Discussions on the best weapon for the Zombie Apocalypse
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wizardzz wrote:
I think swinging a sword sideways with decapitating force is unlikely.
I am not talking broadsword or traditional swords of Western Europe here. Also, if hit right it should slice right through. A person breaks their neck quite easily with there own weight when being hanged falling incorrectly so the force power is not significant. Need only worry about it cutting all the way through for additional swinging. That is why one should use a fine grade Katana... None of that Western Europe Broad sword crud. That is too heavy and will get stuck.
wizardzz wrote:
Spearing heads, that's much more likely. You'll need to figure out a way to pull the weapon back out though.
And there in lies the rub. The stabbing in and out action is too slow. You are better off gambling and hoping you can swing right through the beasts. If it works you take out multiples. If not, well you were dead any other option (when they are flooding towards you). Also with the swinging action even if it does get stuck you are in the same situation as in the stabbing motion in that you have to pull the blade/spear towards you prior to the next attack (be it stab or swing). So it seems you loss nothing, but added the chance to have a clean sever. No chance for that with stabbing motions.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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wizardzz wrote:
I think swinging a sword sideways with decapitating force is unlikely.
I am not talking broadsword or traditional swords of Western Europe here. Also, if hit right it should slice right through. A person breaks their neck quite easily with there own weight when being hanged falling incorrectly so the force power is not significant. Need only worry about it cutting all the way through for additional swinging. That is why one should use a fine grade Katana... None of that Western Europe Broad sword crud. That is too heavy and will get stuck.
wizardzz wrote:
Spearing heads, that's much more likely. You'll need to figure out a way to pull the weapon back out though.
And there in lies the rub. The stabbing in and out action is too slow. You are better off gambling and hoping you can swing right through the beasts. If it works you take out multiples. If not, well you were dead any other option (when they are flooding towards you). Also with the swinging action even if it does get stuck you are in the same situation as in the stabbing motion in that you have to pull the blade/spear towards you prior to the next attack (be it stab or swing). So it seems you loss nothing, but added the chance to have a clean sever. No chance for that with stabbing motions.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Well that's why I would prefer to stab the skull with a long pike that has a stopper to prevent too deep of penetration, with a hole in the stopper plate to push the skull off. 4" should be enough to hit the brain. Either way, I'd rather have my weapon of choice keep me further away from the damn things.
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Am I the only one for whom standard hallway conversation seems to be about the correct weapon and ammo choice for the upcoming Zombie Apocalypse.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Am I the only one for whom standard hallway conversation seems to be about the correct weapon and ammo choice for the upcoming Zombie Apocalypse.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Am I the only one for whom standard hallway conversation seems to be about the correct weapon and ammo choice for the upcoming Zombie Apocalypse.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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CPallini wrote:
You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:
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Am I the only one for whom standard hallway conversation seems to be about the correct weapon and ammo choice for the upcoming Zombie Apocalypse.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
The conversation in our office usually stops at "I'm with John". Everyone else nods in agreement, and the crowd disperses.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Well that's why I would prefer to stab the skull with a long pike that has a stopper to prevent too deep of penetration, with a hole in the stopper plate to push the skull off. 4" should be enough to hit the brain. Either way, I'd rather have my weapon of choice keep me further away from the damn things.
I definitely see the usage of a nice long spear. It goes with my logic of not being reliant on heavy ammo that will eventually run out and leave you helpless. I can see a spear having its usage, but a spear is a bit harder to manage in certain circumstances. The two that come to mind are close quarters (hallways etc) or when the numbers of zombies are well into the double digits. Seems like a spear would be good for clean up of some wondering zombies onto your area of control. Send a spearman out to take him down with little risk. However, say you scoping to get some supplies and need to go into an infested area. The numbers could end up over whelming. A sword allows you to slash and run. Really it is not about stabbing the head on as many as you can in this case, but rather leaving a hole for you to escape. In other words cutting any appendage off is just as effective if it allows you to escape. Or cutting anything that may create obstacles (this is more likely true than stabbing something to create obstacles IMO) Also, if you can't escape but have to barricade yourself in somewhere a spear would be very difficult to use at that point. As long as you have a few feet on either side of you you can swing the sword with quite a bit of force while a long pole would get stuck or you would not be able to pull back enough to the stab forward.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Vince Yonemitsu wrote:
The best zombie defense is a friend that is slower than you.
But that's like ammo. You will run out eventually.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Am I the only one for whom standard hallway conversation seems to be about the correct weapon and ammo choice for the upcoming Zombie Apocalypse.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Samurai Sword[^] It has unlimited ammo and the best part, while you wait for the Zombie Apocalypse it works on your boss also. trust me... I have reliable experience on my previous two jobs. ;)
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I definitely see the usage of a nice long spear. It goes with my logic of not being reliant on heavy ammo that will eventually run out and leave you helpless. I can see a spear having its usage, but a spear is a bit harder to manage in certain circumstances. The two that come to mind are close quarters (hallways etc) or when the numbers of zombies are well into the double digits. Seems like a spear would be good for clean up of some wondering zombies onto your area of control. Send a spearman out to take him down with little risk. However, say you scoping to get some supplies and need to go into an infested area. The numbers could end up over whelming. A sword allows you to slash and run. Really it is not about stabbing the head on as many as you can in this case, but rather leaving a hole for you to escape. In other words cutting any appendage off is just as effective if it allows you to escape. Or cutting anything that may create obstacles (this is more likely true than stabbing something to create obstacles IMO) Also, if you can't escape but have to barricade yourself in somewhere a spear would be very difficult to use at that point. As long as you have a few feet on either side of you you can swing the sword with quite a bit of force while a long pole would get stuck or you would not be able to pull back enough to the stab forward.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Well it is a zombie apocalypse, isn't that unavoidable? Any good holywood flick teaches us that the "safe" area is just a carrot to keep people moving :)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Well it is a zombie apocalypse, isn't that unavoidable? Any good holywood flick teaches us that the "safe" area is just a carrot to keep people moving :)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
I intend to hunker down in place, if the outbreak starts when I'm near it. Or head to a bugout location, depending on where I am at the time. I've noticed you have not mentioned any armor or projectile weapons. Duct tape and seatbelts make good bite proof flexible materials, and slingshots never run out of ammo (I assume you'll need to kill game to eat).
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I intend to hunker down in place, if the outbreak starts when I'm near it. Or head to a bugout location, depending on where I am at the time. I've noticed you have not mentioned any armor or projectile weapons. Duct tape and seatbelts make good bite proof flexible materials, and slingshots never run out of ammo (I assume you'll need to kill game to eat).
Yeah hunkering down is the best bet. Not always an option though. Have to find the place that works for the longest :)
wizardzz wrote:
I've noticed you have not mentioned any armor or projectile weapons. Duct tape and seatbelts make good bite proof flexible materials, and slingshots never run out of ammo (I assume you'll need to kill game to eat).
All of that stuff is good but I don't consider it a weapon for the zombie apocalypse. That falls more into the survival kit etc. Duct tape, crossbow, fishing pole, sleeping bags, tent. The list goes on. Most of that stuff I have just for hobby and practical goods. Would just have to gather it when it hit the fan. I think a crossbow and fishing pole are the best tools for food gathering though. Quiet, reusable, and lightweight with little maintenance. Good idea with the seat belts!
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Yeah hunkering down is the best bet. Not always an option though. Have to find the place that works for the longest :)
wizardzz wrote:
I've noticed you have not mentioned any armor or projectile weapons. Duct tape and seatbelts make good bite proof flexible materials, and slingshots never run out of ammo (I assume you'll need to kill game to eat).
All of that stuff is good but I don't consider it a weapon for the zombie apocalypse. That falls more into the survival kit etc. Duct tape, crossbow, fishing pole, sleeping bags, tent. The list goes on. Most of that stuff I have just for hobby and practical goods. Would just have to gather it when it hit the fan. I think a crossbow and fishing pole are the best tools for food gathering though. Quiet, reusable, and lightweight with little maintenance. Good idea with the seat belts!
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Yeah hunkering down is the best bet. Not always an option though. Have to find the place that works for the longest
If I need to travel, I will get my traveling out of the way immediately as shit hits the fan. As soon as food is scarce, people will cannibalize, so you will be fighting armed, ambushing people along with zombies. Know what if any place is worth raiding immediately. I think nets and snares are pretty good, fishing implies you will be stationary near a shore, though you can improvise a live catch trap out of a lot of things. As people die off, I assume rats and pigeons will be even more abundant.
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Am I the only one for whom standard hallway conversation seems to be about the correct weapon and ammo choice for the upcoming Zombie Apocalypse.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Alas, my coworkers are woefully oblivious to the threat. I doubt that any of them has given a moment's thought to the problem. In fact, I don't think more than one or two of the linemen have weapons, and I'm certain none of the rest of the office staff have access to any sort of gun. Carrying on any sort of discussion with them is a waste of time, and I think they're beginning to worry about me standing by the coffee urn all day, debating with the voices which appear to speak only to me about the merits of the various calibers and delivery systems I have in my personal arsenal. I don't know why they should be concerned; someone obviously needs to be looking after their welfare and defense...:suss:
Will Rogers never met me.
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This is a daily discussion in our office. That, and how stupid the people on "The Walking Dead" are... still fun to watch though!
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Forogar wrote:
That, and how stupid the people on writers of "The Walking Dead" are... still fun to watch though!
Credit where it's due.
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Forogar wrote:
That, and how stupid the people on writers of "The Walking Dead" are... still fun to watch though!
Credit where it's due.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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stupid the people on writers of "The Walking Dead" are
Good point. Anyone would think they spent their entire working life doing nothing but reading and writing comics! It definitely warps their view of reality and the reactions that real people would have in certain situations.
- Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...
