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  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

    Today frequently I seeing a dialog like 'Waiting for background operation to complete ...' and this blocks the UI with a modal dialog. Did a M$ developer put a ! before isBackground and pushed (inadvertently) a patch to everyone?

    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
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    Hmmm. Not sure if you are referring to the notification for the designer window but that is not actually waiting for it to complete. It is modal but once you click OK you can do what you want, and that is what it is informing you of (the designer is still loading). The fact that the designer has not loaded is fine, they will load it in the background while you continue your work (even on the UI). It actually is a very nice feature IMO, although I do not need to be reminded of it every-time it occurs.

    Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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      Yeah, I've seen that too. WTF! It's in the effing background!!!. Why should the UI be hosed for a background task???!!?? :mad:

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      You may want to talk to Apple about that too.

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        Hmmm. Not sure if you are referring to the notification for the designer window but that is not actually waiting for it to complete. It is modal but once you click OK you can do what you want, and that is what it is informing you of (the designer is still loading). The fact that the designer has not loaded is fine, they will load it in the background while you continue your work (even on the UI). It actually is a very nice feature IMO, although I do not need to be reminded of it every-time it occurs.

        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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        If it's the same message I see, it's not the designer. It usually pops up when loading a project, but at one point it came up when I tried to copy some text to the clipboard with a LogMeIn session open. That one hosed the UI for several minutes. :mad:


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        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

          Today frequently I seeing a dialog like 'Waiting for background operation to complete ...' and this blocks the UI with a modal dialog. Did a M$ developer put a ! before isBackground and pushed (inadvertently) a patch to everyone?

          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
          --Brisingr Aerowing

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          Chris Losinger
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          i love it. i like to think it's a little joke between the VS12 developers and anyone who knows what "background" means.

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          • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

            Today frequently I seeing a dialog like 'Waiting for background operation to complete ...' and this blocks the UI with a modal dialog. Did a M$ developer put a ! before isBackground and pushed (inadvertently) a patch to everyone?

            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
            --Brisingr Aerowing

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            Marc A Brown
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            I've seen that one. I figured it was because I was trying to do something that depended on the completion of the background operation.

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            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

              Today frequently I seeing a dialog like 'Waiting for background operation to complete ...' and this blocks the UI with a modal dialog. Did a M$ developer put a ! before isBackground and pushed (inadvertently) a patch to everyone?

              Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
              --Brisingr Aerowing

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              It's actually a new form of "security" required by the US government — part of the global war on hacking. You are not allowed to proceed with software development until a background check is performed. If you attempt to circumvent this one-way "dialog", you will be blocked and the background check may be delayed.

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                If it's the same message I see, it's not the designer. It usually pops up when loading a project, but at one point it came up when I tried to copy some text to the clipboard with a LogMeIn session open. That one hosed the UI for several minutes. :mad:


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                Yeah now that I think about it what I am referring to is not even a modal window. Odd that you are seeing this. Are you using some add-ins that are not traditional?

                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                  It's actually a new form of "security" required by the US government — part of the global war on hacking. You are not allowed to proceed with software development until a background check is performed. If you attempt to circumvent this one-way "dialog", you will be blocked and the background check may be delayed.

                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                  It can of course be circumvented by providing your bank routing and account numbers.

                  Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                    Today frequently I seeing a dialog like 'Waiting for background operation to complete ...' and this blocks the UI with a modal dialog. Did a M$ developer put a ! before isBackground and pushed (inadvertently) a patch to everyone?

                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
                    --Brisingr Aerowing

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                    Dave Calkins
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                    so it hasn't changed much from VS2010 I see :)

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                      Hmmm. Not sure if you are referring to the notification for the designer window but that is not actually waiting for it to complete. It is modal but once you click OK you can do what you want, and that is what it is informing you of (the designer is still loading). The fact that the designer has not loaded is fine, they will load it in the background while you continue your work (even on the UI). It actually is a very nice feature IMO, although I do not need to be reminded of it every-time it occurs.

                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                      Collin, It is the Html Source window. I seldom switch to designer mode.

                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
                      --Brisingr Aerowing

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                        so it hasn't changed much from VS2010 I see :)

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                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                        Dave Calkins wrote:

                        so it hasn't changed much from VS2010 I see :)

                        Except for the dark blue to gray color, I don't see any good improvements in the IDE.

                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
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                        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                          Today frequently I seeing a dialog like 'Waiting for background operation to complete ...' and this blocks the UI with a modal dialog. Did a M$ developer put a ! before isBackground and pushed (inadvertently) a patch to everyone?

                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
                          --Brisingr Aerowing

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                          Ravi Bhavnani
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                          "Waiting for" actually means "UI blocked because I'm waiting for". /ravi

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                            Yeah, I've seen that too. WTF! It's in the effing background!!!. Why should the UI be hosed for a background task???!!?? :mad:

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                            Dave Calkins
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                            That's like asking, why does Windows file explorer hang when I'm trying to access an unresponsive remote server? Who cares if its unresponsive, the whole UI shouldn't freeze up! :)

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                            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                              Today frequently I seeing a dialog like 'Waiting for background operation to complete ...' and this blocks the UI with a modal dialog. Did a M$ developer put a ! before isBackground and pushed (inadvertently) a patch to everyone?

                              Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
                              --Brisingr Aerowing

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                              Emmanuel Medina
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                              I sometimes get that when selecting a line of code and deleting... seems kinda retarded

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                                Yeah now that I think about it what I am referring to is not even a modal window. Odd that you are seeing this. Are you using some add-ins that are not traditional?

                                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                Collin Jasnoch wrote:

                                Are you using some add-ins that are not traditional?

                                I don't think so; just R# 7, GhostDoc, Productivity Power Tools, VSCommands, Web Essentials, Image Optimizer and SHFB. I suspect the clipboard problem was network latency; LogMeIn tries to synchronize the local and remote clipboard, so the copy operation will hang until the remote server responds.


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                  Collin Jasnoch wrote:

                                  Are you using some add-ins that are not traditional?

                                  I don't think so; just R# 7, GhostDoc, Productivity Power Tools, VSCommands, Web Essentials, Image Optimizer and SHFB. I suspect the clipboard problem was network latency; LogMeIn tries to synchronize the local and remote clipboard, so the copy operation will hang until the remote server responds.


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                  I am not familiar with LogMeIn, but that could be. I do know that resharper can kill performance if you turn on certain features as well.

                                  Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                    Dave Calkins wrote:

                                    so it hasn't changed much from VS2010 I see :)

                                    Except for the dark blue to gray color, I don't see any good improvements in the IDE.

                                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
                                    --Brisingr Aerowing

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                                    Dave Calkins
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                                    I read that with VS2012, building native C++ applications, you can no longer target Windows XP. That basically makes it a non-starter imo - still have customers which need to use XP. Plus, its hard to see what big improvements would actually drive using it anyway. Honestly, what could possibly be in the runtime library that would make it unable to run on XP. If there's some new feature XP doesn't have, then gracefully degrade and disable that. There's my rant :)

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                                      Collin, It is the Html Source window. I seldom switch to designer mode.

                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
                                      --Brisingr Aerowing

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                                      Are you using add-ins?

                                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                        Are you using add-ins?

                                        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                        No Collin. It is the brand new installation of Visual Studio 2012.

                                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
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                                        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                          No Collin. It is the brand new installation of Visual Studio 2012.

                                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage BRAINWAVE/1.0 Status-Code: 404 Status-Text: The requested brain could not be found. It may have been deleted or never installed.
                                          --Brisingr Aerowing

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                                          That is quite odd an unfortunate then. I have not had such issues, nor had I heard of any until your post. And I alone with all members of my team and some colleagues with in different companies tend to all have more than 3 instances open at the same time.

                                          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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