Ego-driven voting system and retaliatory voting/comments. No more.
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Cristian, If I read the comments of that page, I could interpret your comments as "arrogant". Don't get me wrong, your comment is probably correct (don't know this stuff, so can't comment on the contents) and Í'm pretty sure that you don't mean to sound arrogant, but the author doesn't know that. I wouldn't have downvoted you for such an answer myself, but I think I understand why someone would. Hope this helps. (PS: and don't take downvoting too personally, everyone here encounters one voters at times.)
I see your point, but the part of "I hope this is a copy-paste" is clearly referring to the author copying from its own sources of another project in a context where PostQuitMessage is wrong. Not plagiarism. But anyways, voting 1 for a correct statement (I stand for it) is plain dumb. A reply explaining me *why* (why was used, or why am I wrong) would do the service we're all here for. My 0.02.
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So why bring it up in the lounge? It's highly unlikely that the person who down voted you is reading this. I would suspect that the vote came from the author and is most likely because your wording made him think you were accusing him of plagiarism. As it is, your comment was terse and easily misunderstood by a none native English speaker.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierWell, I am not a native speaker either (I'm Romanian). You could be right, but being in a programming forum implies a minimal English level. As for the comment terseness, I can admit that. But, again, a simple reply (You're wrong because of X, I don't get it, What do you mean etc.) would do much better than the current situation.
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Claim: the voting system works well in large numbers, but not in small ones. For you: Don't fuss. It's one number out of millions in a database2. Stick to the facts. PostQuitMessage from hook inject dll will close the injected process Would have sufficed. If you need to speculate, use the most honorable (or at least least incriminating) assumption. ----- I've got my first "Spam / Abusive" last week for a mild nazi stereotype joke. Be it known to all that as a German I reserved the universal, unilateral, uninwaiverable1 right to make Nazi jokes. 1) Also, the upmaking of words. 2) If this one is yours and you've sworn to protect it, just don't show it around3 3) Also, occasionally weird order of footnotes.
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I've got my first "Spam / Abusive" last week for a mild nazi stereotype joke. Be it known to all that as a German I reserved the universal, unilateral, uninwaiverable1 right to make Nazi jokes. 1) Also, the upmaking of words.
Bluddy Krauts, ruinin' our green an' pleasant language!
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Well, I am not a native speaker either (I'm Romanian). You could be right, but being in a programming forum implies a minimal English level. As for the comment terseness, I can admit that. But, again, a simple reply (You're wrong because of X, I don't get it, What do you mean etc.) would do much better than the current situation.
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That only applies if the author understands your point. If, as I suspect, he has misunderstood your point and he thinks you are calling him a plagiarist, it's easy to see why he would vote 1.
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peterchen wrote:
I've got my first "Spam / Abusive" last week for a mild nazi stereotype joke. Be it known to all that as a German I reserved the universal, unilateral, uninwaiverable1 right to make Nazi jokes. 1) Also, the upmaking of words.
Bluddy Krauts, ruinin' our green an' pleasant language!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
You're just sauer.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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You're just sauer.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierLet's mix up all our comments with deutschen Wörtern :laugh: :-D :laugh: .
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Let's mix up all our comments with deutschen Wörtern :laugh: :-D :laugh: .
cheers Marco Bertschi
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I'm dafür!
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I'm dafür!
I'm not. The 2nd world war was a really terrible war. A lot of good people died back then. My grandfather for instance, died in a German concentration camp... :sigh: .... he fell off a watch tower! :~ OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it... ;P
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I'm not. The 2nd world war was a really terrible war. A lot of good people died back then. My grandfather for instance, died in a German concentration camp... :sigh: .... he fell off a watch tower! :~ OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it... ;P
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932:laugh: :laugh:
cheers Marco Bertschi
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I'm not. The 2nd world war was a really terrible war. A lot of good people died back then. My grandfather for instance, died in a German concentration camp... :sigh: .... he fell off a watch tower! :~ OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it... ;P
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932Johnny J. wrote:
OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it...
Wanna bet?
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Johnny J. wrote:
OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it...
Wanna bet?
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Downvote - No Report abuse - Yes But you wouldn't do that to poor me, would you now? :confused:
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932I wouldn't, but I'm not the only one who reads the messages.
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So this is the comment. Got a 1 vote for it. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4491610/PostQuitMessage.aspx[^] Sorry for bringing this (again) to attention, but I think the (down)voting system become far too retaliatory to do any good. About the comment: the article explain a hooking/subclassing system, which calls PostQuitMessage from a dll. PostQuitMessage will execute in the context of the "hooked" process and this will most likely have as a result ending of its message loop. So the unload/unhook/uninit/whatever will close the injected process (abruptly), which is unacceptable. So - is it a playground here or a hi5 forum? or is it a programming one? Because if anyone interested in process injection (and not only) fails to understand my previous comment, then I suppose is not only better *not* to comment or reply on what PostQuitMessage does in this context - but maybe is time to let Windows programming for those who can handle it. Think that many juniors can take this for granted and bomb their own implementation, customers gets crashed etc. Really, this is *not* a subject to trifle with without a gazillion of precautions. Or to vote down just for some unjustified ego reasons. I invite the person that voted 1 for this comment to step forward and explain why there is no value in my comment. This type of charade is happening long enough for me to stop ignoring such things and fight back for my ideas. Really, CP (or for that matter, *any* programming forum) it is supposed to consist of members contributing (keyword !) to a community of programmers. We're not on Facebook here to throw with Likes just because an article or a comment is of a friend. So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
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So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
There are many reasons why people down vote. There is no rational in taking such things seriously. You put your opinion, for those are able to understand it will help. Like Facebook, CP also gives right to have people their own point of view. In that CP is Facebook style. However people with right attitude about learning programming and adding value will always be appreciated.
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So this is the comment. Got a 1 vote for it. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4491610/PostQuitMessage.aspx[^] Sorry for bringing this (again) to attention, but I think the (down)voting system become far too retaliatory to do any good. About the comment: the article explain a hooking/subclassing system, which calls PostQuitMessage from a dll. PostQuitMessage will execute in the context of the "hooked" process and this will most likely have as a result ending of its message loop. So the unload/unhook/uninit/whatever will close the injected process (abruptly), which is unacceptable. So - is it a playground here or a hi5 forum? or is it a programming one? Because if anyone interested in process injection (and not only) fails to understand my previous comment, then I suppose is not only better *not* to comment or reply on what PostQuitMessage does in this context - but maybe is time to let Windows programming for those who can handle it. Think that many juniors can take this for granted and bomb their own implementation, customers gets crashed etc. Really, this is *not* a subject to trifle with without a gazillion of precautions. Or to vote down just for some unjustified ego reasons. I invite the person that voted 1 for this comment to step forward and explain why there is no value in my comment. This type of charade is happening long enough for me to stop ignoring such things and fight back for my ideas. Really, CP (or for that matter, *any* programming forum) it is supposed to consist of members contributing (keyword !) to a community of programmers. We're not on Facebook here to throw with Likes just because an article or a comment is of a friend. So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
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So this is the comment. Got a 1 vote for it. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4491610/PostQuitMessage.aspx[^] Sorry for bringing this (again) to attention, but I think the (down)voting system become far too retaliatory to do any good. About the comment: the article explain a hooking/subclassing system, which calls PostQuitMessage from a dll. PostQuitMessage will execute in the context of the "hooked" process and this will most likely have as a result ending of its message loop. So the unload/unhook/uninit/whatever will close the injected process (abruptly), which is unacceptable. So - is it a playground here or a hi5 forum? or is it a programming one? Because if anyone interested in process injection (and not only) fails to understand my previous comment, then I suppose is not only better *not* to comment or reply on what PostQuitMessage does in this context - but maybe is time to let Windows programming for those who can handle it. Think that many juniors can take this for granted and bomb their own implementation, customers gets crashed etc. Really, this is *not* a subject to trifle with without a gazillion of precautions. Or to vote down just for some unjustified ego reasons. I invite the person that voted 1 for this comment to step forward and explain why there is no value in my comment. This type of charade is happening long enough for me to stop ignoring such things and fight back for my ideas. Really, CP (or for that matter, *any* programming forum) it is supposed to consist of members contributing (keyword !) to a community of programmers. We're not on Facebook here to throw with Likes just because an article or a comment is of a friend. So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
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PostQuitMessage would could close the injected process only if this was on the main message loop. Even then, you assume it isn't doing something else with the resulting WM_QUIT message. In this regard, you answer is technically incorrect, though your concern is correct and the use of PostQuitMessage is extremely bad and totally wrong in this situation.
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PostQuitMessage would could close the injected process only if this was on the main message loop. Even then, you assume it isn't doing something else with the resulting WM_QUIT message. In this regard, you answer is technically incorrect, though your concern is correct and the use of PostQuitMessage is extremely bad and totally wrong in this situation.
Point taken. But from article the whole thing is done in main thread, and one cannot rely on what the injected exe does handling WM_QUIT or not (anyways this can is cancelable only with custom code). For sure I could have been expanded the answer, but I thought the idea was clear enough.
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There was a time when posting this type of complaint here would guarantee you several more downvotes, and ones that actually affect your rating, too. That thread is over a month old, why do you care about getting a 1 today?
It's about the idea, not when or what. I am not complaining about the 1 - I got my share of well-deserved slaps in time. Simply put, this kind of thing makes me to edit bookmarks, and wonder myself when contributions becomes Likes. That's all. (And there was a time when this kind of thing didn't happened).
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It's about the idea, not when or what. I am not complaining about the 1 - I got my share of well-deserved slaps in time. Simply put, this kind of thing makes me to edit bookmarks, and wonder myself when contributions becomes Likes. That's all. (And there was a time when this kind of thing didn't happened).
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Cristian Amarie wrote:
And there was a time when this kind of thing didn't happened
What Utopia are you living in? This has happened on CP for as long as there's been voting on the articles.
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Getting a uni voter for a comment is a sign you are now, officially, a CPer.
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There was a time when posting this type of complaint here would guarantee you several more downvotes, and ones that actually affect your rating, too. That thread is over a month old, why do you care about getting a 1 today?
Well, at least the **** hit the fan. My comments on that thread are suddenly down voted :D. No other real contribution, no replies, just 1's. That's fine with me, only I think this proves my point. At work, if someone bombs/crash/dumps, the **** storm is immediate. Frankly, I think this is a good thing, we're arguing (and not pleasant) each other, but in the end the result is a better code. And I think that's the stuff to achieve.
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