The Lady is not for turning
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She is at least a significant figure in British politics, but I also think she was highly overrated. To9 put it another way, I like Nelson Mandela and Abraham Lincon better ;)
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It's really a bit of a dirty trick putting a political statement like that in an RIP thread in the Lounge, where we can't really have a go at her or it. "Greatest" my arse and if you knew anything about the north or England, or Scotland or Wales – actually that's everywhere outside the comfortable south east where she centralised all the wealth, a problem we still haven't dealt with – you'd never say that.
You do know that the South pays for all the rest don't you? There has to be a capital city and London is it. If things were better in the North then they would have all the money. These places are hotbeds of the Trots and Unionism that destroyed this country in the 70's. Are you old enough to remember the Winter of Discontent? Crisis? What Crisis? as Jim Callaghan flew back in from his foreign holiday to be greeted with rubbish on the streets and bodies unburied. THAT is the legacy of socialism. How very caring the socialists were back then, condemning families to not being able to bury their dead. Instead of complaining about how unfair the North was treated, they should have been busier trying to improve it and making it work. It was the Labour Govt. of the 70's that destroyed more jobs than Thatcher did, and by the end she had created more than she destroyed. Facts, eh, don't you just find they get in the way of perceived political beliefs.
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Kenneth Haugland wrote:
I like Nelson Mandela and Abraham Lincon better
Ooh, Thatcher said that Mandela was "just a terrorist".
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
*muble* a native south african and something about the British Empire *mumble*
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*muble* a native south african and something about the British Empire *mumble*
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She is at least a significant figure in British politics, but I also think she was highly overrated. To9 put it another way, I like Nelson Mandela and Abraham Lincon better ;)
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It's really a bit of a dirty trick putting a political statement like that in an RIP thread in the Lounge, where we can't really have a go at her or it. "Greatest" my arse and if you knew anything about the north or England, or Scotland or Wales – actually that's everywhere outside the comfortable south east where she centralised all the wealth, a problem we still haven't dealt with – you'd never say that.
sorry but I am from the north and I remember the unions and power cuts and strikes ever five minutes because some one changed a fuse in a factory 200 miles away in an industry not connected with mine, if you think that tshe destropyed the unions then you obviously never suffereed because of those unions, the industry she killed were allready dead but were kept going with tax payer money, they could not have lasted long even if she had not stood up to unions that werew more concerend with power then thier own members
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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"It can't be bargained with; it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, EVER, until you the unions are DEAD." Andy B
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Not at all, that was down to Pope John-Paul2 according to the news reports when he croaked. Of course it could just have been the massively accelerated defence spending on Star Wars and stuff by Reagan that did it. Andy B
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Oh, did I write that out load, sorry, I suffer from writers Tourettes sometimes :laugh:
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Sorry, the Soviets kind of did that by collapsing. :)
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Better her than the Trots who lied and cheated, who opened our borders and who taxed us to death in order to create a benefit society filled with undereducated children with no hope of a future. Still, that is socialists for you, spend all of your money and have nothing to show for it.
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I'm not sure which part of this was hard to parse: 4. No politics[^]
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You do know that the South pays for all the rest don't you? There has to be a capital city and London is it. If things were better in the North then they would have all the money. These places are hotbeds of the Trots and Unionism that destroyed this country in the 70's. Are you old enough to remember the Winter of Discontent? Crisis? What Crisis? as Jim Callaghan flew back in from his foreign holiday to be greeted with rubbish on the streets and bodies unburied. THAT is the legacy of socialism. How very caring the socialists were back then, condemning families to not being able to bury their dead. Instead of complaining about how unfair the North was treated, they should have been busier trying to improve it and making it work. It was the Labour Govt. of the 70's that destroyed more jobs than Thatcher did, and by the end she had created more than she destroyed. Facts, eh, don't you just find they get in the way of perceived political beliefs.
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
You do know that the South pays for all the rest don't you?
Ah yes, who can forgot the the majestic ranks of drilling rigs pumping the black-gold of the London oilfield day and night. Andy B
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You do know that the South pays for all the rest don't you? There has to be a capital city and London is it. If things were better in the North then they would have all the money. These places are hotbeds of the Trots and Unionism that destroyed this country in the 70's. Are you old enough to remember the Winter of Discontent? Crisis? What Crisis? as Jim Callaghan flew back in from his foreign holiday to be greeted with rubbish on the streets and bodies unburied. THAT is the legacy of socialism. How very caring the socialists were back then, condemning families to not being able to bury their dead. Instead of complaining about how unfair the North was treated, they should have been busier trying to improve it and making it work. It was the Labour Govt. of the 70's that destroyed more jobs than Thatcher did, and by the end she had created more than she destroyed. Facts, eh, don't you just find they get in the way of perceived political beliefs.
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You can make the sums say that the south pays for everyone else, though the south gets a massively disproportionate amount of spending (it gets something like 200 times the per capita infrastructure spending, public sector jobs and salaries are mostly paid there, they are London weighted, and benefits that take account of rent or living costs are a London subsidy). But that's precisely because that Tory government gutted the north and its industries, and deliberately pulled all the wealth to the south. The Labour government of the 70s might have cocked things up, but that doesn't make Thatcher the 'greatest ever' – it just makes her an opportunistic ideologue who took the public upset with the unions to push through far more social change and movement of assets than was sensible. There has to be a capital city, but it doesn't have to centralise everything. Look at Germany, which manages to have successful cities all around it – its financial centre is on the other side of the country to the legislative capital, and its regional capitals like Munich are not treated badly like Liverpool or Cardiff are by the UK government. "These places", referring to everywhere except the comfortable SE? Are you really that blind to the rest of the country that you think you can pigeonhole all of it like that?
It was the Labour Govt. of the 70's that destroyed more jobs than Thatcher did, and by the end she had created more than she destroyed.
Her government destroyed jobs in the north, and in the other countries of the union, and made them in the south-east of England. A national balance of numbers has no meaning if you live in one region (or even one country – there's a reason Scotland never votes for a Tory).
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Dalek Dave wrote:
RIP Margaret Thatcher.
Fucking ugly old cunt. Love what she did to jobs for the working class.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
A friend of mine, who now lives near Sydney, regretted that she would not be in London to throw rotten veggies at the funeral cortege. Don't worry, I replied - she'll burn her way through to the antipodes in a few hours.
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With great sadness I have to let you know that the Greatest Prime Minister this country has ever had has died. RIP Margaret Thatcher. She served this country well and I am deeply saddened.
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Best peace time PM ever. Changed the UK for the better - if not for her the UK would be a bankrupt communist state, probably a forgotten part of the United States of Europe. She got it right and the only people who have the utter gall to slag her off are jealous, small-minded socialists, people who weren't even born when she was in power and scum like Galloway. :rose:
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Best peace time PM ever. Changed the UK for the better - if not for her the UK would be a bankrupt communist state, probably a forgotten part of the United States of Europe. She got it right and the only people who have the utter gall to slag her off are jealous, small-minded socialists, people who weren't even born when she was in power and scum like Galloway. :rose:
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
She put us in the safe hands of the bankers and city slickers, and the media tycoons with impeccable morals such as Rupert Murdoch and Conrad Black.
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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She put us in the safe hands of the bankers and city slickers, and the media tycoons with impeccable morals such as Rupert Murdoch and Conrad Black.
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
You sound jealous. And small-minded. Mostly small-minded.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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You sound jealous. And small-minded. Mostly small-minded.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Just a victim of her policies in the 1980's
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