There are times when I feel like swearing at QA question posters.
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Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid.
What are we supposed to help stupid developers feel?
Cheees, Edo
Each other?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid.
What are we supposed to help stupid developers feel?
Cheees, Edo
Edo Tzumer wrote:
What are we supposed to help stupid developers feel?
The idea is that we do not "rush to judgement" that anyone asking a question is less than intelligent because of the way they write in English, which may not be their mother-tongue, or, which, they may have a very low-level mastery of. Personally, I'd like to think that, to the extent I can, I can help a questioner feel accepted, and welcome to CP, while also addressing the technical issue at hand. If a question on QA, causes a negative emotional reaction in you, and you feel like responding with a "negative intent:" it's probably better you don't respond at all, but examine what in yourself your emotional reaction is about. That "benefit of the doubt" principle does not stop you from writing a response to the OP that you can't understand what they are asking about, which can be done in an "emotionally neutral" way. In my mind, it also doesn't preclude confrontation: several times I've finally responded, to an OP, that obviously just "didn't get it," because they had no real "fundamental grounding" in C#, that they need to get a good book on C#, and get a fundamental grounding: that their question, and their responses to comments, and answers given, indicates they are so confused that they need review the basics. I feel much more like cursing one of the answerers (a veritable answering-machine with an inexhaustible repertoire of off-topic and self-glorifying digressions and obfuscations) on QA, than I do the questioners :) yrs, Bill
“Thus on many occasions man divides himself into two persons, one who tries to fool the other, while a third, who in fact is the same as the other two, is filled with wonder at this confusion. Thinking becomes dramatic, and acts out the most complicated plots within itself, and, spectator, again, and again, becomes: actor.” From a book by the Danish writer, Paul Moller, which was a favorite of Niels Bohr.
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Make like the cat to calm you down and then stroke some coffee. The level number and type of questions in QA does seem to come and go in patches. Lately there have been very few serious C++ questions I could answer with less than a half day of research. Previously there were loads but the dribble of idiot questions is rather constant. I answered one guy seeking a test case for his cod with a reciepe for fish and chips, he seemed quite happy. :wtf:
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
I answered one guy seeking a test case for his cod with a reciepe for fish and chips, he seemed quite happy.
Delightful ! thanks, Bill
“Thus on many occasions man divides himself into two persons, one who tries to fool the other, while a third, who in fact is the same as the other two, is filled with wonder at this confusion. Thinking becomes dramatic, and acts out the most complicated plots within itself, and, spectator, again, and again, becomes: actor.” From a book by the Danish writer, Paul Moller, which was a favorite of Niels Bohr.
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Edo Tzumer wrote:
What are we supposed to help stupid developers feel?
The idea is that we do not "rush to judgement" that anyone asking a question is less than intelligent because of the way they write in English, which may not be their mother-tongue, or, which, they may have a very low-level mastery of. Personally, I'd like to think that, to the extent I can, I can help a questioner feel accepted, and welcome to CP, while also addressing the technical issue at hand. If a question on QA, causes a negative emotional reaction in you, and you feel like responding with a "negative intent:" it's probably better you don't respond at all, but examine what in yourself your emotional reaction is about. That "benefit of the doubt" principle does not stop you from writing a response to the OP that you can't understand what they are asking about, which can be done in an "emotionally neutral" way. In my mind, it also doesn't preclude confrontation: several times I've finally responded, to an OP, that obviously just "didn't get it," because they had no real "fundamental grounding" in C#, that they need to get a good book on C#, and get a fundamental grounding: that their question, and their responses to comments, and answers given, indicates they are so confused that they need review the basics. I feel much more like cursing one of the answerers (a veritable answering-machine with an inexhaustible repertoire of off-topic and self-glorifying digressions and obfuscations) on QA, than I do the questioners :) yrs, Bill
“Thus on many occasions man divides himself into two persons, one who tries to fool the other, while a third, who in fact is the same as the other two, is filled with wonder at this confusion. Thinking becomes dramatic, and acts out the most complicated plots within itself, and, spectator, again, and again, becomes: actor.” From a book by the Danish writer, Paul Moller, which was a favorite of Niels Bohr.
BillWoodruff wrote:
I feel much more like cursing one of the answerers (a veritable answering-machine with an inexhaustible repertoire of off-topic and self-glorifying digressions and obfuscations) on QA, than I do the questioners
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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I initially came to the US on an H-1B, so yes :-O . Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
Enhance your calm. Enhance your calm... Who am I kidding. When I come across questions like that, I run screaming out of the QA area. Usually there is nobody around, so I don't know if I am actually making a sound :^) . Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I know and I am still with the same company. I actually got picked in the Green Card Lottery shortly after I got here. I had been sending in those applications for a couple of years and was surprised to actually have it fall into my lap. Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I know and I am still with the same company. I actually got picked in the Green Card Lottery shortly after I got here. I had been sending in those applications for a couple of years and was surprised to actually have it fall into my lap. Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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That's pretty awesome. Glad you got a green card, as the temp work visa can seem more like indentured servitude. I'm the son of an immigrant myself.
There is no doubt the company (the owner, really) took advantage of this and gave me a starting salary well below what it should have been. It took me about 7 years to climb that salary ladder to a point where I thought I should be. Fortunately, he is not the owner any longer :-\ . Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
OriginalGriff wrote:
stroke the cat
if that's a euphemism, I'd go for that option ;)
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