency disputed their assessment and to be honest, if you have problems with a firm before you start, then who knows what they'd be like if you did? To be honest, I'd not have been comfortable with them after that so I'm happy with the outcome. I then had an interview yesterday with another firm and I apparently did well in their code test and I had one of the best interviews I can remember; meaning, it was really enjoyable and fun and it was more participation than the traditional formal-cum-stuffy me on one side of the table and them on the other. The agency phoned me a little while ago to say they're offering me one of their developer jobs which I'm thrilled to announce I've accepted. I like the feel of the company, the welcome I got when I went through the door, the work they do, the possibility of attending a long-considered deficiency in my CV, namely, web-oriented development to complement the Winforms I do most. I've had great jobs in the past for sure and I see far more positives with this one than some others I've been at. As they say in Zulu, I am a Jubalayo Unogwaja (happy bunny). I start on Monday. I've been at home since end October and I was starting to get a bit stir-crazy. :-D

    "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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    BobJanova
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    Congratulations! It's excellent if you find a company that's fun to work for. I enjoy my work now and it adds some routine to my life without feeling like it's a chore to go to. I hope you can have the same experience at your new employer of choice!

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    • S Septimus Hedgehog

      I've very recently been put forward to a few firms and I was in the fortunate position to have some interviews lined up and even more fortunate to be able to cancel. I had, shall we say, a somewhat ambiguous code test end-last week with a firm in Brighton which I "failed". Both me and the agency disputed their assessment and to be honest, if you have problems with a firm before you start, then who knows what they'd be like if you did? To be honest, I'd not have been comfortable with them after that so I'm happy with the outcome. I then had an interview yesterday with another firm and I apparently did well in their code test and I had one of the best interviews I can remember; meaning, it was really enjoyable and fun and it was more participation than the traditional formal-cum-stuffy me on one side of the table and them on the other. The agency phoned me a little while ago to say they're offering me one of their developer jobs which I'm thrilled to announce I've accepted. I like the feel of the company, the welcome I got when I went through the door, the work they do, the possibility of attending a long-considered deficiency in my CV, namely, web-oriented development to complement the Winforms I do most. I've had great jobs in the past for sure and I see far more positives with this one than some others I've been at. As they say in Zulu, I am a Jubalayo Unogwaja (happy bunny). I start on Monday. I've been at home since end October and I was starting to get a bit stir-crazy. :-D

      "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      Well done, my turn next. :sigh:


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      • S Septimus Hedgehog

        I've very recently been put forward to a few firms and I was in the fortunate position to have some interviews lined up and even more fortunate to be able to cancel. I had, shall we say, a somewhat ambiguous code test end-last week with a firm in Brighton which I "failed". Both me and the agency disputed their assessment and to be honest, if you have problems with a firm before you start, then who knows what they'd be like if you did? To be honest, I'd not have been comfortable with them after that so I'm happy with the outcome. I then had an interview yesterday with another firm and I apparently did well in their code test and I had one of the best interviews I can remember; meaning, it was really enjoyable and fun and it was more participation than the traditional formal-cum-stuffy me on one side of the table and them on the other. The agency phoned me a little while ago to say they're offering me one of their developer jobs which I'm thrilled to announce I've accepted. I like the feel of the company, the welcome I got when I went through the door, the work they do, the possibility of attending a long-considered deficiency in my CV, namely, web-oriented development to complement the Winforms I do most. I've had great jobs in the past for sure and I see far more positives with this one than some others I've been at. As they say in Zulu, I am a Jubalayo Unogwaja (happy bunny). I start on Monday. I've been at home since end October and I was starting to get a bit stir-crazy. :-D

        "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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        Congratulations! Im fresh through the door with actually earning a living as a developer, and the job I currently have I got the developer job by chance.... I hear a lot about code tests when going for a developer job..... my question is what are they like?

        Personal Blog: A Software Programmer Twitter: JammoD

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        • S Septimus Hedgehog

          I've very recently been put forward to a few firms and I was in the fortunate position to have some interviews lined up and even more fortunate to be able to cancel. I had, shall we say, a somewhat ambiguous code test end-last week with a firm in Brighton which I "failed". Both me and the agency disputed their assessment and to be honest, if you have problems with a firm before you start, then who knows what they'd be like if you did? To be honest, I'd not have been comfortable with them after that so I'm happy with the outcome. I then had an interview yesterday with another firm and I apparently did well in their code test and I had one of the best interviews I can remember; meaning, it was really enjoyable and fun and it was more participation than the traditional formal-cum-stuffy me on one side of the table and them on the other. The agency phoned me a little while ago to say they're offering me one of their developer jobs which I'm thrilled to announce I've accepted. I like the feel of the company, the welcome I got when I went through the door, the work they do, the possibility of attending a long-considered deficiency in my CV, namely, web-oriented development to complement the Winforms I do most. I've had great jobs in the past for sure and I see far more positives with this one than some others I've been at. As they say in Zulu, I am a Jubalayo Unogwaja (happy bunny). I start on Monday. I've been at home since end October and I was starting to get a bit stir-crazy. :-D

          "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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          Great news, I hope it continues to work out well for you.

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Well done, my turn next. :sigh:


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            Septimus Hedgehog
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            Good luck. Didn't you recently have interviews or other meetings, something to do with the US? Something stirs in the sleepy backwaters (and frontwaters) of my mind.

            "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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            • S Septimus Hedgehog

              Good luck. Didn't you recently have interviews or other meetings, something to do with the US? Something stirs in the sleepy backwaters (and frontwaters) of my mind.

              "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              I had an offer, but it meant being away 4 days a week. Mrs Wife and the Ickels where not impressed.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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              • S Septimus Hedgehog

                I've very recently been put forward to a few firms and I was in the fortunate position to have some interviews lined up and even more fortunate to be able to cancel. I had, shall we say, a somewhat ambiguous code test end-last week with a firm in Brighton which I "failed". Both me and the agency disputed their assessment and to be honest, if you have problems with a firm before you start, then who knows what they'd be like if you did? To be honest, I'd not have been comfortable with them after that so I'm happy with the outcome. I then had an interview yesterday with another firm and I apparently did well in their code test and I had one of the best interviews I can remember; meaning, it was really enjoyable and fun and it was more participation than the traditional formal-cum-stuffy me on one side of the table and them on the other. The agency phoned me a little while ago to say they're offering me one of their developer jobs which I'm thrilled to announce I've accepted. I like the feel of the company, the welcome I got when I went through the door, the work they do, the possibility of attending a long-considered deficiency in my CV, namely, web-oriented development to complement the Winforms I do most. I've had great jobs in the past for sure and I see far more positives with this one than some others I've been at. As they say in Zulu, I am a Jubalayo Unogwaja (happy bunny). I start on Monday. I've been at home since end October and I was starting to get a bit stir-crazy. :-D

                "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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                Congratulations. That's fantastic news. Well done you.

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                • J JammoD87

                  Congratulations! Im fresh through the door with actually earning a living as a developer, and the job I currently have I got the developer job by chance.... I hear a lot about code tests when going for a developer job..... my question is what are they like?

                  Personal Blog: A Software Programmer Twitter: JammoD

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                  JammoD87 wrote:

                  ...code tests..... my question is what are they like?

                  Code tests mean different things. Some, like the one I "failed", you do from home. There's usually no time limit as they don't know when you start or complete it but they use the time taken into account when deciding who to call for interview; the quicker the time taken the better the chance you'll be called. Others you normally do on-site, sometimes before an interview. On-site tests are either actual coding examples where they give you a relatively small app to develop in order to see if your knowledge of C#, databases and Dotnet namespaces compares to what's claimed in the CV. The problem with actual tests is you need to know the syntax. It's very easy to stumble on some syntax which isn't a problem when you have the leisure time to experiment but which can be difficult when you're are under the cosh with a time restraint. Most practical code tests are intended to be completed in a couple of hours. The spec for what they want you to complete is intended not to trip you up but for you to demonstrate what you know. If 500 people attempted a code test they'd come up with equally as many types of solution so there's no one specific right solution but if all 500 work they'll have a number of common features. The other type of test is a written test where they might give you a Word document with a number of questions; things like "What's the difference between a delegate and an event" which is a common question, or they ask an abstract question to probe a deeper knowledge. The classic multiple-choice questions are less common and in others they'll give you some syntax and ask you to describe what's wrong with it. I prefer the written tests as you can explore deeper knowledge which goes beyond simple language syntax. There aren't that many keywords in C# to master but some questions want you explain what sealed is used for and what a class must do that implements an interface or what must be defined in base classes for override to be used.

                  "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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                  • L Lost User

                    Great news, I hope it continues to work out well for you.

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                    Septimus Hedgehog
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                    Thanks for the attaboy, Richard. :)

                    "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      Congratulations. That's fantastic news. Well done you.

                      I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                      CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                      Septimus Hedgehog
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                      Thanks Pete. Just as soon as Mrs. Wife gets home we'll go for a celebratory coffee - I'm at the age where the other type of "celebration" doesn't quite work that way anymore. :-D

                      "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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                      • S Septimus Hedgehog

                        JammoD87 wrote:

                        ...code tests..... my question is what are they like?

                        Code tests mean different things. Some, like the one I "failed", you do from home. There's usually no time limit as they don't know when you start or complete it but they use the time taken into account when deciding who to call for interview; the quicker the time taken the better the chance you'll be called. Others you normally do on-site, sometimes before an interview. On-site tests are either actual coding examples where they give you a relatively small app to develop in order to see if your knowledge of C#, databases and Dotnet namespaces compares to what's claimed in the CV. The problem with actual tests is you need to know the syntax. It's very easy to stumble on some syntax which isn't a problem when you have the leisure time to experiment but which can be difficult when you're are under the cosh with a time restraint. Most practical code tests are intended to be completed in a couple of hours. The spec for what they want you to complete is intended not to trip you up but for you to demonstrate what you know. If 500 people attempted a code test they'd come up with equally as many types of solution so there's no one specific right solution but if all 500 work they'll have a number of common features. The other type of test is a written test where they might give you a Word document with a number of questions; things like "What's the difference between a delegate and an event" which is a common question, or they ask an abstract question to probe a deeper knowledge. The classic multiple-choice questions are less common and in others they'll give you some syntax and ask you to describe what's wrong with it. I prefer the written tests as you can explore deeper knowledge which goes beyond simple language syntax. There aren't that many keywords in C# to master but some questions want you explain what sealed is used for and what a class must do that implements an interface or what must be defined in base classes for override to be used.

                        "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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                        Thanks, this post is really informative.... at least I know what to expect when I get presented with a code test!

                        Personal Blog: A Software Programmer Twitter: JammoD

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