Anti War Protest
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Frankly I find it totally sickening that so many people have gone out marching in support of Saddam Hussain being allowed to just ignore the rest of the world telling him to disarm. What the hell do they think they are doing?
frankly i find it morally reprehensible when people equate anything but pro-Bush/War as being pro-Saddam. if you want to live in a country where the choice, for everything, is pro-Leader or anti-Leader, then Iraq (or North Korea) is probably ideal. and, by the way, there's more than one way to force a country to disarm (ask South Africa). -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
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Frankly I find it totally sickening that so many people have gone out marching in support of Saddam Hussain being allowed to just ignore the rest of the world telling him to disarm. What the hell do they think they are doing?
John Burton wrote: I find it totally sickening that so many people have gone out marching in support of Saddam Hussain being allowed to just ignore the rest of the world telling him to disarm. I find it very interesting. It's not really the South African way (we even struggle to stand up for mundane things like consumer rights), so it was quite eye-opening for me to be in the UK while all this is going on. I don't really know, but I think perhaps they are rather standing up for their democracy. They seem to feel that the people they voted for aren't listening to them. Possibly if the UN was behind it they would be reacting differently. But I may be totally off here. Still, from a recording of history point of view, I was very happy to be running around the back streets to different points where the marchers would pass something historical (eg. Big Ben). I won't forget all the things I saw on 15 Feb 2003 in a hurry. :)
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
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Looking at the pics...:laugh: Great shots! I love the signs: "Blair, stop being Bush's Bitch" and "Blair's Blood First" Very cool:cool: Later,
JoeSox
www.joeswammi.com Untitled[^]JoeSox wrote: I love the signs: "Blair, stop being Bush's Bitch" Pretty incredible, especially as it was carried by teenage girls! :-D JoeSox wrote: Great shots! Thanks :)
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
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Nice pics, Megan! Brings back memories of the Vietnam days. The people, the signs, the chanting and songs, the smell of tear gas and banks burning... :) It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003Were you at Woodstock too? :rolleyes::-D -- Ihre ganze Unterseite sind gehören uns.
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Well, we are back from it early, having left before it got dark (And any colder! Damn it was freezing - typical grey English day). I have never seen so many people in one place before - they are estimating around 2 million at the moment. We were running up and down along the route to get photo's of the various points, rather than in the crowd, and they just kept coming and coming. Unbelievable. And all in a good, peaceful mood. I hope it stays that way as the evening wears on. So were any other CPian's either there, or at one of the other protests around the world? Sorry I couldn't allow my :bob: shirt to be seen - he was warmly wrapped up under 1 jersey and 2 jackets. :-O Here are a couple of the shots London Protest[^]. What a shame the blue sky they promised for today was replaced with heavy grey clouds. Oh well - it was one of the most interesting days of my life so far :cool:
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
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Very good pictures. My favourite is : "Blair: Stop being Bush's Bitch" ;P BTW, Is it a free photo-storage site? or Is it subscription based Photo Storage site? Follow live World Cup Cricket scores here[^]
Kant wrote: BTW, Is it a free photo-storage site? or Is it subscription based Photo Storage site? It's a free site for up to 100 photo's. If you donate then you can store 200. Quite nice as an album. For critique I like to upload shots to Usefilm[^], which is also free, although you are limited to the amount you can upload each day to give people time to look at them. Sorry about the result today BTW - pleased to see you still with a sense of humour! :rose:
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
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Kant wrote: BTW, Is it a free photo-storage site? or Is it subscription based Photo Storage site? It's a free site for up to 100 photo's. If you donate then you can store 200. Quite nice as an album. For critique I like to upload shots to Usefilm[^], which is also free, although you are limited to the amount you can upload each day to give people time to look at them. Sorry about the result today BTW - pleased to see you still with a sense of humour! :rose:
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
also check out www.photographyreview.com -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
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Were you at Woodstock too? :rolleyes::-D -- Ihre ganze Unterseite sind gehören uns.
Nope. I couldn't get a note from my mother to get out of school that day. ;P It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
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frankly i find it morally reprehensible when people equate anything but pro-Bush/War as being pro-Saddam. if you want to live in a country where the choice, for everything, is pro-Leader or anti-Leader, then Iraq (or North Korea) is probably ideal. and, by the way, there's more than one way to force a country to disarm (ask South Africa). -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
Fully agree. Pavel Sonork 100.15206
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Well, we are back from it early, having left before it got dark (And any colder! Damn it was freezing - typical grey English day). I have never seen so many people in one place before - they are estimating around 2 million at the moment. We were running up and down along the route to get photo's of the various points, rather than in the crowd, and they just kept coming and coming. Unbelievable. And all in a good, peaceful mood. I hope it stays that way as the evening wears on. So were any other CPian's either there, or at one of the other protests around the world? Sorry I couldn't allow my :bob: shirt to be seen - he was warmly wrapped up under 1 jersey and 2 jackets. :-O Here are a couple of the shots London Protest[^]. What a shame the blue sky they promised for today was replaced with heavy grey clouds. Oh well - it was one of the most interesting days of my life so far :cool:
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
Two things. First, you do realize you're going to make absolutly no difference in what Dumbya+BlairWitch wants to do, right? Second, your face is now probably on the offical watch list. If you want to change things, you need to buy your own political goon or have important friends in high places. Otherwise, you're just like the rest of us, a great unwashed mass. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. But hey, if you want to go out, show your displeasure at the way things are, and then go back and see how little if anything changes, that's your preogative.
Through 86 years of perpetual motion, if he likes you he'll smile and he'll say, "Some of it's magic, some of it's tragic, but I had a good life all the way"
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frankly i find it morally reprehensible when people equate anything but pro-Bush/War as being pro-Saddam. if you want to live in a country where the choice, for everything, is pro-Leader or anti-Leader, then Iraq (or North Korea) is probably ideal. and, by the way, there's more than one way to force a country to disarm (ask South Africa). -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
Actually, Chris has a good point there. (Don't die from shock Chris) It is the same problem with the morons who say that any American who isn't for the war is anti-american. That just isn't logical. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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also check out www.photographyreview.com -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
Chris Losinger wrote: also check out www.photographyreview.com Thanks, cool site. Do you have anything posted there?
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
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Two things. First, you do realize you're going to make absolutly no difference in what Dumbya+BlairWitch wants to do, right? Second, your face is now probably on the offical watch list. If you want to change things, you need to buy your own political goon or have important friends in high places. Otherwise, you're just like the rest of us, a great unwashed mass. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. But hey, if you want to go out, show your displeasure at the way things are, and then go back and see how little if anything changes, that's your preogative.
Through 86 years of perpetual motion, if he likes you he'll smile and he'll say, "Some of it's magic, some of it's tragic, but I had a good life all the way"
Bitterman wrote: First, you do realize you're going to make absolutly no difference in what Dumbya+BlairWitch wants to do, right? What you getting so upset about? If you read my post you will see that I didn't march. If I had marched I wouldn't have been able to run from one point to the next to get photo's of the marchers at different points. Photography is my hobby. Today history was made - people all around the world were involved in the same march. I come from a smallish South African town called Nelspruit (well, actually a game farm about 100Km from Nelspruit), but am currently working as a developer for a financial services firm in the UK. It was very interesting for me to go and see something new, and test my photographic skills on a human crowd seeing as my experience all my life has been taking shots of wildlife. Bitterman wrote: your face is now probably on the offical watch list Seeing as I have nothing to hide, this really doesn't bother me. Bitterman wrote: a great unwashed mass Strangely enough, that is this farm girls' favourite thing about London - I am just as anonymous here as I am in the bush, but here it is because there are so many people, noone could possibly care about or notice all of us.
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
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Frankly I find it totally sickening that so many people have gone out marching in support of Saddam Hussain being allowed to just ignore the rest of the world telling him to disarm. What the hell do they think they are doing?
What is sickening you here? Is it that they decided to exercise their democratic rights that sickens you? I think that there should be a referendum/poll in every country which wants to go to war, before they do. If a majority of the people wants to go to war, they might as well. But, a few people deciding on such a major issue (and using patriotism as a stick to ensure compliance) is sickening in any democracy. What I make of the current situation (for whatever it is worth) The UN agreed that they want Iraq to disarm. But, a large section of the world, including the security council permenant members China, Russia and France, does not want to go to war - atleast for now. United States administration thinks that there is no other way out. It seems like a disagreement to me, about what to do next as a matter of implementation, rather than the outcome. Take into perspective the following: - United States wants the US military to run Iraq for a period after Saddam is overthrown. I heard this on NPR (NewYork Public Radio), which is hardly a pro-Iraq propaganda machine. The Iraqi leaders in exile are very sad about their being sidelined. One of the leaders were quoted as "Many in the US administration and US allies in the Middle East, particularly Saudi Arabia, does not want to see democracy in Iraq. Democracy is contagious and they are afraid that the wave will spread though the Middle East once Iraq becomes democratic". - United States wants to use chemical weapons in the war. As Chris Losinger had given text and links to 1993 treaty of banned weapons, riot-control agents are illegal weapona and their use should be considered a war crime. ...and Mr Donald Rumsfeld wants to do that. Doing illegal things and not honouring treaties does not become right, if you are a democracy. It is up to the people of democratic countries to stand up and fight for what they believe in. There are serious questions that need to be answered before a war can be approved by any world body. 1. Is Iraq a threat tomorrow that justifies the deaths of a large number of Iraqi people (I will not use the propaganda phrase "innocent civilians", even though in the case of a war they had much less choice about it that US/UK civilians )? 2. What is the proposed replacement government after Saddam is overthrown? 3. What are the economic fallouts of this for countries who have business relationships with Iraq at present? Will they be honoured? The weapons inspectors have found nothing conclusive to ascertain the current stat
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Chris Losinger wrote: also check out www.photographyreview.com Thanks, cool site. Do you have anything posted there?
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
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Frankly I find it totally sickening that so many people have gone out marching in support of Saddam Hussain being allowed to just ignore the rest of the world telling him to disarm. What the hell do they think they are doing?
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That lake sunrise one is awesome! :-D
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
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frankly i find it morally reprehensible when people equate anything but pro-Bush/War as being pro-Saddam. if you want to live in a country where the choice, for everything, is pro-Leader or anti-Leader, then Iraq (or North Korea) is probably ideal. and, by the way, there's more than one way to force a country to disarm (ask South Africa). -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
Apologies, Chris. This was in parallel to your message, not a reply to it :-O Perhaps if parilment (you know, where the represntatives of the voters go) were allowed to vote on wether we should send our soldiers to die this might not happen. Tony Blair has said there will be a vote after the troops are deployed :mad: Maybe you like being patronised by your government but we don't. Elaine The tigress is here :-D
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Two things. First, you do realize you're going to make absolutly no difference in what Dumbya+BlairWitch wants to do, right? Second, your face is now probably on the offical watch list. If you want to change things, you need to buy your own political goon or have important friends in high places. Otherwise, you're just like the rest of us, a great unwashed mass. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. But hey, if you want to go out, show your displeasure at the way things are, and then go back and see how little if anything changes, that's your preogative.
Through 86 years of perpetual motion, if he likes you he'll smile and he'll say, "Some of it's magic, some of it's tragic, but I had a good life all the way"
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Kant wrote: BTW, Is it a free photo-storage site? or Is it subscription based Photo Storage site? It's a free site for up to 100 photo's. If you donate then you can store 200. Quite nice as an album. For critique I like to upload shots to Usefilm[^], which is also free, although you are limited to the amount you can upload each day to give people time to look at them. Sorry about the result today BTW - pleased to see you still with a sense of humour! :rose:
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
Megan Forbes wrote: It's a free site for up to 100 photo's. If you donate then you can store 200. Quite nice as an album. Thx for the info. I just uploaded my first photo. Not a classic though. I just have a Digital Camera. :( http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1302111[^] Megan Forbes wrote: Sorry about the result today BTW - pleased to see you still with a sense of humour! Aghh... You are rubbing salt on the injury... I want to forget it as soon as possible. :) Follow live World Cup Cricket scores here[^]