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  • A AspDotNetDev

    Problem with that first one is that the very poorest intentionally have more children so that their children can support them as they grow older.

    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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    Single Step Debugger
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    This is more a cultural thing. That’s why in China doctors are not allowed to reveal to parents the gender of the baby. Future mothers tend to abort the girls as less useful.

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      Sorry, I'll have to respectfully disagree. (Nice link though. I like to call a spade, well, a spade and quickly at that.)

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      I disagree with your disagreement.

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      • A AspDotNetDev

        It is an image of such poor quality that, while I can see it is a child, I am only partially certain the child is eating food off of the ground (EDIT: also, there are some bombs falling from the sky). Also, the image has a caption that reads:

        Caption:

        The Money required to eradicate hunger for everyone in the world has been estimated at 30 billion a year...about as much as the world spends on the military every eight days.

        Probably some capitalist decided to capitalize "Money".

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        realJSOP
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        Hell, when I was a kid, I ate food off the ground because I knew it horrified my mother. (Give a kid a button to push, and he will damn-well push it.)

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        • E ednrg

          I disagree with your disagreement.

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          :zzz:

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            Your assumption that 1 billion people are "hungry" would equal 14%-16% of the world. I think that's a rather large overestimate. But even so, most of those people are in poor, third-world countries where the cost of goods and food is much less than in the "first world". So I don't have a hard time believing the cost even as you've estimated. In any case even if you made it a $1 a day that's only about $400 Billion, which is only about 100 days worth of the world's military spending. The point isn't really the cost anyway, it's the fact we're prioritizing the wrong thing...

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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            ahmed zahmed wrote:

            Your assumption that 1 billion people are "hungry" would equal 14%-16% of the world. I think that's a rather large overestimate.

            That certainly isn't what advocates claim. http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm#Number_of_hungry_people_in_the_world[^]

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            • C Colin Mullikin

              Hunger itself isn't the problem. It's the causes of hunger that are the problem. The solution is not to give them a bunch of food/money all the time. This applies to all welfare-like situations, and leads me to this saying: "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for the rest of his life." :thumbsup: A related phrase is "Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, keep him warm the rest of his life." :laugh:

              The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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              Colin Mullikin wrote:

              Hunger itself isn't the problem. It's the causes of hunger that are the problem.

              Shhh! Despite that all sorts of 'problems' could be fixed by actually reducing population absolutely no one is willing to make that a major part of the solution. And certainly part of the reason for that is the Catholic Church.

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                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                Your assumption that 1 billion people are "hungry" would equal 14%-16% of the world. I think that's a rather large overestimate.

                That certainly isn't what advocates claim. http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm#Number_of_hungry_people_in_the_world[^]

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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                Already pointed-out by someone else and replied to. And yes that's truly sad.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                  You've a point. Still, while you're teaching to fish, people need to be fed until they can feed themselves. Gotta start somewhere. You can't teach someone anything on an empty stomach.

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                  ahmed zahmed wrote:

                  Still, while you're teaching to fish, people need to be fed until they can feed themselves

                  The real problem however it that once people are fed that they will then find time on their hands and will seek to entertain themselves. For instance by having sex and producing more children.

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                    ahmed zahmed wrote:

                    Still, while you're teaching to fish, people need to be fed until they can feed themselves

                    The real problem however it that once people are fed that they will then find time on their hands and will seek to entertain themselves. For instance by having sex and producing more children.

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                    Funny how you libs get upset when someone tries to enact laws to say what kind of sex is ok, but then you go wacko and try to control how many children people have. Sex isn't the problem. People being irresponsible for themselves and for their neighbor is the problem.

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    • L Lost User

                      A more relevant number would be the amount of money spent on the military by the countries with the most hunger. It's probably a lot less. Also, among those those countries are probably a lot of countries that actually need their military, because their neighbours are the kind of asshats that would invade if they saw a chance. An other relevant number is how much it would cost to solve hunger in the civilized world, which has been on the rise lately. That could actually be solved (it wouldn't require people to care about other countries, which they never will, not on a serious scale anyway), except in 'Murica because socialism is evil.

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                      harold aptroot wrote:

                      Also, among those those countries are probably a lot of countries that actually need their military, because their neighbours are the kind of asshats that would invade if they saw a chance.

                      We have that problem with Canada.

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                      • J Jim SS

                        I like to redistribute my wealth, and I think I do a good job of it. It makes me feel good to provide benefit to someone that I think deserves assistance. I hate it when the government redistributes my wealth (socialism), I don't think they do a good job of it. It makes me feel bad when I see that my redistributed wealth goes to people that neither need, deserve or appreciate it.

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                        jschell
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                        Jim (SS) wrote:

                        I like to redistribute my wealth, and I think I do a good job of it. It makes me feel good to provide benefit to someone that I think deserves assistance.

                        Scam artists also appreciates the right of individuals to give their money to 'help' someone.

                        Jim (SS) wrote:

                        I hate it when the government redistributes my wealth (socialism), I don't think they do a good job of it. It makes me feel bad when I see that my redistributed wealth goes to people that neither need, deserve or appreciate it.

                        Yep. Certainly don't want to help certain types of undesirables. The fact that many others think those sort of people should be helped certainly shouldn't be a reason to compel me to help them. My money should only go to the right sort! And of course I will need to be sure that my employees, friends, neighbors and members of my congregation don't help those sort either. Certainly nothing wrong with me using my persuasion and even my economic clout to insure that they follow my righteous lead.

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                          A more relevant number would be the amount of money spent on the military by the countries with the most hunger. It's probably a lot less. Also, among those those countries are probably a lot of countries that actually need their military, because their neighbours are the kind of asshats that would invade if they saw a chance. An other relevant number is how much it would cost to solve hunger in the civilized world, which has been on the rise lately. That could actually be solved (it wouldn't require people to care about other countries, which they never will, not on a serious scale anyway), except in 'Murica because socialism is evil.

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                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          An other relevant number is how much it would cost to solve hunger in the civilized world

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                            Hell, when I was a kid, I ate food off the ground because I knew it horrified my mother. (Give a kid a button to push, and he will damn-well push it.)

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            I ate food off the ground

                            That explains a lot.

                            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                              Clickety[^] It wasn't really an anti-American ranting... He was simply pointing out that many Americans view Socialism as evil...

                              The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                              Colin Mullikin wrote:

                              He was simply pointing out that many Americans view Socialism as evil...

                              Which, of course, it is.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              • A AspDotNetDev

                                Assuming 1 billion people are "hungry", $30 billion / 365 days / 1 billion people = $0.08. So, we can feed people for 8 cents a day? I can't buy a grape for that much. About $30/year? I've paid for dinners several times that expensive. I'm not convinced.

                                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                realJSOP
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                                Actually, the new figure is $0.52 per day (according to the commercials on TV).

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                • J jschell

                                  Jim (SS) wrote:

                                  I like to redistribute my wealth, and I think I do a good job of it. It makes me feel good to provide benefit to someone that I think deserves assistance.

                                  Scam artists also appreciates the right of individuals to give their money to 'help' someone.

                                  Jim (SS) wrote:

                                  I hate it when the government redistributes my wealth (socialism), I don't think they do a good job of it. It makes me feel bad when I see that my redistributed wealth goes to people that neither need, deserve or appreciate it.

                                  Yep. Certainly don't want to help certain types of undesirables. The fact that many others think those sort of people should be helped certainly shouldn't be a reason to compel me to help them. My money should only go to the right sort! And of course I will need to be sure that my employees, friends, neighbors and members of my congregation don't help those sort either. Certainly nothing wrong with me using my persuasion and even my economic clout to insure that they follow my righteous lead.

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                                  jschell wrote:

                                  Certainly don't want to help certain types of undesirables.

                                  Where did you get "undesirables" from? People that don't need the assistance = welfare scammers People that don't deserve assistance = anyone that's been on the government tit for longer than a few months (and THAT is being generous on my part) People that don't appreciate it = anyone that thinks they are entitled to government assistance simply because they exist and the government is handing it out

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    I ate food off the ground

                                    That explains a lot.

                                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                    AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                    That explains a lot.

                                    But not as much as you'd like it to explain. :)

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      Jim (SS) wrote:

                                      I like to redistribute my wealth, and I think I do a good job of it. It makes me feel good to provide benefit to someone that I think deserves assistance.

                                      Scam artists also appreciates the right of individuals to give their money to 'help' someone.

                                      Jim (SS) wrote:

                                      I hate it when the government redistributes my wealth (socialism), I don't think they do a good job of it. It makes me feel bad when I see that my redistributed wealth goes to people that neither need, deserve or appreciate it.

                                      Yep. Certainly don't want to help certain types of undesirables. The fact that many others think those sort of people should be helped certainly shouldn't be a reason to compel me to help them. My money should only go to the right sort! And of course I will need to be sure that my employees, friends, neighbors and members of my congregation don't help those sort either. Certainly nothing wrong with me using my persuasion and even my economic clout to insure that they follow my righteous lead.

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                                      Jim SS
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                                      Somebody needs to use their intelligence to make those decisions; I sure don't see many governments making good decisions. It is your right if you want "your" money going to "undesirables", just as it is my right to have my money going to anyone I want.

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                                        and ~$17B of that "foreign aid" is military. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid[^]

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                                        Which still leave more than the required 30bn.

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          Which still leave more than the required 30bn.

                                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          well, yeah. but not the point.

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