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  • C Clark Kent123

    Almost a month ago there was this same discussion about that here...http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4475107/iPads-tablets-Does-anyone-use-them-for-WORK-Or-any.aspx[^] (This link is a FYI so you can see what others have posted back then.) I have a buddy who works in a field where he needs to do inventory practically every day. The place where he does inventory has no wireless and does not have a company laptop. He writes all the info on a piece of paper and then enters the info on a desktop computer. He now uses his phone to enter in all the info which sends the data to a server (company app). This saves him so much time in his busy work schedule. There are certain scenarios where tablets and phones are very practical to use in a work environment. For me in my work environment it is not practical at all. If a co-worker has one it is most likely for entertainment purposes and not work related. My thoughts.

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    Espen Harlinn
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    Thanks for the link :-D

    Clark Kent123 wrote:

    he needs to do inventory practically every day

    You will not find me arguing that tablets/smartphones are useless, far from it - they are just getting a "tad" more attention then they deserve. I also feel that there are sides to the technologies, particularly in relation to security, that needs to mature. It's not that I find standards like WS-Security flawed, just that it's often not deployed properly. Not that this isn't a problem on the PC side, but the new os'es running on wireless devices are even harder to secure, or rather the communication between those devices and the servers - and IT departments are struggling to keep up. While it's possible to enable Kerberos, Digest and NTLM authentication for Chromium[^] - many IT departments are, appearantly, not aware of the feature.

    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

      Nope! Smart devices are for doing not-so-smart things.

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      Clifford Nelson
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      I have a friend that is after me because I do not have a smart phone. I look at the cost of data plans and figure I can do better things with that money. Of course there are times that it would be nice, but that would likely also mean that I would have to be able to find my reading glasses, and that seems problomatic. I hate having to wear glasses. Sucks getting old.

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        Rage wrote:

        Damn, where are these guys, then ?

        Oh, they went where the rails took them ...

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        Maybe in heaven?

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          I don't. I try to do as litle on my phone as possible.

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          Like that.

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          • C Clifford Nelson

            Maybe in heaven?

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            Espen Harlinn
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            Clifford Nelson wrote:

            Maybe in heaven?

            When you try walking on air, it may feel like that for a short while - who knows what happens afterwards ...

            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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            • E Espen Harlinn

              Maximilien wrote:

              The large majority

              Which majority is that? Most people are not carpenters, electricans, cooks, warehoude workers, etc. In our part of the world, most people shuffle papers, write reports, etc. the stuff that's called office work ...

              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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              Those are the lucky people that have reasonably well paying jobs. There are all the people that wait tables, bus boys, dish washers, sit around the airport with TSA on their uniforms, on in their car with "Police" on the outside, do deliveries, sales clerks... And of course the unemployed (I mean all unemployed, not just the few official unemployed, retired... Of course they do not get paid much, so the cell companies are taking a good chunk of thier paycheck to provide service for that smart device.

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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                Where is this 'large majority' hiding away? And what is that majority of work which doesn't require a computer, but can be done on a tablet or mobile phone?

                "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                wait tables, sales clerks, bank clerks, delivery, security... Of course some work with specialized devices, and do not otherwise need a computer except for personal needs.

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                • P Phil J Pearson

                  Espen Harlinn wrote:

                  Which shows that it's possible to do something on a tablet, but it is somewhat cumbersome, which is why you prefer working on a PC ...

                  That's not entirely true or fair. While I would prefer to be doing remote access (for example) from a PC I wouldn't want to hold my PC in front of a customer (while we stand on a factory floor) and try to draw on it with my finger. I don't try to do software development at all on my tablet. The devices have very different strengths and some area of overlap.

                  Phil


                  The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the author, especially if you find them impolite, inaccurate or inflammatory.

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                  Yes, but you would prefer to be able to use a real computer and order the person to your desk. Probably not practical though.

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                  • C Clifford Nelson

                    Those are the lucky people that have reasonably well paying jobs. There are all the people that wait tables, bus boys, dish washers, sit around the airport with TSA on their uniforms, on in their car with "Police" on the outside, do deliveries, sales clerks... And of course the unemployed (I mean all unemployed, not just the few official unemployed, retired... Of course they do not get paid much, so the cell companies are taking a good chunk of thier paycheck to provide service for that smart device.

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                    Clifford Nelson wrote:

                    Those are the lucky people that have reasonably well paying jobs.

                    Perhaps ...

                    Clifford Nelson wrote:

                    There are all the people that wait tables, bus boys, dish washers, sit around the airport with TSA on their uniforms, on in their car with "Police" on the outside, do deliveries, sales clerks...

                    Yes, you're right, that would also be occupations that could benefit from using a tablet based solution at work ...

                    Clifford Nelson wrote:

                    cell companies are taking a good chunk of thier paycheck to provide service for that smart device.

                    This will get you on the Internet Ubislate 7ci[^]

                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                    • E Espen Harlinn

                      Clifford Nelson wrote:

                      Those are the lucky people that have reasonably well paying jobs.

                      Perhaps ...

                      Clifford Nelson wrote:

                      There are all the people that wait tables, bus boys, dish washers, sit around the airport with TSA on their uniforms, on in their car with "Police" on the outside, do deliveries, sales clerks...

                      Yes, you're right, that would also be occupations that could benefit from using a tablet based solution at work ...

                      Clifford Nelson wrote:

                      cell companies are taking a good chunk of thier paycheck to provide service for that smart device.

                      This will get you on the Internet Ubislate 7ci[^]

                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                      These people have little need to have a general purpose computer as part of their jobs, but the internet is fairly important for everybody in their personal life for email, and to get information. It use to be that these people often had no access to an office phone, so were basically disconnected. For them cell phones have been great, especially if they have a job where they are mostly idle. Smart phones (and if they have space, a tablet), of course, give them even more connectivity for things like email. I do dancing, and some of the dj's use tablets, which works perfectly for that application also.

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                      • E Espen Harlinn

                        Clifford Nelson wrote:

                        Maybe in heaven?

                        When you try walking on air, it may feel like that for a short while - who knows what happens afterwards ...

                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                        True. The dead may dream, but they are not talking.

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                        • C Clifford Nelson

                          I have a friend that is after me because I do not have a smart phone. I look at the cost of data plans and figure I can do better things with that money. Of course there are times that it would be nice, but that would likely also mean that I would have to be able to find my reading glasses, and that seems problomatic. I hate having to wear glasses. Sucks getting old.

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          I actually got mine to show pictures of my son when he was born. Then I realized that checking my email, browsing the web, and using the GPS map were extremely useful. If you've lived without it, then you're doing alright.

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                          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                            I actually got mine to show pictures of my son when he was born. Then I realized that checking my email, browsing the web, and using the GPS map were extremely useful. If you've lived without it, then you're doing alright.

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                            I have to admit they are useful, and for all the reasons you mention. However, the cost is for service is high. It is amazing that you cannot get somebody to spend $500 ons something that will last for years, but are not as hesitant to purchase a service at $50 per month.

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                            • C Clifford Nelson

                              I have to admit they are useful, and for all the reasons you mention. However, the cost is for service is high. It is amazing that you cannot get somebody to spend $500 ons something that will last for years, but are not as hesitant to purchase a service at $50 per month.

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                              Bassam Abdul Baki
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                              People are willing to pay $50 to be screwed serviced each month. :)

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                              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                People are willing to pay $50 to be screwed serviced each month. :)

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                                Clifford Nelson
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                                Actually they pay a hell of a lot more. There are all the companies that are hitting consumers for monthly services, and then there are taxes. I really do not appreciate my good money being used for things I do not think neccessary. Some of this money is to overthrow foregin governments. I do not approve, so I figure I should not have to pay.

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