The Lady is not for turning
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Oh, did I write that out load, sorry, I suffer from writers Tourettes sometimes :laugh:
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Sorry, the Soviets kind of did that by collapsing. :)
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Better her than the Trots who lied and cheated, who opened our borders and who taxed us to death in order to create a benefit society filled with undereducated children with no hope of a future. Still, that is socialists for you, spend all of your money and have nothing to show for it.
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I'm not sure which part of this was hard to parse: 4. No politics[^]
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You do know that the South pays for all the rest don't you? There has to be a capital city and London is it. If things were better in the North then they would have all the money. These places are hotbeds of the Trots and Unionism that destroyed this country in the 70's. Are you old enough to remember the Winter of Discontent? Crisis? What Crisis? as Jim Callaghan flew back in from his foreign holiday to be greeted with rubbish on the streets and bodies unburied. THAT is the legacy of socialism. How very caring the socialists were back then, condemning families to not being able to bury their dead. Instead of complaining about how unfair the North was treated, they should have been busier trying to improve it and making it work. It was the Labour Govt. of the 70's that destroyed more jobs than Thatcher did, and by the end she had created more than she destroyed. Facts, eh, don't you just find they get in the way of perceived political beliefs.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
You do know that the South pays for all the rest don't you?
Ah yes, who can forgot the the majestic ranks of drilling rigs pumping the black-gold of the London oilfield day and night. Andy B
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You do know that the South pays for all the rest don't you? There has to be a capital city and London is it. If things were better in the North then they would have all the money. These places are hotbeds of the Trots and Unionism that destroyed this country in the 70's. Are you old enough to remember the Winter of Discontent? Crisis? What Crisis? as Jim Callaghan flew back in from his foreign holiday to be greeted with rubbish on the streets and bodies unburied. THAT is the legacy of socialism. How very caring the socialists were back then, condemning families to not being able to bury their dead. Instead of complaining about how unfair the North was treated, they should have been busier trying to improve it and making it work. It was the Labour Govt. of the 70's that destroyed more jobs than Thatcher did, and by the end she had created more than she destroyed. Facts, eh, don't you just find they get in the way of perceived political beliefs.
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You can make the sums say that the south pays for everyone else, though the south gets a massively disproportionate amount of spending (it gets something like 200 times the per capita infrastructure spending, public sector jobs and salaries are mostly paid there, they are London weighted, and benefits that take account of rent or living costs are a London subsidy). But that's precisely because that Tory government gutted the north and its industries, and deliberately pulled all the wealth to the south. The Labour government of the 70s might have cocked things up, but that doesn't make Thatcher the 'greatest ever' – it just makes her an opportunistic ideologue who took the public upset with the unions to push through far more social change and movement of assets than was sensible. There has to be a capital city, but it doesn't have to centralise everything. Look at Germany, which manages to have successful cities all around it – its financial centre is on the other side of the country to the legislative capital, and its regional capitals like Munich are not treated badly like Liverpool or Cardiff are by the UK government. "These places", referring to everywhere except the comfortable SE? Are you really that blind to the rest of the country that you think you can pigeonhole all of it like that?
It was the Labour Govt. of the 70's that destroyed more jobs than Thatcher did, and by the end she had created more than she destroyed.
Her government destroyed jobs in the north, and in the other countries of the union, and made them in the south-east of England. A national balance of numbers has no meaning if you live in one region (or even one country – there's a reason Scotland never votes for a Tory).
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Dalek Dave wrote:
RIP Margaret Thatcher.
Fucking ugly old cunt. Love what she did to jobs for the working class.
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A friend of mine, who now lives near Sydney, regretted that she would not be in London to throw rotten veggies at the funeral cortege. Don't worry, I replied - she'll burn her way through to the antipodes in a few hours.
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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With great sadness I have to let you know that the Greatest Prime Minister this country has ever had has died. RIP Margaret Thatcher. She served this country well and I am deeply saddened.
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Best peace time PM ever. Changed the UK for the better - if not for her the UK would be a bankrupt communist state, probably a forgotten part of the United States of Europe. She got it right and the only people who have the utter gall to slag her off are jealous, small-minded socialists, people who weren't even born when she was in power and scum like Galloway. :rose:
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Best peace time PM ever. Changed the UK for the better - if not for her the UK would be a bankrupt communist state, probably a forgotten part of the United States of Europe. She got it right and the only people who have the utter gall to slag her off are jealous, small-minded socialists, people who weren't even born when she was in power and scum like Galloway. :rose:
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
She put us in the safe hands of the bankers and city slickers, and the media tycoons with impeccable morals such as Rupert Murdoch and Conrad Black.
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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She put us in the safe hands of the bankers and city slickers, and the media tycoons with impeccable morals such as Rupert Murdoch and Conrad Black.
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
You sound jealous. And small-minded. Mostly small-minded.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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You sound jealous. And small-minded. Mostly small-minded.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Just a victim of her policies in the 1980's
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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Hey, what is this reasonable post doing here? Reported as abuse.
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Just a victim of her policies in the 1980's
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
Chris Quinn wrote:
Just a victim of her policies in the 1980's
I just know I'm going to regret this... In what way were you a victim?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Just a victim of her policies in the 1980's
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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I'm not sure which part of this was hard to parse: 4. No politics[^]
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She put us in the safe hands of the bankers and city slickers, and the media tycoons with impeccable morals such as Rupert Murdoch and Conrad Black.
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
Chris Quinn wrote:
She put us in the safe hands of the bankers and city slickers
No, Gordon Brown's 'light touch regulation' did that. You might like to read the cabinet papers from 1979, when Britain became the first ever European country to take a loan from the IMF - £3.9Bn. I particularly draw your attention to the late November and early December memoranda, where the cabinet is doing a perfect imitation of a coop of headless chickens, and admitted that the 1974 'economic' policy had totally failed. The papers, originally top secret, have been declassified. It was this that ruined British industry, and Thatcher had to put it right.
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As a rule I try not to offer opinions about other nation's politics or government but I'll make an exception here. I always liked Maggie.
Thatcher Quote:
The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
Hmmm. Did you also like:
Quote (Speech to the UN Nov 8th 1989):
But the problem of global climate change is one that affects us all and action will only be effective if it is taken at the international level. It is no good squabbling over who is responsible or who should pay. We have to look forward not backward, and we shall only succeed in dealing with the problems through a vast international, co-operative effort. The environmental challenge that confronts the whole world demands an equivalent response from the whole world. Every country will be affected and no one can opt out. Those countries who are industrialised must contribute more to help those who are not.
Other people's money, indeed.
All that is necessary for Evil to succeed is for Good Folks to keep voting for their Party. - Cornelius Thirp
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Hmmm. Did you also like:
Quote (Speech to the UN Nov 8th 1989):
But the problem of global climate change is one that affects us all and action will only be effective if it is taken at the international level. It is no good squabbling over who is responsible or who should pay. We have to look forward not backward, and we shall only succeed in dealing with the problems through a vast international, co-operative effort. The environmental challenge that confronts the whole world demands an equivalent response from the whole world. Every country will be affected and no one can opt out. Those countries who are industrialised must contribute more to help those who are not.
Other people's money, indeed.
All that is necessary for Evil to succeed is for Good Folks to keep voting for their Party. - Cornelius Thirp
ict558 wrote:
Did you also like
Sure, why not? :confused: Not sure what you're driving at but I suspect it's not appropriate for the Lounge.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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While I do think she was the last real man who occupied the role of PM, I don't believe she was the greatest PM. You belittle the nodding dog with this; "Oh Yes".
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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ict558 wrote:
Did you also like
Sure, why not? :confused: Not sure what you're driving at but I suspect it's not appropriate for the Lounge.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Not sure what you're driving at
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... who should pay ... Those countries who are industrialised must contribute more to help those who are not.
Appears to be recommending a socialist-style distribution of wealth, that's all.
All that is necessary for Evil to succeed is for Good Folks to keep voting for their Party. - Cornelius Thirp
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Not sure what you're driving at
Quote:
... who should pay ... Those countries who are industrialised must contribute more to help those who are not.
Appears to be recommending a socialist-style distribution of wealth, that's all.
All that is necessary for Evil to succeed is for Good Folks to keep voting for their Party. - Cornelius Thirp
ict558 wrote:
ppears to be recommending a socialist-style distribution of wealth
Weak. It's probably a fair assumption that industrialized countries are contributing more to the problem so expecting them to contribute more to the solution is only fair.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington