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    Rage
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    ... why do you insist in having a navigation bar AND a search bar :sigh: ? This is so '2000ish ( And I am usually not of the kind who would complain that there are too many bars, but ...). Furthermore, a navigation bar that throws you a popup error window ! This is even '1990ish.

    ~RaGE();

    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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      ... why do you insist in having a navigation bar AND a search bar :sigh: ? This is so '2000ish ( And I am usually not of the kind who would complain that there are too many bars, but ...). Furthermore, a navigation bar that throws you a popup error window ! This is even '1990ish.

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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      Lost User
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      Protip: you can associate bookmarks with keywords[^] so you can type, for example "g something" in the navigation bar, and it will search on google. Much better, imo, than having an ambiguous "maybe it will navigate, maybe it will search, you'll never know" sort of bar.

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        ... why do you insist in having a navigation bar AND a search bar :sigh: ? This is so '2000ish ( And I am usually not of the kind who would complain that there are too many bars, but ...). Furthermore, a navigation bar that throws you a popup error window ! This is even '1990ish.

        ~RaGE();

        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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        What I like about the search bar is, how you can add in other search providers. For example, you can set Code Project as the search provider. But of more use I can set the knowledge base of some software that I use a lot, and it will return hits just from that. Of course I could probably achieve the same thing by typing cunning stuff into the one area, but I like it this way.

        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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          Protip: you can associate bookmarks with keywords[^] so you can type, for example "g something" in the navigation bar, and it will search on google. Much better, imo, than having an ambiguous "maybe it will navigate, maybe it will search, you'll never know" sort of bar.

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          Rage
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          harold aptroot wrote:

          ambiguous

          This is how chrome is behaving, and I find it simply awesome. I don't even see in which case there could be any ambiguity: navigate, until it is no URL, then search for it. For the rare occasions when it fails, you are only one click away from your initial intention...

          ~RaGE();

          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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            What I like about the search bar is, how you can add in other search providers. For example, you can set Code Project as the search provider. But of more use I can set the knowledge base of some software that I use a lot, and it will return hits just from that. Of course I could probably achieve the same thing by typing cunning stuff into the one area, but I like it this way.

            “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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            Rage
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            ChrisElston wrote:

            other search providers

            Ok, I forgot there are google alternatives.

            ChrisElston wrote:

            can set the knowledge base of some software that I use a lot,

            This sounds :cool: How does it work ? Is the KB some kind of local archive ? Or a website ?

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              harold aptroot wrote:

              ambiguous

              This is how chrome is behaving, and I find it simply awesome. I don't even see in which case there could be any ambiguity: navigate, until it is no URL, then search for it. For the rare occasions when it fails, you are only one click away from your initial intention...

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              One case that annoys me is that I often want to google an url before deciding to navigate to it, how can you do that on Chrome? Obviously you can go to google.com and do it there, but that's a bit of a detour.

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                ... why do you insist in having a navigation bar AND a search bar :sigh: ? This is so '2000ish ( And I am usually not of the kind who would complain that there are too many bars, but ...). Furthermore, a navigation bar that throws you a popup error window ! This is even '1990ish.

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                Firefox is '2000ish. Anything else I can help you with. :)

                "The ones who care enough to do it right care too much to compromise." Matthew Faithfull

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                  One case that annoys me is that I often want to google an url before deciding to navigate to it, how can you do that on Chrome? Obviously you can go to google.com and do it there, but that's a bit of a detour.

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                  Rage
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                  I don't know. But I never do that, so it fits my needs. :rolleyes:

                  ~RaGE();

                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                    ChrisElston wrote:

                    other search providers

                    Ok, I forgot there are google alternatives.

                    ChrisElston wrote:

                    can set the knowledge base of some software that I use a lot,

                    This sounds :cool: How does it work ? Is the KB some kind of local archive ? Or a website ?

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                    Yeah, it is a website. It is just really useful to select it in the drop down and search for a string. Not sure how they've done it, cos actually using the website is a complete pita, you cannot book mark the knowledge base, you have to jump through a series of hoops, and log in at one point, a log in that refuses to remember either my username or password.

                    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                      ... why do you insist in having a navigation bar AND a search bar :sigh: ? This is so '2000ish ( And I am usually not of the kind who would complain that there are too many bars, but ...). Furthermore, a navigation bar that throws you a popup error window ! This is even '1990ish.

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                      Dan Neely
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                      Because sending everything you type to Google when you want a Google search is a UX optimization; sending every URL you type to Google as you type it is a privacy violation. Having to remember to type a prefix before every search so that it goes to Google for auto suggest while keeping URL autocomplete local is a UX degradation.

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                        ... why do you insist in having a navigation bar AND a search bar :sigh: ? This is so '2000ish ( And I am usually not of the kind who would complain that there are too many bars, but ...). Furthermore, a navigation bar that throws you a popup error window ! This is even '1990ish.

                        ~RaGE();

                        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                        Rage wrote:

                        .. why do you insist in having a navigation bar AND a search bar :sigh: ? This is so '2000ish

                        Dear Rage, Why do you insist on using a browser that is so 2000'ish. Use Chrome like the rest of us :)

                        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                          Rage wrote:

                          .. why do you insist in having a navigation bar AND a search bar :sigh: ? This is so '2000ish

                          Dear Rage, Why do you insist on using a browser that is so 2000'ish. Use Chrome like the rest of us :)

                          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                          I am a happy Chrome user. At home. My employer is stuck at Firefox. 10.3. X|

                          ~RaGE();

                          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                            Because sending everything you type to Google when you want a Google search is a UX optimization; sending every URL you type to Google as you type it is a privacy violation. Having to remember to type a prefix before every search so that it goes to Google for auto suggest while keeping URL autocomplete local is a UX degradation.

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            Dan Neely wrote:

                            is a privacy violation

                            Unless you agree to. Actually, I agree to, because it makes my life simpler.

                            Dan Neely wrote:

                            Having to remember to type a prefix before every search so that it goes to Google for auto suggest while keeping URL autocomplete local

                            * cough * What ? :doh:

                            ~RaGE();

                            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                              I am a happy Chrome user. At home. My employer is stuck at Firefox. 10.3. X|

                              ~RaGE();

                              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                              Yeah my employer is "stuck at IE8" :rolleyes: But that's OK. I am a smart chap and IT has may run things somewhat strict, it is not a total police state 'round here :)

                              Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                One case that annoys me is that I often want to google an url before deciding to navigate to it, how can you do that on Chrome? Obviously you can go to google.com and do it there, but that's a bit of a detour.

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                                Pete Schultz
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                                harold aptroot wrote:

                                One case that annoys me is that I often want to google an url before deciding to navigate to it, how can you do that on Chrome? Obviously you can go to google.com and do it there, but that's a bit of a detour.

                                Type a question mark before the url (or hit Ctrl+k) and it should search for it.

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                                  I am a happy Chrome user. At home. My employer is stuck at Firefox. 10.3. X|

                                  ~RaGE();

                                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                                  Get a portable version of chrome and copy to your desktop. (or leave on usb stick) If no usb allowed, send via email. Works for me on totally locked down public computers. I just open the usb with linux when I get home to make sure it didn't bring a virus home with me.

                                  Make it work. Then do it better - Andrei Straut

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                                    harold aptroot wrote:

                                    One case that annoys me is that I often want to google an url before deciding to navigate to it, how can you do that on Chrome? Obviously you can go to google.com and do it there, but that's a bit of a detour.

                                    Type a question mark before the url (or hit Ctrl+k) and it should search for it.

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Thanks for the tip :thumbsup:

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                                      Because sending everything you type to Google when you want a Google search is a UX optimization; sending every URL you type to Google as you type it is a privacy violation. Having to remember to type a prefix before every search so that it goes to Google for auto suggest while keeping URL autocomplete local is a UX degradation.

                                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                      BobJanova
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                                      Sending what you type as you type it, and URLs you navigate to, to Google is an option in Chrome; if you don't like it, turn it off (I have). It's still a much neater UI to have 'type stuff here and I'll work it out', as long as it gets it right 99% of the time, which it does (because URLs are pretty each to recognise).

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                                        Dan Neely wrote:

                                        is a privacy violation

                                        Unless you agree to. Actually, I agree to, because it makes my life simpler.

                                        Dan Neely wrote:

                                        Having to remember to type a prefix before every search so that it goes to Google for auto suggest while keeping URL autocomplete local

                                        * cough * What ? :doh:

                                        ~RaGE();

                                        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                                        Rage wrote:

                                        Dan Neely wrote:

                                        Having to remember to type a prefix before every search so that it goes to Google for auto suggest while keeping URL autocomplete local

                                        * cough * What ?

                                        That was to head off the person who would have replied with "You can configure your browser to only send text to Google for search auto complete if you prefix your query in the unified address/search box with 'g ' (and 'a ' for amazon, etc)" because I don't consider it an acceptable option on anything with a usably large screen.

                                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                          Sending what you type as you type it, and URLs you navigate to, to Google is an option in Chrome; if you don't like it, turn it off (I have). It's still a much neater UI to have 'type stuff here and I'll work it out', as long as it gets it right 99% of the time, which it does (because URLs are pretty each to recognise).

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                                          Dan Neely
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                                          Did you actually read what I wrote? I want Google auto complete when I'm typing a search query. I don't want every URL I'm typing sent to Google.

                                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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