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  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

    Only $30 Billion needed[^]

    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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    AspDotNetDev
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    Only $30 billion/year? I guess it's good that the US gives $50 billion/year in foreign aid. :doh:

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      That's what capitalists do, they capitalize things.

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      I see you understand the joke I was making. :doh:

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        Only $30 Billion needed[^]

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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        A more relevant number would be the amount of money spent on the military by the countries with the most hunger. It's probably a lot less. Also, among those those countries are probably a lot of countries that actually need their military, because their neighbours are the kind of asshats that would invade if they saw a chance. An other relevant number is how much it would cost to solve hunger in the civilized world, which has been on the rise lately. That could actually be solved (it wouldn't require people to care about other countries, which they never will, not on a serious scale anyway), except in 'Murica because socialism is evil.

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          A more relevant number would be the amount of money spent on the military by the countries with the most hunger. It's probably a lot less. Also, among those those countries are probably a lot of countries that actually need their military, because their neighbours are the kind of asshats that would invade if they saw a chance. An other relevant number is how much it would cost to solve hunger in the civilized world, which has been on the rise lately. That could actually be solved (it wouldn't require people to care about other countries, which they never will, not on a serious scale anyway), except in 'Murica because socialism is evil.

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          Wow, you've got a big chip on your shoulder don't ya??!! This wasn't a comment about any single country or group of countries, but rather the world at large. And yeah I get the point about needing to protect yourself. And you don't need to involve gov't or socialism to solve the hunger problem. And yea, socialism is evil because force is evil. So take your anti-american rantings to the soapbox, where they belong.

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            Only $30 Billion needed[^]

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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            8.5/10 of the stats in those sorts of things are made up anyway.

            Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
            -Or-
            A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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              8.5/10 of the stats in those sorts of things are made up anyway.

              Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
              -Or-
              A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              It is an estimate, which, by definition, is made up.

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                It is an estimate, which, by definition, is made up.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                AspDotNetDev
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                Assuming 1 billion people are "hungry", $30 billion / 365 days / 1 billion people = $0.08. So, we can feed people for 8 cents a day? I can't buy a grape for that much. About $30/year? I've paid for dinners several times that expensive. I'm not convinced.

                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                  Wow, you've got a big chip on your shoulder don't ya??!! This wasn't a comment about any single country or group of countries, but rather the world at large. And yeah I get the point about needing to protect yourself. And you don't need to involve gov't or socialism to solve the hunger problem. And yea, socialism is evil because force is evil. So take your anti-american rantings to the soapbox, where they belong.

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                  Clickety[^] It wasn't really an anti-American ranting... He was simply pointing out that many Americans view Socialism as evil...

                  The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                    Wow, you've got a big chip on your shoulder don't ya??!! This wasn't a comment about any single country or group of countries, but rather the world at large. And yeah I get the point about needing to protect yourself. And you don't need to involve gov't or socialism to solve the hunger problem. And yea, socialism is evil because force is evil. So take your anti-american rantings to the soapbox, where they belong.

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    I so wish I could downvote this..

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                      Assuming 1 billion people are "hungry", $30 billion / 365 days / 1 billion people = $0.08. So, we can feed people for 8 cents a day? I can't buy a grape for that much. About $30/year? I've paid for dinners several times that expensive. I'm not convinced.

                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      Your assumption that 1 billion people are "hungry" would equal 14%-16% of the world. I think that's a rather large overestimate. But even so, most of those people are in poor, third-world countries where the cost of goods and food is much less than in the "first world". So I don't have a hard time believing the cost even as you've estimated. In any case even if you made it a $1 a day that's only about $400 Billion, which is only about 100 days worth of the world's military spending. The point isn't really the cost anyway, it's the fact we're prioritizing the wrong thing...

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                        Clickety[^] It wasn't really an anti-American ranting... He was simply pointing out that many Americans view Socialism as evil...

                        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        Sorry, I'll have to respectfully disagree. (Nice link though. I like to call a spade, well, a spade and quickly at that.)

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                          I so wish I could downvote this..

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          You're the one that turned to attack mode. If you'd left the "Murcan" part of the comment out, then I'd not have called it a rant or rather I'd not have replied at all.

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                            Your assumption that 1 billion people are "hungry" would equal 14%-16% of the world. I think that's a rather large overestimate. But even so, most of those people are in poor, third-world countries where the cost of goods and food is much less than in the "first world". So I don't have a hard time believing the cost even as you've estimated. In any case even if you made it a $1 a day that's only about $400 Billion, which is only about 100 days worth of the world's military spending. The point isn't really the cost anyway, it's the fact we're prioritizing the wrong thing...

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                            Colin Mullikin
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                            Hunger itself isn't the problem. It's the causes of hunger that are the problem. The solution is not to give them a bunch of food/money all the time. This applies to all welfare-like situations, and leads me to this saying: "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for the rest of his life." :thumbsup: A related phrase is "Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, keep him warm the rest of his life." :laugh:

                            The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                              You're the one that turned to attack mode. If you'd left the "Murcan" part of the comment out, then I'd not have called it a rant or rather I'd not have replied at all.

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                              It was just a flippant remark.

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                                Hunger itself isn't the problem. It's the causes of hunger that are the problem. The solution is not to give them a bunch of food/money all the time. This applies to all welfare-like situations, and leads me to this saying: "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for the rest of his life." :thumbsup: A related phrase is "Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, keep him warm the rest of his life." :laugh:

                                The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                You've a point. Still, while you're teaching to fish, people need to be fed until they can feed themselves. Gotta start somewhere. You can't teach someone anything on an empty stomach.

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                  It was just a flippant remark.

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  OK, sorry for my being oversenstive.

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                    You're the one that turned to attack mode. If you'd left the "Murcan" part of the comment out, then I'd not have called it a rant or rather I'd not have replied at all.

                                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                    Colin Mullikin
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                                    ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                    You're the one that turned to attack mode.

                                    That's the thing... He's not. You are. He stated something that everyone knows is true, and you got very defensive about it and attacked him...

                                    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                      Your assumption that 1 billion people are "hungry" would equal 14%-16% of the world. I think that's a rather large overestimate. But even so, most of those people are in poor, third-world countries where the cost of goods and food is much less than in the "first world". So I don't have a hard time believing the cost even as you've estimated. In any case even if you made it a $1 a day that's only about $400 Billion, which is only about 100 days worth of the world's military spending. The point isn't really the cost anyway, it's the fact we're prioritizing the wrong thing...

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                      ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                      . I think that's a rather large overestimate.

                                      According to this[^] it's pretty close.

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                                        ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                        You're the one that turned to attack mode.

                                        That's the thing... He's not. You are. He stated something that everyone knows is true, and you got very defensive about it and attacked him...

                                        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                        Sorry, have to disagree there, too.

                                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                          ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                          . I think that's a rather large overestimate.

                                          According to this[^] it's pretty close.

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          That's really sad then.

                                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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