Will All Technology On Earth Fail At Once? Will The Public All Over The World Panic?
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So apparently NASA says that a powerful solar storm or flare will engulf the Earth, this will generate powerful radiation fields that will devastate and destroy all electronics in the world. Throwing us back into the stone age, here's the link to the document: NASA Predicts Massive Solar Flare For 2013 - Should We Worry?
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The polarity of the charged particles makes a big difference to the how much of the Earth's magnetic field gets hammered. The power grid is at risk but they do monitor these sorts of solar events, and instead of shutting parts of the grid down they open it up to spread the surges. If it bothers you that much, you can monitor swpc.noaa.gov
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So apparently NASA says that a powerful solar storm or flare will engulf the Earth, this will generate powerful radiation fields that will devastate and destroy all electronics in the world. Throwing us back into the stone age, here's the link to the document: NASA Predicts Massive Solar Flare For 2013 - Should We Worry?
Simple Thanks and Regards, Brandon T. H. Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst). Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
Never, If you see the history of human beings there are many pit falls came and gone. I think it will be the opportunity to sharp our technology if any struggle comes. men will find the way to come up all of these.
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So apparently NASA says that a powerful solar storm or flare will engulf the Earth, this will generate powerful radiation fields that will devastate and destroy all electronics in the world. Throwing us back into the stone age, here's the link to the document: NASA Predicts Massive Solar Flare For 2013 - Should We Worry?
Simple Thanks and Regards, Brandon T. H. Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst). Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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I saw that movie signs, with Nickolas Cage, just grab a case of vodka and watch the fireworks. The Hopi Indians version of how the earth was created included the 1st generation of man being wiped out by a solar flare, but the ant people and spider women saved thousands of humans in the deserts of Egypt by taking them underground. God said he would create 7 versions of man kind, and then give up. The full story is that god came in a spaceship with spider women and the ant people, and searched for a planet to create life on, he found 2, mars and earth, and created life on both planets. Mars required little effort, but the earth was wobbling around the sun, so he commanded spider-women to fix it, so she create the pyramids to act as weights like on a tire to smooth the wobble. But that wasn't enough, so she created the twins, 2 polar ice caps to fine tune the earths rotation. the ant people live underground, protected by flood and solar storms, and created cities beneath the surface. They act as protectors of man-kind, to populate the earth for the next version. We are the 4th generation of man kind, and our fate is written in the bible, to be repeated over and over. I don't subscribe to the doom and gloom that the left promotes to us anymore, but I am prepared to defend my home. I've been hearing this for over 50 years now. I just reiterating a story told for thousands of years, make what you want out of it, I'm sure most are laughing hard at this moment. Perhaps read up on it, and do a little research. Not quite what I was looking for, but close to it. http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword16j.htm [Edit] This is closer to to first time I heard the story, when god create 4 versions of man kind [Hopi Creation Myth]
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Brandon-X12000 wrote:
this will generate powerful radiation fields that will devastate and destroy all electronics in the world. Throwing us back into the stone age
The stone age ended when the integrated circuit was invented? That's news to me.
lewax00 wrote:
The stone age ended when the integrated circuit was invented? That's news to me.
The failure of all electronics would revert the industrialized world to a pre-feudal society because basic necessities like food/clothing/heat are now completely dependent on electronics. The chaos from those lacks would impact any small attempts to organize. There are probably some places in the world where it would have less impact however those have little capability for providing and recovery and that presumes that they would not be overrun by neighbors that are not as capable of continuing.
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lewax00 wrote:
The stone age ended when the integrated circuit was invented? That's news to me.
The failure of all electronics would revert the industrialized world to a pre-feudal society because basic necessities like food/clothing/heat are now completely dependent on electronics. The chaos from those lacks would impact any small attempts to organize. There are probably some places in the world where it would have less impact however those have little capability for providing and recovery and that presumes that they would not be overrun by neighbors that are not as capable of continuing.
I'm not saying the impact wouldn't be catastrophic, just that the stone age is a little too far of a reversion. And in this case, most of the knowledge of how to build things isn't lost (unless someone goes on a book burning crusade of course), even if it isn't immediately useful.
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lewax00 wrote:
The stone age ended when the integrated circuit was invented? That's news to me.
The failure of all electronics would revert the industrialized world to a pre-feudal society because basic necessities like food/clothing/heat are now completely dependent on electronics. The chaos from those lacks would impact any small attempts to organize. There are probably some places in the world where it would have less impact however those have little capability for providing and recovery and that presumes that they would not be overrun by neighbors that are not as capable of continuing.
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So apparently NASA says that a powerful solar storm or flare will engulf the Earth, this will generate powerful radiation fields that will devastate and destroy all electronics in the world. Throwing us back into the stone age, here's the link to the document: NASA Predicts Massive Solar Flare For 2013 - Should We Worry?
Simple Thanks and Regards, Brandon T. H. Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst). Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
When the first paragraph of an *Important Message* contains something like "electronic devises", I immediately start to wonder if I should bother reading the rest.
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So apparently NASA says that a powerful solar storm or flare will engulf the Earth, this will generate powerful radiation fields that will devastate and destroy all electronics in the world. Throwing us back into the stone age, here's the link to the document: NASA Predicts Massive Solar Flare For 2013 - Should We Worry?
Simple Thanks and Regards, Brandon T. H. Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst). Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
Damn! My prediction that 21st December 2012 would mark the end of idiots posting ridiculous crap about the 2012 Mayan Apocalypse seems to have been wrong. X|
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jkirkerx wrote:
The full story is that god came in a spaceship
I wonder why god needed a spaceship?
That is strange isn't it. That's how the story was told to me when I did a job in northern Arizona, perhaps it made it more interesting. As far as solar flares hitting the earth, it's happened once, but I guess It's like dodging asteroids, just got to be lucky during our lifetime.
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I'm not saying the impact wouldn't be catastrophic, just that the stone age is a little too far of a reversion. And in this case, most of the knowledge of how to build things isn't lost (unless someone goes on a book burning crusade of course), even if it isn't immediately useful.
lewax00 wrote:
And in this case, most of the knowledge of how to build things isn't lost
That supposition is basically incorrect. One can suppose that in a large library there is one single book that tells one how to make iron using basic materials. (Why iron? Because is it easier to make than steel.) But then one must find the other books that tells one how to get the basic materials. And finding the books without a knowledgeable (perhaps a bit fanatic) librarian would require a manual search because the card catalog is electronic. And that is only one single item. There is the simplistic view that one could use existing resources until industry is restored but that ignores the reality of the overall survival situation. 1. One must manage to survive (food, heat, medical, etc) 2. The group survived in must be able to support workers doing the building (living day to day is not sufficient to provide incentive to seek long term goals.) 3. Books are not necessarily sufficient to actually produce something - practical versus theoretical. 4. There will likely be other groups seeking goals that oppose the initial group
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wizardzz wrote:
The world was pretty industrialized before electricity. IE: The first industrial revolution.
Ignition of combustion engines can be driven by compression, not just spark.I understand that. However the period you are referring to was represented by a fairly stable society which had evolved over a long period of time. And the technology of that time existed because of a large array of interconnected micro-economies. Without those the technology of that time would not have succeeded either. And the knowledge base of that time was sufficient to create those technologies. The knowledge base now is specifically not suited to creating that stuff.
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wizardzz wrote:
The world was pretty industrialized before electricity. IE: The first industrial revolution.
Ignition of combustion engines can be driven by compression, not just spark.I understand that. However the period you are referring to was represented by a fairly stable society which had evolved over a long period of time. And the technology of that time existed because of a large array of interconnected micro-economies. Without those the technology of that time would not have succeeded either. And the knowledge base of that time was sufficient to create those technologies. The knowledge base now is specifically not suited to creating that stuff.
I see your point, but people can still grow food, transport it, and sell it without going back to the stone age.
jschell wrote:
And the knowledge base of that time was sufficient to create those technologies. The knowledge base now is specifically not suited to creating that stuff.
If we are talking about the masses, I think the knowledge base now is not suited to creating much of anything. The Amish will set back and laugh, assuming they are well armed.
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lewax00 wrote:
And in this case, most of the knowledge of how to build things isn't lost
That supposition is basically incorrect. One can suppose that in a large library there is one single book that tells one how to make iron using basic materials. (Why iron? Because is it easier to make than steel.) But then one must find the other books that tells one how to get the basic materials. And finding the books without a knowledgeable (perhaps a bit fanatic) librarian would require a manual search because the card catalog is electronic. And that is only one single item. There is the simplistic view that one could use existing resources until industry is restored but that ignores the reality of the overall survival situation. 1. One must manage to survive (food, heat, medical, etc) 2. The group survived in must be able to support workers doing the building (living day to day is not sufficient to provide incentive to seek long term goals.) 3. Books are not necessarily sufficient to actually produce something - practical versus theoretical. 4. There will likely be other groups seeking goals that oppose the initial group
Like I said, it might not be immediately useful. But it is still there, if people are willing to make the effort. And it's still probably a lot faster than reinventing it.
jschell wrote:
would require a manual search because the card catalog is electronic
Most libraries I've been to still have physical card catalogs in addition to the electronic ones. It might only contain entries before a certain date if the electronic one is treated as a replacement instead of a supplement, but many of the books will still be there, especially reference type books like the ones relevant here which aren't replaced often.
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Damn! My prediction that 21st December 2012 would mark the end of idiots posting ridiculous crap about the 2012 Mayan Apocalypse seems to have been wrong. X|
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Simple Thanks and Regards, Brandon T. H. Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst). Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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I see your point, but people can still grow food, transport it, and sell it without going back to the stone age.
jschell wrote:
And the knowledge base of that time was sufficient to create those technologies. The knowledge base now is specifically not suited to creating that stuff.
If we are talking about the masses, I think the knowledge base now is not suited to creating much of anything. The Amish will set back and laugh, assuming they are well armed.
wizardzz wrote:
I see your point, but people can still grow food, transport it, and sell it without going back to the stone age.
What people can do at what people will do are two different things. 'Civilization' is based on the ability to produce excess. One can spend time sitting in an office because somewhere there is a easy way to produce a vast excess of the essentials of life for the vast majority of the population. When there is no excess or realistically a vast shortage then priorities change.
wizardzz wrote:
, I think the knowledge base now is not suited to creating much of anything.
Of course it is. Creation occurs now based on the current knowledge base. Which is no different from the period you referred to.
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wizardzz wrote:
I see your point, but people can still grow food, transport it, and sell it without going back to the stone age.
What people can do at what people will do are two different things. 'Civilization' is based on the ability to produce excess. One can spend time sitting in an office because somewhere there is a easy way to produce a vast excess of the essentials of life for the vast majority of the population. When there is no excess or realistically a vast shortage then priorities change.
wizardzz wrote:
, I think the knowledge base now is not suited to creating much of anything.
Of course it is. Creation occurs now based on the current knowledge base. Which is no different from the period you referred to.
jschell wrote:
wizardzz wrote:
, I think the knowledge base now is not suited to creating much of anything.
Of course it is. Creation occurs now based on the current knowledge base. Which is no different from the period you referred to.
Why did you selectively quote my last sentence to suite your view? Ignoring the qualifier changes the meaning. Incredibly rude.
