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  • J Joezer BH

    That's a great rule to remember! This feisty rule can help foreigners seize their spelling skills sufficiently well, what with all the weird words in scientific articles like species ... Oh my, what a great spelling rule it is, ehh? I haven't learnt it in vein!!! Great job you rule makers out there. Now I'm gonna get my shot of caffeine :java:

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    RichardGrimmer
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    Which is why, if QI is to be believed, it's not taught anymore - there are more exceptions than words that fit the rule

    C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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    • J Joezer BH

      That's a great rule to remember! This feisty rule can help foreigners seize their spelling skills sufficiently well, what with all the weird words in scientific articles like species ... Oh my, what a great spelling rule it is, ehh? I haven't learnt it in vein!!! Great job you rule makers out there. Now I'm gonna get my shot of caffeine :java:

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      RJOberg
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      I always heard a bit more to that rule. "I before E except after C, or as in 'A' like neighbor or weigh. Still doesn't explain all of them but at least it takes care of foreigners.

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      • J Joezer BH

        That's a great rule to remember! This feisty rule can help foreigners seize their spelling skills sufficiently well, what with all the weird words in scientific articles like species ... Oh my, what a great spelling rule it is, ehh? I haven't learnt it in vein!!! Great job you rule makers out there. Now I'm gonna get my shot of caffeine :java:

        Never underestimate the difference you can make in the lives of others.

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        Keith Barrow
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        The most useless rule I ever heard at school. I before E except after C. [Sometimes missed] and when the sound is "EE" [Almost never heard] and not when your name is Keith. Or any of the other words that break the rule.

        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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        • J Joezer BH

          That's a great rule to remember! This feisty rule can help foreigners seize their spelling skills sufficiently well, what with all the weird words in scientific articles like species ... Oh my, what a great spelling rule it is, ehh? I haven't learnt it in vein!!! Great job you rule makers out there. Now I'm gonna get my shot of caffeine :java:

          Never underestimate the difference you can make in the lives of others.

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          Dalek Dave
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          QI covered this a couple of years ago, showing that it is complete bollocks.

          --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. CCC Link[^]

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          • J Joezer BH

            That's a great rule to remember! This feisty rule can help foreigners seize their spelling skills sufficiently well, what with all the weird words in scientific articles like species ... Oh my, what a great spelling rule it is, ehh? I haven't learnt it in vein!!! Great job you rule makers out there. Now I'm gonna get my shot of caffeine :java:

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            Lost User
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            Of course it's BS, it's something taught in school. Here's an incomplete list of things taught in school: - you can't subtract a bigger number from a smaller one. - if you do it anyway, you can't take the square root of that. - all numbers can be written as a ratio between integers. - fallow deer grow up to be moose. - ponies grow up to be horses. - ladybugs gain a black dot every year they live. - various spelling- and grammar rules, all of which have so many exceptions that they're essentially useless.

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              Of course it's BS, it's something taught in school. Here's an incomplete list of things taught in school: - you can't subtract a bigger number from a smaller one. - if you do it anyway, you can't take the square root of that. - all numbers can be written as a ratio between integers. - fallow deer grow up to be moose. - ponies grow up to be horses. - ladybugs gain a black dot every year they live. - various spelling- and grammar rules, all of which have so many exceptions that they're essentially useless.

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              Keith Barrow
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              In my case I was told by my primary school teacher (when doing a project on sharks) that hammerhead sharks don't exist. I even provided a photo (and this was before photoshop etc) in one of my dad's wildlife books and was still told it didn't exist. Those who can, do. Those who can't teach. Those who can't teach end up with spelling-rule-breaking names in the Lounge.

              “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
              “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

              Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                Of course it's BS, it's something taught in school. Here's an incomplete list of things taught in school: - you can't subtract a bigger number from a smaller one. - if you do it anyway, you can't take the square root of that. - all numbers can be written as a ratio between integers. - fallow deer grow up to be moose. - ponies grow up to be horses. - ladybugs gain a black dot every year they live. - various spelling- and grammar rules, all of which have so many exceptions that they're essentially useless.

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                lewax00
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                harold aptroot wrote:

                - fallow deer grow up to be moose.
                - ponies grow up to be horses.
                - ladybugs gain a black dot every year they live.

                I was never told any of those, but then again, I lived in a rural area, so I guess we just knew better. ;P

                harold aptroot wrote:

                - if you do it anyway, you can't take the square root of that.

                Even into college they try to ignore imaginary numbers. Like "find all the real roots of this function", why stop there, I can find the complex ones too... :doh:

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                  In my case I was told by my primary school teacher (when doing a project on sharks) that hammerhead sharks don't exist. I even provided a photo (and this was before photoshop etc) in one of my dad's wildlife books and was still told it didn't exist. Those who can, do. Those who can't teach. Those who can't teach end up with spelling-rule-breaking names in the Lounge.

                  “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                  “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                  Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                  That happened to a student in the Middle School I went to. BUT! The principal was very into Marine Biology, and the day the teacher said all sorts of things (e.g. Hammerhead Sharks, Dolphins [ :doh: ], Blue Whales, etc) did not exist was the day the principal had gone in to the room to watch the class. That teacher did not last much longer there.

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                    That happened to a student in the Middle School I went to. BUT! The principal was very into Marine Biology, and the day the teacher said all sorts of things (e.g. Hammerhead Sharks, Dolphins [ :doh: ], Blue Whales, etc) did not exist was the day the principal had gone in to the room to watch the class. That teacher did not last much longer there.

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                    It seems to be happening suspiciously more often than I would expect based on random stupidity. How do they all come to that conclusion? Did they go to the beach, take a bucket of water out of the sea, and go "nope, there are definitely no Hammerhead Sharks in there" or something?

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                      It seems to be happening suspiciously more often than I would expect based on random stupidity. How do they all come to that conclusion? Did they go to the beach, take a bucket of water out of the sea, and go "nope, there are definitely no Hammerhead Sharks in there" or something?

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      harold aptroot wrote:

                      It seems to be happening suspiciously more often than I would expect based on random stupidity.

                      You've not worked in a school. Teacher: 0. not quite bright enough to the job they qualified for at uni(majority) 1. Bright but feckless and sloped into it by default (minority) 2. Actually wanted to teach and good at it, nomally through a misplaced moral sense. (very rare) At least in the UK.

                      “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                      “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                      Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                        harold aptroot wrote:

                        It seems to be happening suspiciously more often than I would expect based on random stupidity.

                        You've not worked in a school. Teacher: 0. not quite bright enough to the job they qualified for at uni(majority) 1. Bright but feckless and sloped into it by default (minority) 2. Actually wanted to teach and good at it, nomally through a misplaced moral sense. (very rare) At least in the UK.

                        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                        gavindon
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                        Keith Barrow wrote:

                        At least in the UK

                        sadly, not just there I promise ya.

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                        • J Joezer BH

                          That's a great rule to remember! This feisty rule can help foreigners seize their spelling skills sufficiently well, what with all the weird words in scientific articles like species ... Oh my, what a great spelling rule it is, ehh? I haven't learnt it in vein!!! Great job you rule makers out there. Now I'm gonna get my shot of caffeine :java:

                          Never underestimate the difference you can make in the lives of others.

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          or when sounding like 'A' as in neighbor and weigh.

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                            QI covered this a couple of years ago, showing that it is complete bollocks.

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            QI

                            "The circulating life force whose existence and properties are the basis of much Chinese philosophy and medicine" -- Really?

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                            • J Joezer BH

                              That's a great rule to remember! This feisty rule can help foreigners seize their spelling skills sufficiently well, what with all the weird words in scientific articles like species ... Oh my, what a great spelling rule it is, ehh? I haven't learnt it in vein!!! Great job you rule makers out there. Now I'm gonna get my shot of caffeine :java:

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Edo Tzumer wrote:

                              I haven't learnt it in vein!!!

                              And neither will you learn it in vein, since it's "in vain". /ravi

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                                Edo Tzumer wrote:

                                I haven't learnt it in vein!!!

                                And neither will you learn it in vein, since it's "in vain". /ravi

                                My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                Joezer BH
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                                :doh: Spelling doesn't run in my veins ...

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                                  :doh: Spelling doesn't run in my veins ...

                                  Never underestimate the difference you can make in the lives of others.

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                                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                                  :) /ravi

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