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Does anybody 'Hide extensions for known file types'?

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    Rob Philpott
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    There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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    • R Rob Philpott

      There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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      LloydA111
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      Turning that "feature" off is one of the first things I do on any Windows install. I find it incredibly irritating having to rely in an icon in explorer to determine the file type. I don't know who in their right mind decided "Let's hide file extensions, that seems a great idea!".

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      • L LloydA111

        Turning that "feature" off is one of the first things I do on any Windows install. I find it incredibly irritating having to rely in an icon in explorer to determine the file type. I don't know who in their right mind decided "Let's hide file extensions, that seems a great idea!".

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        Matt U
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        I couldn't agree more. One of the very first things I do as well!

        djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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        • L LloydA111

          Turning that "feature" off is one of the first things I do on any Windows install. I find it incredibly irritating having to rely in an icon in explorer to determine the file type. I don't know who in their right mind decided "Let's hide file extensions, that seems a great idea!".

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          Lost User
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          Lloyd Atkinson wrote:

          I don't know who in their right mind decided "Let's hide file extensions, that seems a great idea!".

          Having been involved in supporting people who are not (to put it politely) PC-literate, for a number of years, I think it's an excellent idea. Extensions are just something else to confuse the lay-person, who really could not care less. They just want to know where their letter, leaflet, or bank statement can be found.

          Use the best guess

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          • L LloydA111

            Turning that "feature" off is one of the first things I do on any Windows install. I find it incredibly irritating having to rely in an icon in explorer to determine the file type. I don't know who in their right mind decided "Let's hide file extensions, that seems a great idea!".

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            Rob Philpott
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            I guess they think that having a dot then three letters is a bit cryptic for ordinary people, but you need something to say what it is. It's strange people's unwillingness to change. When Windows 95 came out I was wary of long file names (more than 8 characters) and avoided them for a while, because it was just 'not right'. My brain had adapted to fitting everything into 8 characters and that's what I wanted. Stockholm syndrome of the operating system variety, perhaps.

            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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            • R Rob Philpott

              There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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              Ron Nicholson
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              That is the first thing I do too. Mostly check everybox, or uncheck the hide ones, all the way down to Launch explorer in its own process. Never could understand why they were set that way. I also fix it on all pc's I have to support.

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              • R Rob Philpott

                I guess they think that having a dot then three letters is a bit cryptic for ordinary people, but you need something to say what it is. It's strange people's unwillingness to change. When Windows 95 came out I was wary of long file names (more than 8 characters) and avoided them for a while, because it was just 'not right'. My brain had adapted to fitting everything into 8 characters and that's what I wanted. Stockholm syndrome of the operating system variety, perhaps.

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                LloydA111
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                Rob Philpott wrote:

                having a dot then three letters is a bit cryptic for ordinary people

                I suppose, but if someone is really that confused and unable to use their computer because of this, should they be using one at all?

                Rob Philpott wrote:

                It's strange people's unwillingness to change. When Windows 95 came out I was wary of long file names (more than 8 characters) and avoided them for a while, because it was just 'not right'. My brain had adapted to fitting everything into 8 characters and that's what I wanted. Stockholm syndrome of the operating system variety, perhaps.

                I stick to lowercase filenames with no spaces, just because it's easier to type in a terminal, and it's just a pain to type file names with a space in on UNIX/Linux.

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                • R Rob Philpott

                  There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                  I turn them on.  Can't live without 'em. /ravi

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                  • R Rob Philpott

                    There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                    This is one of the things that Microsoft has done to dumb down the computer for the non-technical person, which has unfortunately confused the issue. Turning off that stupid feature is one of the first things I do when working on a new computer/new username. I also do it for people that I am helping. There are a lot of apps that use a data file that is the same as the app name, and choosing between "PictureViewer" and "PictureViewer" in explorer is just plain stupid and wrong. I am also frustrated by the dumb things that happen in a directory that have a jpg present. Many times I want to list files by date or size and this detail is taken away by explorer with the idiotic "customized views" feature. P.S. I install and mostly use Windows File Manager on my Windows machines (instead of Explorer), which can be found here[^].

                    -- Harvey

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                      This is one of the things that Microsoft has done to dumb down the computer for the non-technical person, which has unfortunately confused the issue. Turning off that stupid feature is one of the first things I do when working on a new computer/new username. I also do it for people that I am helping. There are a lot of apps that use a data file that is the same as the app name, and choosing between "PictureViewer" and "PictureViewer" in explorer is just plain stupid and wrong. I am also frustrated by the dumb things that happen in a directory that have a jpg present. Many times I want to list files by date or size and this detail is taken away by explorer with the idiotic "customized views" feature. P.S. I install and mostly use Windows File Manager on my Windows machines (instead of Explorer), which can be found here[^].

                      -- Harvey

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                      Rob Philpott
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                      H.Brydon wrote:

                      P.S. I install and mostly use Windows File Manager on my Windows machines (instead of Explorer), which can be found here[^].

                      Nice! I too was an advocate and didn't use explorer until they day they got rid of file manager, but I hadn't realised it lived on in the underworld... I know what you mean about custom views too, although its usually in my MP3s that all meaningful fields disappear.

                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                      • R Rob Philpott

                        There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                        Turn them on: makes no sense to keep them off.

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                        • R Rob Philpott

                          There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                          Maximilien
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                          Well, for us, technical persons, we will turn off that "feature", but for the rest of the user base, they don't care about file extensions.

                          Nihil obstat

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                          • R Rob Philpott

                            There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

                            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                            Without file extensions visible I have had real problems supporting non techies - at whom this 'feature' appears to be aimed. When a user opens a folder and sees two files with the same name, in my experience they NEVER know which is the one they want - so end up just double-clicking on one to see what happens. And users generally aren't very good at naming files themselves - so the word document, spreadsheet, powerpoint etc. are all called "budget"

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                            • R Rob Philpott

                              I guess they think that having a dot then three letters is a bit cryptic for ordinary people, but you need something to say what it is. It's strange people's unwillingness to change. When Windows 95 came out I was wary of long file names (more than 8 characters) and avoided them for a while, because it was just 'not right'. My brain had adapted to fitting everything into 8 characters and that's what I wanted. Stockholm syndrome of the operating system variety, perhaps.

                              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              Some of the file extensions I've used over the years: .CS300, .CS400, .CS410, .710PC: extensions for setup files for an application .Substrate: XML data defining a print substrate (e.g. paper) .Translator: Preferences for a multilingual resource editor I wrote It's been a looooong time since extensions could only be three characters or less.

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                              • R Rob Philpott

                                There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

                                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                MarkLTX
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                                I find it very frustrating when the file extensions are hidden.

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                                  Lloyd Atkinson wrote:

                                  I don't know who in their right mind decided "Let's hide file extensions, that seems a great idea!".

                                  Having been involved in supporting people who are not (to put it politely) PC-literate, for a number of years, I think it's an excellent idea. Extensions are just something else to confuse the lay-person, who really could not care less. They just want to know where their letter, leaflet, or bank statement can be found.

                                  Use the best guess

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                                  Kyudos
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                                  I don't see how that causes any confusion - it is just part of the file name. I would think the potential to have several files in the same location with (apparently) the same name would be more confusing...

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                                    Turning that "feature" off is one of the first things I do on any Windows install. I find it incredibly irritating having to rely in an icon in explorer to determine the file type. I don't know who in their right mind decided "Let's hide file extensions, that seems a great idea!".

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                                       |\_/|(\_)|\\\\  \_|\_o\_LII|\_
                                          \\.\_./// / | ==== | \\
                                          |\\\_/|"\` |\_| ==== |\_|
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                                          |-|-|    ||LI  o ||
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                                         /\_/ \\\_\\  /\_\_|    |\_\_\\
                                    
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                                    Fernando E Braz
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                                    this could go quietly into the jokes section.

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                                      Lloyd Atkinson wrote:

                                      I don't know who in their right mind decided "Let's hide file extensions, that seems a great idea!".

                                      Having been involved in supporting people who are not (to put it politely) PC-literate, for a number of years, I think it's an excellent idea. Extensions are just something else to confuse the lay-person, who really could not care less. They just want to know where their letter, leaflet, or bank statement can be found.

                                      Use the best guess

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                                      Espen Harlinn
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                                      And hiding "well known" extensions is less confusing? MaApplication -> MaApplication.exe MaApplication.exe -> MaApplication.exe.config

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                                      • R Rob Philpott

                                        There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

                                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                        AlphaDeltaTheta
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                                        Rob Philpott wrote:

                                        So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

                                        I turn it off but my sis turns in back on!

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                                        • R Rob Philpott

                                          There are few things as dull as installing Windows. I'm in the update stage and having downloaded the updates, it's installing them - 141 of them. That's just Windows, once I get Office on there and Visual Studio there'll be all the service packs as it morphs from 'Windows' to 'Microsoft' update. In my set-up routine I always go into file explorer and make all the file extensions show up as I'm simply lost without them. Also hidden files, but this time I'm going to leave system files hidden. So question - does anybody hide file extensions or does everybody turn them back on?

                                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                          dan sh
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                                          I guess that feature was kept in place to make sure that people with lesser computer related skills do not accidentally or out of curiosity change the extension of file and make it unusable. I personally keep the extensions and hidden files and folders all visible and set to details view.

                                          "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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