Not Metro Not Touch... Then what's special about windows 8?
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WINDOWS 8>>> It had metro, touch ui... but that's not the buzz!! Then what?? This is?? It took more than 20 years to MS to repair the window frame that was bent back in 98... albeit still skewed :laugh:
Its looking like M$ has conditioned us to Skip every other OS version. > Crap OS > fixed Crap OS > Crap OS > fixed Crap OS > Crap OS > fixed Crap OS SHIP IT! SHIP IT! SHIP IT! SHIP IT! SHIP IT! SHIP IT! SHIP IT! SHIP IT! SHIP IT!
Where there's smoke, there's a Blue Screen of death.
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WINDOWS 8>>> It had metro, touch ui... but that's not the buzz!! Then what?? This is?? It took more than 20 years to MS to repair the window frame that was bent back in 98... albeit still skewed :laugh:
Much faster boot times is the biggest thing for me with Win8. I think MS claims better encryption / security with IE10 as well. I have a touchscreen laptop and I enjoy the Modern UI apps for watching videos, surfing, and using news apps while still having the old desktop for doing my daily work. I Installed Classic Shell to get the start menu back on the desktop.
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Do you know (preferably not employed by Mickeysoft) anyone to whom Windows 8 makes any sense? :)
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It makes sense to me, Microsoft needed a OS that could be used in a tablet to leverage against Android and iOS, it's not perfect but I wasn't expecting perfection in a 1.0 product.
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
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WINDOWS 8>>> It had metro, touch ui... but that's not the buzz!! Then what?? This is?? It took more than 20 years to MS to repair the window frame that was bent back in 98... albeit still skewed :laugh:
Amitosh Swain wrote:
It took more than 20 years to MS to repair the window frame that was bent back in 98... albeit still skewed :laugh:
Since you apparently have a time machine and acess to at least 5 years into the future, could you please tell us which companies and technologies are going to win the next few rounds so we can prepare in advance?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Much faster boot times is the biggest thing for me with Win8. I think MS claims better encryption / security with IE10 as well. I have a touchscreen laptop and I enjoy the Modern UI apps for watching videos, surfing, and using news apps while still having the old desktop for doing my daily work. I Installed Classic Shell to get the start menu back on the desktop.
IE10 has a major security hole in combining the search and address boxes. If you mistype an intranet URL it goes off to your default search provider with whatever proprietary information may be in it. If you turn off automatic search you cannot manually search.
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IE10 has a major security hole in combining the search and address boxes. If you mistype an intranet URL it goes off to your default search provider with whatever proprietary information may be in it. If you turn off automatic search you cannot manually search.
since i'm in ie 10 but I'm not in an intranet so not a problem
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I used to think that, but after two months I've found a couple of problems that make it bad for even tablets: 1. Windows update is fickle, the process uninformative, and it will trigger on the most inopportune times. It assumes internet connectivity to be available at most times*, while people are often using portable devices (tablets, laptops) where it is not. 2. windows app store only makes sense with near constant internet connectivity*. Thats fine for smartphones, but not for tablets, and certainly not for any kind of laptop considering they're often used while travelling or commuting 3. settings: while the W8 search feature is great, if you want to adapt your setting for anything more complex than screen resolution, then you pretty much have to check multiple option screens in different places. If you found system control in W7 difficult to navigate, you'll find settings in W8 to be a nightmare. Check out energy saving options if you don't believe me... 4. "Modern" flat UI: there is no more graphical hint to discern labels from buttons or other menus. 'nough said. 5. "Modern" Start screen pollution on install: not sure about apps (I don't use or install any W8 apps), but installing desktop applications will automatically add every exectuable file to the start screen without asking! After installing VS 2010 I had to remove tons of icons for executables, most of which AFAIK can only be sensibly used from the command line! 6. Bad discoverability: this may be ok for phones, but on tablets or laptops with a considerable amount of screen estate there is no reason to hide away functionality by default. Why does it require an extra gesture to open the charm bar or any of the other main control and tool bars? Why can't I pin them permanently to the edge of the screen? The only good things about W8 are the considerably improved search capabilities and the improved performance. In it's current state I consider W8 a downgrade compared to W7, and I'm not sure Blue (W8.1) will change this. *: I am aware that you can get wireless internet connection for any device in most countries, but it is expensive compared to wired networks (especially with roaming fees). Even on my smart phone I normally switch off the internet data connection unless I use it, because having it active at all times adds considerable cost due to background app activity.
Stefan_Lang wrote:
*: I am aware that you can get wireless internet connection for any device in most countries, but it is expensive compared to wired networks (especially with roaming fees). Even on my smart phone I normally switch off the internet data connection unless I use it, because having it active at all times adds considerable cost due to background app activity.
Oh! Then think of me... in India, Odisha, Cuttack... WiFi is a dream.
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They took all the visual effects out and so it's very quick even on an old Celeron chip. - That's about it.
It works on there?? I heard it requires Pae which isn't on Celeron... coz I have got a Celeron box lying
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Amitosh Swain wrote:
It took more than 20 years to MS to repair the window frame that was bent back in 98... albeit still skewed :laugh:
Since you apparently have a time machine and acess to at least 5 years into the future, could you please tell us which companies and technologies are going to win the next few rounds so we can prepare in advance?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Dan Neely wrote:
Since you apparently have a time machine and acess to at least 5 years into the future, could you please tell us which companies and technologies are going to win the next few rounds so we can prepare in advance?
You can't change the future ;P
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WINDOWS 8>>> It had metro, touch ui... but that's not the buzz!! Then what?? This is?? It took more than 20 years to MS to repair the window frame that was bent back in 98... albeit still skewed :laugh:
What's special about Windows 8... Absolutely NOTHING... in fact I'd go the other way, Windows 8 is a total disaster, a huge step backwards. Every time I use it I get pissed at it and wish I never had to see it again.
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I used to think that, but after two months I've found a couple of problems that make it bad for even tablets: 1. Windows update is fickle, the process uninformative, and it will trigger on the most inopportune times. It assumes internet connectivity to be available at most times*, while people are often using portable devices (tablets, laptops) where it is not. 2. windows app store only makes sense with near constant internet connectivity*. Thats fine for smartphones, but not for tablets, and certainly not for any kind of laptop considering they're often used while travelling or commuting 3. settings: while the W8 search feature is great, if you want to adapt your setting for anything more complex than screen resolution, then you pretty much have to check multiple option screens in different places. If you found system control in W7 difficult to navigate, you'll find settings in W8 to be a nightmare. Check out energy saving options if you don't believe me... 4. "Modern" flat UI: there is no more graphical hint to discern labels from buttons or other menus. 'nough said. 5. "Modern" Start screen pollution on install: not sure about apps (I don't use or install any W8 apps), but installing desktop applications will automatically add every exectuable file to the start screen without asking! After installing VS 2010 I had to remove tons of icons for executables, most of which AFAIK can only be sensibly used from the command line! 6. Bad discoverability: this may be ok for phones, but on tablets or laptops with a considerable amount of screen estate there is no reason to hide away functionality by default. Why does it require an extra gesture to open the charm bar or any of the other main control and tool bars? Why can't I pin them permanently to the edge of the screen? The only good things about W8 are the considerably improved search capabilities and the improved performance. In it's current state I consider W8 a downgrade compared to W7, and I'm not sure Blue (W8.1) will change this. *: I am aware that you can get wireless internet connection for any device in most countries, but it is expensive compared to wired networks (especially with roaming fees). Even on my smart phone I normally switch off the internet data connection unless I use it, because having it active at all times adds considerable cost due to background app activity.
W8 is not compatible with most of the PC. For my 23 inch All in one desktop the w8 supports just 21.5 inch :(
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What's special about Windows 8... Absolutely NOTHING... in fact I'd go the other way, Windows 8 is a total disaster, a huge step backwards. Every time I use it I get pissed at it and wish I never had to see it again.
+1 to the fact... (For being my supporter...) IMHO, win7 is my best... or better go for Linux!
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(1) Performance: Faster boot, loading and better execution times. (2) Convergence: Unified OS and UI for desktops, laptops, tablets and phones. (3) Integration: Far better integration with the cloud (SkyDrive, etc.) and web apps. The only negative I have found (and heard from clients) is the learning curve. Get over it. With computers, there is always something new to learn. Just because you've learned something 10 or 20 years ago, it doesn't mean it can support you forever. I do not work for Microsoft. I have Win8 on my desktop, 3 laptops, 2 tablets and my Windows Phone. I am a 63-year-old software developer and I am no gadget geek. I love Windows 8.
John Korondy wrote:
The only negative I have found (and heard from clients) is the learning curve. Get over it. With computers, there is always something new to learn. Just because you've learned something 10 or 20 years ago, it doesn't mean it can support you forever.
I agree that there's always something new to learn, but in this case, and especially for desktop users, the learning curve is too steep. If a new desktop user doesn't read all the buzz and watch every scrap of video (via another non-Win8 computer) before starting to use Windows 8, they hit a WTF wall with the new UI. For phone and tablet users, I suspect the exact opposite is true, but then, most people don't buy a laptop or desktop when they wanted a phone or tablet.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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since i'm in ie 10 but I'm not in an intranet so not a problem
If you mistype an internet URL it also goes to your search provider. So not only can they track what you search for but where you go.
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If you mistype an internet URL it also goes to your search provider. So not only can they track what you search for but where you go.
Yap...
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It works on there?? I heard it requires Pae which isn't on Celeron... coz I have got a Celeron box lying
It is yet another MS product I will never buy. I have almost all Ubuntu Linux at home; I have experimented with the rest, but by and large I find this system to be comfortable. My hardware IS a little mixed and it CAN cause issues at installation, so perhaps it isn't for everyone quite yet. Although most often everything just works. Free of course, plus lower costs. Also a free 5GB Cloud account per installed device, which I've unified into one 5GB and purchased 20GB extra storage for annually; this backs up documents and whatever immediately and syncs them across all my devices. Works for me. At work I use Ubuntu, win xp and win 7. We look on 8 with horror, and it's not for nothing WES 7 has a 20 year plan.
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It is yet another MS product I will never buy. I have almost all Ubuntu Linux at home; I have experimented with the rest, but by and large I find this system to be comfortable. My hardware IS a little mixed and it CAN cause issues at installation, so perhaps it isn't for everyone quite yet. Although most often everything just works. Free of course, plus lower costs. Also a free 5GB Cloud account per installed device, which I've unified into one 5GB and purchased 20GB extra storage for annually; this backs up documents and whatever immediately and syncs them across all my devices. Works for me. At work I use Ubuntu, win xp and win 7. We look on 8 with horror, and it's not for nothing WES 7 has a 20 year plan.
Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote:
It is yet another MS product I will never buy.
I have almost all Ubuntu Linux at home; I have experimented with the rest, but by and large I find this system to be comfortable.For me it's same... Just fedora instead of Ubuntu... only for the UI
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Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote:
It is yet another MS product I will never buy.
I have almost all Ubuntu Linux at home; I have experimented with the rest, but by and large I find this system to be comfortable.For me it's same... Just fedora instead of Ubuntu... only for the UI
Kudos Amitosh. I liked it but the security was above and beyond my normal level of paranoia! I talked to the Fedora firewall dev in the pub one night, and he said 'yes, that's how our people like it'. Very, very strong security. All I've got now is the baseball cap.
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Kudos Amitosh. I liked it but the security was above and beyond my normal level of paranoia! I talked to the Fedora firewall dev in the pub one night, and he said 'yes, that's how our people like it'. Very, very strong security. All I've got now is the baseball cap.
The devices where I've got Fedora don't even require a firewall, hardly they have been connected to the internet,,, But Fedora 16 is ageing... support has officially ended... so planning an upgrade :doh: Mammoth task
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The devices where I've got Fedora don't even require a firewall, hardly they have been connected to the internet,,, But Fedora 16 is ageing... support has officially ended... so planning an upgrade :doh: Mammoth task
That's what finally turned me off Fedora. I kept one in a corner, didn't even use it every week, and the update cycle broke. :((