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  • D DanielSheets

    This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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    Lost User
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    DanielSheets wrote:

    It can make for cleaner code if used correctly.

    Your definition of "cleaner code" is quite odd then. There is no "correct" usage of it in modern high level languages. It simply creates an unmaintainable ball of string.

    Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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    • D DanielSheets

      This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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      Lost User
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      DanielSheets wrote:

      I find it useful

      I am not ashamed to admit that I use it all the time. I goto the store I goto the bar I goto the office. Many other uses too :-)

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      • D DanielSheets

        This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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        Andrew Torrance
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        If we are talking of C# then I cant think of a time I would ever use it , although I am somewhat biased as I have told everyone in my team that I would slaughter a family member if I ever found it in any code .

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        • D DanielSheets

          This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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          Chris Maunder
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          In SQL - fairly often to jump to the error handler at the end of our sprocs. I'll admit there's no good reason we do this, since it's easy enough for us to avoid this with if statements, but it's a pattern used in our original code and so for consistency we stuck with it:

          Create Procedure MyProc as

          Begin Tran
          
          -- Do stuff...
          
          if @@error <> 0 goto errorHandler
          
          Commit Tran
          Return 0
          

          errorHandler:
          Rollback Tran
          Return 1

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          • D DanielSheets

            This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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            Lost User
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            Who uses it?

            N00bs.

            DanielSheets wrote:

            It can make for cleaner code if used correctly.

            Do you have an example? After years in the trade, I have still to see the first instance where it actually improves readability/maintainability.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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            • C Chris Maunder

              In SQL - fairly often to jump to the error handler at the end of our sprocs. I'll admit there's no good reason we do this, since it's easy enough for us to avoid this with if statements, but it's a pattern used in our original code and so for consistency we stuck with it:

              Create Procedure MyProc as

              Begin Tran
              
              -- Do stuff...
              
              if @@error <> 0 goto errorHandler
              
              Commit Tran
              Return 0
              

              errorHandler:
              Rollback Tran
              Return 1

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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              burn the heretic

              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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              • D DanielSheets

                This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                dusty_dex
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                Not without being forced to. Futzing around with an old 8-bit BASIC - ATARI. It was a shockingly poor implementation of the language. Otherwise I can't recall using goto in any C-like language at all. ever!

                Q. Hey man! have you sorted out the finite soup machine? A. Why yes, it's celery or tomato.

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                • L Lost User

                  DanielSheets wrote:

                  I find it useful

                  I am not ashamed to admit that I use it all the time. I goto the store I goto the bar I goto the office. Many other uses too :-)

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                  BobJanova
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                  Isyourspacebarfaulty? 'Go to' is two words.

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                  • D DanielSheets

                    This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                    BobJanova
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                    I don't use it in high level languages where there is a structured alternative. The only time I'm tempted is the 'double break', i.e. wanting to escape from two levels of nested looping; to do this you have to create a method to do the double loop and use return, which often feels like overkill.

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                    • D DanielSheets

                      This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      I have used it for some lazy error handling.

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                      • L Lost User

                        Who uses it?

                        N00bs.

                        DanielSheets wrote:

                        It can make for cleaner code if used correctly.

                        Do you have an example? After years in the trade, I have still to see the first instance where it actually improves readability/maintainability.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                        DanielSheets
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                            public static void SaveChartData(List dataList)
                            {
                                int totalDelays = 0;
                                int value = 0;
                                string errorString = "";
                                // Use a temporary file in case there are any parse errors.
                                string tmpFilePath = applicationPath + "TmpChartData.csv";
                                using (StreamWriter sw = new StreamWriter(tmpFilePath))
                                {
                                    foreach (DataGridClass dgc in dataList)
                                    {
                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.MATL.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.MATL), out value))
                                        {
                                            errorString = dgc.MATL;
                                            goto ParseError;
                                        }
                                        totalDelays += value;
                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.EQUIP.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.EQUIP), out value))
                                        {
                                            errorString = dgc.EQUIP;
                                            goto ParseError;
                                        }
                                        totalDelays += value;
                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.People.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.People), out value))
                                        {
                                            errorString = dgc.People;
                                            goto ParseError;
                                        }
                                        totalDelays += value;
                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.Defects.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.Defects), out value))
                                        {
                                            errorString = dgc.Defects;
                                            goto ParseError;
                                        }
                                        totalDelays += value;
                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.Other.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.Other), out value))
                                        {
                                            errorString = dgc.Other;
                                            goto ParseError;
                                        }
                                        totalDelays += value;
                                        sw.WriteLine("{0},{1},{2},{3},{4},{5},{6},{7},{8},{9},{10}",
                                            dgc.Year, dgc.Month, dgc.Goal, dgc.Completions, totalDelays, dgc.to,
                                            dgc.MATL, dgc.EQUIP, dgc.People, dgc.Defects, dgc.Other);
                        
                                        totalDelays = 0;
                                        value = 0;
                                    }
                                }
                                // If we got this far then there were no parse errors.
                                File.Copy(tmpFilePath, chartData, true);
                                return;
                            ParseError:
                                string msg = string.Format("Unable to parse data. Verify its entered correctly.\\r\\nValue = {0}", errorString);
                                MessageBox.Sho
                        
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                        • L Lost User

                          Who uses it?

                          N00bs.

                          DanielSheets wrote:

                          It can make for cleaner code if used correctly.

                          Do you have an example? After years in the trade, I have still to see the first instance where it actually improves readability/maintainability.

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                          Mauro Leggieri
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                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                          Do you have an example? After years in the trade, I have still to see the first instance where it actually improves readability/maintainability.

                          Hi, In C/C++ for e.g. in a switch statement where you must share some portion of code. Although one can put that shared part inside another function, for visibility & tracking purposes, some times is better to have the code in the same screen avoiding scrolling up and down to follow the code. Believe it, is real but I cannot show company code. I don't remember which old Pascal guru told that but sometimes a goto is preferable instead of doing a lot of work to avoid its usage and make the code difficult to read. For the other side, as an assembly programmer... I see JMPs everywhere hehehe. Regards, Mauro.

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                                public static void SaveChartData(List dataList)
                                {
                                    int totalDelays = 0;
                                    int value = 0;
                                    string errorString = "";
                                    // Use a temporary file in case there are any parse errors.
                                    string tmpFilePath = applicationPath + "TmpChartData.csv";
                                    using (StreamWriter sw = new StreamWriter(tmpFilePath))
                                    {
                                        foreach (DataGridClass dgc in dataList)
                                        {
                                            if (!int.TryParse((dgc.MATL.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.MATL), out value))
                                            {
                                                errorString = dgc.MATL;
                                                goto ParseError;
                                            }
                                            totalDelays += value;
                                            if (!int.TryParse((dgc.EQUIP.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.EQUIP), out value))
                                            {
                                                errorString = dgc.EQUIP;
                                                goto ParseError;
                                            }
                                            totalDelays += value;
                                            if (!int.TryParse((dgc.People.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.People), out value))
                                            {
                                                errorString = dgc.People;
                                                goto ParseError;
                                            }
                                            totalDelays += value;
                                            if (!int.TryParse((dgc.Defects.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.Defects), out value))
                                            {
                                                errorString = dgc.Defects;
                                                goto ParseError;
                                            }
                                            totalDelays += value;
                                            if (!int.TryParse((dgc.Other.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.Other), out value))
                                            {
                                                errorString = dgc.Other;
                                                goto ParseError;
                                            }
                                            totalDelays += value;
                                            sw.WriteLine("{0},{1},{2},{3},{4},{5},{6},{7},{8},{9},{10}",
                                                dgc.Year, dgc.Month, dgc.Goal, dgc.Completions, totalDelays, dgc.to,
                                                dgc.MATL, dgc.EQUIP, dgc.People, dgc.Defects, dgc.Other);
                            
                                            totalDelays = 0;
                                            value = 0;
                                        }
                                    }
                                    // If we got this far then there were no parse errors.
                                    File.Copy(tmpFilePath, chartData, true);
                                    return;
                                ParseError:
                                    string msg = string.Format("Unable to parse data. Verify its entered correctly.\\r\\nValue = {0}", errorString);
                                    MessageBox.Sho
                            
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                            Lost User
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                            Read up on exception-handling.

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                            • L Lost User

                              Who uses it?

                              N00bs.

                              DanielSheets wrote:

                              It can make for cleaner code if used correctly.

                              Do you have an example? After years in the trade, I have still to see the first instance where it actually improves readability/maintainability.

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                              DanielSheets
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                              Its all relative I suppose.

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                              • M Mauro Leggieri

                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                Do you have an example? After years in the trade, I have still to see the first instance where it actually improves readability/maintainability.

                                Hi, In C/C++ for e.g. in a switch statement where you must share some portion of code. Although one can put that shared part inside another function, for visibility & tracking purposes, some times is better to have the code in the same screen avoiding scrolling up and down to follow the code. Believe it, is real but I cannot show company code. I don't remember which old Pascal guru told that but sometimes a goto is preferable instead of doing a lot of work to avoid its usage and make the code difficult to read. For the other side, as an assembly programmer... I see JMPs everywhere hehehe. Regards, Mauro.

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                                Lost User
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                                Mauro Leggieri wrote:

                                For the other side, as an assembly programmer... I see JMPs everywhere hehehe.

                                ..simply because there's little alternative in assembly. Assumed we weren't talking about assembly, but higher-level languages - there are few people still working professionally with assembly.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                  Read up on exception-handling.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                  DanielSheets
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                                  For what part? Why would I need to use exception handling when thats exactly what TryParse is used for (assuming thats what you're talking about)?

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                                  • D DanielSheets

                                    This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                                    wizardzz
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                                    Use it in .bat files all the time.

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                                    • D DanielSheets

                                      This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                                      lewax00
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                                      I've using one while I test some timeout code on a function, but I'll refactor it out before I commit it. Just nice to see the whole process at once for now (and I can make sure it works before I spend time figuring out exactly how to best cleanup before cancelling it).

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                                      • D DanielSheets
                                            public static void SaveChartData(List dataList)
                                            {
                                                int totalDelays = 0;
                                                int value = 0;
                                                string errorString = "";
                                                // Use a temporary file in case there are any parse errors.
                                                string tmpFilePath = applicationPath + "TmpChartData.csv";
                                                using (StreamWriter sw = new StreamWriter(tmpFilePath))
                                                {
                                                    foreach (DataGridClass dgc in dataList)
                                                    {
                                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.MATL.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.MATL), out value))
                                                        {
                                                            errorString = dgc.MATL;
                                                            goto ParseError;
                                                        }
                                                        totalDelays += value;
                                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.EQUIP.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.EQUIP), out value))
                                                        {
                                                            errorString = dgc.EQUIP;
                                                            goto ParseError;
                                                        }
                                                        totalDelays += value;
                                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.People.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.People), out value))
                                                        {
                                                            errorString = dgc.People;
                                                            goto ParseError;
                                                        }
                                                        totalDelays += value;
                                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.Defects.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.Defects), out value))
                                                        {
                                                            errorString = dgc.Defects;
                                                            goto ParseError;
                                                        }
                                                        totalDelays += value;
                                                        if (!int.TryParse((dgc.Other.Equals("") ? "0" : dgc.Other), out value))
                                                        {
                                                            errorString = dgc.Other;
                                                            goto ParseError;
                                                        }
                                                        totalDelays += value;
                                                        sw.WriteLine("{0},{1},{2},{3},{4},{5},{6},{7},{8},{9},{10}",
                                                            dgc.Year, dgc.Month, dgc.Goal, dgc.Completions, totalDelays, dgc.to,
                                                            dgc.MATL, dgc.EQUIP, dgc.People, dgc.Defects, dgc.Other);
                                        
                                                        totalDelays = 0;
                                                        value = 0;
                                                    }
                                                }
                                                // If we got this far then there were no parse errors.
                                                File.Copy(tmpFilePath, chartData, true);
                                                return;
                                            ParseError:
                                                string msg = string.Format("Unable to parse data. Verify its entered correctly.\\r\\nValue = {0}", errorString);
                                                MessageBox.Sho
                                        
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                                        BobJanova
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                                        #23

                                        That's horrible. Repeated code, and mixing of data management and UI code. It's crying out for throwing exceptions which you catch in the UI code, and a method

                                        int parseNumericValue(String text){
                                        int result;
                                        if(!int.TryParse(text == "" ? "0" : text, out result))
                                        throw new DataFormatException("Unable to parse data. Verify its entered correctly.\r\nValue = "+text);
                                        return result;
                                        }

                                        (and that's if the default exception from Parse doesn't do the job which it probably does). This is translated VB. And that's not a good thing.

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          In SQL - fairly often to jump to the error handler at the end of our sprocs. I'll admit there's no good reason we do this, since it's easy enough for us to avoid this with if statements, but it's a pattern used in our original code and so for consistency we stuck with it:

                                          Create Procedure MyProc as

                                          Begin Tran
                                          
                                          -- Do stuff...
                                          
                                          if @@error <> 0 goto errorHandler
                                          
                                          Commit Tran
                                          Return 0
                                          

                                          errorHandler:
                                          Rollback Tran
                                          Return 1

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          GuyThiebaut
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                                          That's a pattern I have come across in Oracle PL/SQL and it does the job well. Of course one can use an if, as you mention, but if it is used judiciously it works well and does not break the logic any more than an else does.

                                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                          ― Christopher Hitchens

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