Finding a new job
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How do people in this sort of industry go about finding new jobs? I've been approached for my last two appointments, so it is 13 years since I was actively looking for work, and that was as a recent graduate. Job websites don't tell you what the salary is, who the job is for, or where the job is in the most part that I can make out. People constantly moan about recruitment agents and their like, but are they simply a necessary evil? And failing all else, anyone who works for an interesting company need a well payed man to mess about with their IT shizzle? (I don't want to get too technical at this stage.)
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
ChrisElston wrote:
People constantly moan about recruitment agents and their like, but are they simply a necessary evil?
I hate to refer to them as a necessary evil because I have worked with some really good recruiters. on the flip I have also seen some really bad ones. technical recruiting is a hard industry to work in based on what I have heard from the good ones that are friends of mine. it is littered with a lot of people who are the equivalent of used car salesmen.
as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged
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How do people in this sort of industry go about finding new jobs? I've been approached for my last two appointments, so it is 13 years since I was actively looking for work, and that was as a recent graduate. Job websites don't tell you what the salary is, who the job is for, or where the job is in the most part that I can make out. People constantly moan about recruitment agents and their like, but are they simply a necessary evil? And failing all else, anyone who works for an interesting company need a well payed man to mess about with their IT shizzle? (I don't want to get too technical at this stage.)
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
Not sure it's a good idea getting a tip from developers who sit down and write forum posts all day :sigh: :pause: Actually the other way around! ;)
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Not sure it's a good idea getting a tip from developers who sit down and write forum posts all day :sigh: :pause: Actually the other way around! ;)
Never underestimate the difference U can make in the lives of others.
∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥
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How do people in this sort of industry go about finding new jobs? I've been approached for my last two appointments, so it is 13 years since I was actively looking for work, and that was as a recent graduate. Job websites don't tell you what the salary is, who the job is for, or where the job is in the most part that I can make out. People constantly moan about recruitment agents and their like, but are they simply a necessary evil? And failing all else, anyone who works for an interesting company need a well payed man to mess about with their IT shizzle? (I don't want to get too technical at this stage.)
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
Finding graduate jobs is easy, because lots of companies have lots of openings there. I think it's rather more difficult if you want to drop straight in at a high level, because there aren't many openings there, and what you are expected to know in each company is different. Stick your CV in a few places where people can find it (e.g. LinkedIn, Monster, etc). Look for companies that you think you'd like to work for in your area, and send them letters directly asking whether they have, currently or in the forseeable future, vacancies in the kind of role that you're trying to pick up, with a bit of standard cover letter stuff about why it's a good fit and so on.
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ChrisElston wrote:
People constantly moan about recruitment agents and their like, but are they simply a necessary evil?
I hate to refer to them as a necessary evil because I have worked with some really good recruiters. on the flip I have also seen some really bad ones. technical recruiting is a hard industry to work in based on what I have heard from the good ones that are friends of mine. it is littered with a lot of people who are the equivalent of used car salesmen.
as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged
Dennis E White wrote:
a lot of people who are the equivalent of used car salesmen.
I beg to differ: Used car salesmen have some idea what a car is and what you might want to do with it.
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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How do people in this sort of industry go about finding new jobs? I've been approached for my last two appointments, so it is 13 years since I was actively looking for work, and that was as a recent graduate. Job websites don't tell you what the salary is, who the job is for, or where the job is in the most part that I can make out. People constantly moan about recruitment agents and their like, but are they simply a necessary evil? And failing all else, anyone who works for an interesting company need a well payed man to mess about with their IT shizzle? (I don't want to get too technical at this stage.)
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
We tried to hire in Dallas and got pretty average responses. We went to a recruitment agency and they found us enough really good candidates that we had our pick and filled the roles with really good devs. I'd say that recruitment agencies, if you go to the right one, are really very helpful to all concerned, based on our experience.
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How do people in this sort of industry go about finding new jobs? I've been approached for my last two appointments, so it is 13 years since I was actively looking for work, and that was as a recent graduate. Job websites don't tell you what the salary is, who the job is for, or where the job is in the most part that I can make out. People constantly moan about recruitment agents and their like, but are they simply a necessary evil? And failing all else, anyone who works for an interesting company need a well payed man to mess about with their IT shizzle? (I don't want to get too technical at this stage.)
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
From my own experience IF you want a lot of calls from a lot of recruitment agents then stick it on Monster but it is a pain in the rear getting them to stop calling after you find a new job. LinkedIn at the moment is being a recruitment agents honey, I get around 3 or 4 email a month asking about jobs etc (and I'm not looking), just be-careful as some of them will attempt to contact you at work.
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How do people in this sort of industry go about finding new jobs? I've been approached for my last two appointments, so it is 13 years since I was actively looking for work, and that was as a recent graduate. Job websites don't tell you what the salary is, who the job is for, or where the job is in the most part that I can make out. People constantly moan about recruitment agents and their like, but are they simply a necessary evil? And failing all else, anyone who works for an interesting company need a well payed man to mess about with their IT shizzle? (I don't want to get too technical at this stage.)
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
Put your resume on dice.com and make it public. You'll get swamped with recruiters. With a little experience, you'll find which ones are reputable and how they specialize. If you want to live in Utah, we're interviewing.
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If you happen to summon the devil himself though, try to get behind it in the post office line , since the devil has many forms.
Never underestimate the difference U can make in the lives of others.
∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥
