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  • C Christian Graus

    Awesome - should be a good show...

    Michael Martin wrote:

    Just get more cash. Anything will do, it doesn't even have to be alcohol or tech related.

    I could get some Justin Beiber stickers, or a One Direction notebook ?

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    Christian Graus wrote:

    I could get some Justin Beiber stickers, or a One Direction notebook ?

    The daughter bought One Direction concert tickets last year with her own dollars. More than a year out from the concert. I'm sure she'd love the One Direction notebook. Considering the number of posters in her room and the shite she's already purchased from their store in town, anyway.

    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      I could get some Justin Beiber stickers, or a One Direction notebook ?

      The daughter bought One Direction concert tickets last year with her own dollars. More than a year out from the concert. I'm sure she'd love the One Direction notebook. Considering the number of posters in her room and the shite she's already purchased from their store in town, anyway.

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      Hannah despises both of them, and she doesn't like when I tell her she is so vocal because she knows deep down that the love she gave to High School Musical and Jonas Bros would have gone to Beiber and 1D if she'd just been a little younger.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      • C Christian Graus

        So, last day in Dallas today. Been an OK trip, although I've been quite ill for a few days. We went to Walmart, I always check out the t-shirts, and buy some stuff for the kids. Got to the checkout, swipe my AMEX, it asks for the 'three digit code on the back'. Two issues. 1 - my Westpac card has the code on the front, which generates ALL sorts of arguments with the people running the checkouts when issues arise 2 - ALL Amex cards have FOUR digit codes. So, the machine asks for a code, I try to enter the last 3, and it asks me to sign, then says 'rejected'. I try my Mastercard ( same account ), does not ask for code, but, rejected. I try my EFTPOS card. Rejected. I try my debit VISA ( which is a different bank ). Rejected. All these cards work at target, at best buy, at starbucks, etc. I ended up getting the half of my order that I had cash for on me. This morning I go to buy medicine ( I am sick, remember ? ). My card does not work. Thankfully, I have enough cash, but I call my bank. No, they blocked my card due to suspicious transactions. Which ones ? The 8-10 that were sent by Walmart while they tried to make my card ( which is fine ) work with their system ( which apparently is not ).

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        I have boycotted Walmart, they suck on so many levels.

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        • C Christian Graus

          So, last day in Dallas today. Been an OK trip, although I've been quite ill for a few days. We went to Walmart, I always check out the t-shirts, and buy some stuff for the kids. Got to the checkout, swipe my AMEX, it asks for the 'three digit code on the back'. Two issues. 1 - my Westpac card has the code on the front, which generates ALL sorts of arguments with the people running the checkouts when issues arise 2 - ALL Amex cards have FOUR digit codes. So, the machine asks for a code, I try to enter the last 3, and it asks me to sign, then says 'rejected'. I try my Mastercard ( same account ), does not ask for code, but, rejected. I try my EFTPOS card. Rejected. I try my debit VISA ( which is a different bank ). Rejected. All these cards work at target, at best buy, at starbucks, etc. I ended up getting the half of my order that I had cash for on me. This morning I go to buy medicine ( I am sick, remember ? ). My card does not work. Thankfully, I have enough cash, but I call my bank. No, they blocked my card due to suspicious transactions. Which ones ? The 8-10 that were sent by Walmart while they tried to make my card ( which is fine ) work with their system ( which apparently is not ).

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          Back before Walmart joined my boycott list for obvious reasons, I would get my credit cards blocked for Fraudulent activity whenever I went out of town and went to a Walmart. It seems Walmart is a major ref flag for CC theft... what does that tell you?

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            I have boycotted Walmart, they suck on so many levels.

            VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.

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            I make one trip, they have different shirts to Target, and I go to both. Most things, I get delivered from Amazon before I even arrive.

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              Back before Walmart joined my boycott list for obvious reasons, I would get my credit cards blocked for Fraudulent activity whenever I went out of town and went to a Walmart. It seems Walmart is a major ref flag for CC theft... what does that tell you?

              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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              Christian Graus
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              *grin* yes, that much is clear to me. But, surely the system can let an out of town guy make one purchase every visit ?

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                I have boycotted Walmart, they suck on so many levels.

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Bit like Michael Douglas...

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                • C Christian Graus

                  There is a 3 digit code on the back of a Mastercard or Visa. The number on the back is just my credit card number. I thought I'd tried the last three digits of my credit card number. I guess you're saying I didn't, and that my Mastercard had then been blocked because of the failed transactions with the Amex ?

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                  Not sure about the Mastercard. I ran into this issue as well with AMEX as other cards have a more obvious 3 digit security code on the back, where as the AMEX is 4 digits and on the front. However, Walmart's system is not asking for that. It for some reason is asking for the last 3 digits of the signature code. They are not the last of the account. If you look at the sig area it has your account number followed by 3 other numbers. Entering that allows the AMEX to get approved (atleast for me). If you then tried to run Mastercard or someother card and it was failing that would mean the teller did not back out of the AMEX transaction properly because I do not think it prompts for the sig code under those cards (not possitive though... Haven't had a mastercard in a while, but I know Visa does not). On a side note I have also found that the magnetic readers at Walmart suck. One of the workers one time showed me that if you take a plastic bag and wrap your card in it and then swipe it may work. :wtf: I was dumbfounded that it worked and that the employee got it to work.

                  Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    In this case, it was that the transaction was attempted so often. I've had a card blocked because they were suspicious about a $12 transaction in a different state at home, with a well known company that does school book clubs. Yes, my son's book with the school book club, melted down my credit card. It's nuts but, I've had fraud on my card, once, and the bank just kept giving me my money back. That they are that good about it, means they have to be careful to try to be proactive, so they don't lose money to fraud. I always have to tell the bank when I travel, although I don't have to tell them when I go interstate ( which is a longer distance than anywhere in the UK ).

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Sure fire way to get a card blocked, or at least a call from the bank (at least here in the US, mentioned by John Dvorak on This Week in Tech AFTER it had happened to me once): 1. Buy a pair (or two) of shoes. 2. Fill more than one tank of gas on the same card within an hour or so of doing #1 3. Wait for call from bank. The reason? A common pattern for stolen or "found" CC's is that it's by teenagers who then go buy "nice" basketball shoes, then fill up the gas tanks of their car and their friends. I did also get a temporary block when my card was used to book three different hotels in South Korea in three nights. Only problem was that it was actually me on a business trip (and our company has something against business CC's). The first two hotels were on the same block in Seoul, which I'm sure looked odd but was due to scarce rooms during the G20 summit, which was NOT my reason for being there. That's when I learned the "Warn your CC company before you go overseas" rule :) It's actually nice to know the companies know what suspicious activity to look for, though it could get annoying if they get overzealous with it.

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                      Not sure about the Mastercard. I ran into this issue as well with AMEX as other cards have a more obvious 3 digit security code on the back, where as the AMEX is 4 digits and on the front. However, Walmart's system is not asking for that. It for some reason is asking for the last 3 digits of the signature code. They are not the last of the account. If you look at the sig area it has your account number followed by 3 other numbers. Entering that allows the AMEX to get approved (atleast for me). If you then tried to run Mastercard or someother card and it was failing that would mean the teller did not back out of the AMEX transaction properly because I do not think it prompts for the sig code under those cards (not possitive though... Haven't had a mastercard in a while, but I know Visa does not). On a side note I have also found that the magnetic readers at Walmart suck. One of the workers one time showed me that if you take a plastic bag and wrap your card in it and then swipe it may work. :wtf: I was dumbfounded that it worked and that the employee got it to work.

                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                      Herein lies the issue. My Visa or Mastercard has, on the back, the number, plus three additional digits. My AMEX does not. So I guess it's a difference because my card is not from AMEX, but a bank. But, why does AMEX have two security codes ? My mastercard is the same card as my AMEX, so once the AMEX was blocked, my mastercard was blocked. Yeah, I've seen the plastic bag trick, too :-)

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        So, last day in Dallas today. Been an OK trip, although I've been quite ill for a few days. We went to Walmart, I always check out the t-shirts, and buy some stuff for the kids. Got to the checkout, swipe my AMEX, it asks for the 'three digit code on the back'. Two issues. 1 - my Westpac card has the code on the front, which generates ALL sorts of arguments with the people running the checkouts when issues arise 2 - ALL Amex cards have FOUR digit codes. So, the machine asks for a code, I try to enter the last 3, and it asks me to sign, then says 'rejected'. I try my Mastercard ( same account ), does not ask for code, but, rejected. I try my EFTPOS card. Rejected. I try my debit VISA ( which is a different bank ). Rejected. All these cards work at target, at best buy, at starbucks, etc. I ended up getting the half of my order that I had cash for on me. This morning I go to buy medicine ( I am sick, remember ? ). My card does not work. Thankfully, I have enough cash, but I call my bank. No, they blocked my card due to suspicious transactions. Which ones ? The 8-10 that were sent by Walmart while they tried to make my card ( which is fine ) work with their system ( which apparently is not ).

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Dave Kreskowiak
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                        That's OK. Everybody in the US with an IQ above that required for spontaneous respiration hates them too. We'll convert you to a Yank yet!

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                          I have boycotted Walmart, they suck on so many levels.

                          VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.

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                          Sing it brother! amen!

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            Herein lies the issue. My Visa or Mastercard has, on the back, the number, plus three additional digits. My AMEX does not. So I guess it's a difference because my card is not from AMEX, but a bank. But, why does AMEX have two security codes ? My mastercard is the same card as my AMEX, so once the AMEX was blocked, my mastercard was blocked. Yeah, I've seen the plastic bag trick, too :-)

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            So I guess it's a difference because my card is not from AMEX, but a bank.

                            Yep, I bet that's it. Yeah, I guess you are screwed on using it at Wall-land then. Yeah, and since they are tied that would have locked them down I bet. Unfortunate.

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Yeah, I've seen the plastic bag trick, too :)

                            Weird right?

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                              Sure fire way to get a card blocked, or at least a call from the bank (at least here in the US, mentioned by John Dvorak on This Week in Tech AFTER it had happened to me once): 1. Buy a pair (or two) of shoes. 2. Fill more than one tank of gas on the same card within an hour or so of doing #1 3. Wait for call from bank. The reason? A common pattern for stolen or "found" CC's is that it's by teenagers who then go buy "nice" basketball shoes, then fill up the gas tanks of their car and their friends. I did also get a temporary block when my card was used to book three different hotels in South Korea in three nights. Only problem was that it was actually me on a business trip (and our company has something against business CC's). The first two hotels were on the same block in Seoul, which I'm sure looked odd but was due to scarce rooms during the G20 summit, which was NOT my reason for being there. That's when I learned the "Warn your CC company before you go overseas" rule :) It's actually nice to know the companies know what suspicious activity to look for, though it could get annoying if they get overzealous with it.

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                              David Kentley wrote:

                              Buy a pair (or two) of shoes

                              This actually happened to me. I saw two purchases for the same exact amount (around $75 each) from a shoe store in a different state (in a city over 8 hours away) within minutes of another purchase I made in my location (though I may have made my purchase with a different credit card, through the same bank). I had to call them to have them cancel those purchases. They have stopped my cards from working multiple times, but I don't think they've ever stopped a real fraudulent charge.

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                So I guess it's a difference because my card is not from AMEX, but a bank.

                                Yep, I bet that's it. Yeah, I guess you are screwed on using it at Wall-land then. Yeah, and since they are tied that would have locked them down I bet. Unfortunate.

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                Yeah, I've seen the plastic bag trick, too :)

                                Weird right?

                                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                Yeah, I don't know the logic behind the bag trick, but it seems to work, sometimes. Or perhaps a bag makes no difference at all, but when a card needs to be swiped several times before it works, random reinforcement has caused folks to believe it works....

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  So, last day in Dallas today. Been an OK trip, although I've been quite ill for a few days. We went to Walmart, I always check out the t-shirts, and buy some stuff for the kids. Got to the checkout, swipe my AMEX, it asks for the 'three digit code on the back'. Two issues. 1 - my Westpac card has the code on the front, which generates ALL sorts of arguments with the people running the checkouts when issues arise 2 - ALL Amex cards have FOUR digit codes. So, the machine asks for a code, I try to enter the last 3, and it asks me to sign, then says 'rejected'. I try my Mastercard ( same account ), does not ask for code, but, rejected. I try my EFTPOS card. Rejected. I try my debit VISA ( which is a different bank ). Rejected. All these cards work at target, at best buy, at starbucks, etc. I ended up getting the half of my order that I had cash for on me. This morning I go to buy medicine ( I am sick, remember ? ). My card does not work. Thankfully, I have enough cash, but I call my bank. No, they blocked my card due to suspicious transactions. Which ones ? The 8-10 that were sent by Walmart while they tried to make my card ( which is fine ) work with their system ( which apparently is not ).

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  A little over a month ago I came back from a trip to Colombia and Malaysia and used my cards with no problem. Then, the week after I got back, I bought something in Austin, TX and then went to see a movie with my wife. Wouldn't you know, they did contact me to see if the stuff I bought in Austin and the movie tickets were legit. On the other hand, my son-in-law had all of his cards copied somehow. He never lost the cards - they were all still in his wallet, but the WalMart did put a hold and the bank notified him within an hour or so of the first one. According to the police in Houston, there's been a rash of that going on, so the banks and stores are overly vigilant. If it had been your card that was indeed being used illegally, I'm pretty sure you'd be happy they didn't accept the card.

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                                    A little over a month ago I came back from a trip to Colombia and Malaysia and used my cards with no problem. Then, the week after I got back, I bought something in Austin, TX and then went to see a movie with my wife. Wouldn't you know, they did contact me to see if the stuff I bought in Austin and the movie tickets were legit. On the other hand, my son-in-law had all of his cards copied somehow. He never lost the cards - they were all still in his wallet, but the WalMart did put a hold and the bank notified him within an hour or so of the first one. According to the police in Houston, there's been a rash of that going on, so the banks and stores are overly vigilant. If it had been your card that was indeed being used illegally, I'm pretty sure you'd be happy they didn't accept the card.

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                                    Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

                                    If it had been your card that was indeed being used illegally, I'm pretty sure you'd be happy they didn't accept the card.

                                    of course, but it's like all security systems. I stood in a store, in the US, with my credit card and with id. I'd used this card all over Dallas before that night. No matter what I did, my card was rejected, and then blocked. No amount of 'if it was a false transaction' changes the fact that it wasn't, and the system stopped me from using my card in the manner for which it is intended.

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                                      Yeah, I don't know the logic behind the bag trick, but it seems to work, sometimes. Or perhaps a bag makes no difference at all, but when a card needs to be swiped several times before it works, random reinforcement has caused folks to believe it works....

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                                      At the dining halls in college, they swiped our student IDs to let us in. Sometimes if it didn't work, they would wrap the magnetic strip with a piece of paper, and that seemed to work... One of the weirdest things I've ever encountered, but it almost always worked.

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                                        So, last day in Dallas today. Been an OK trip, although I've been quite ill for a few days. We went to Walmart, I always check out the t-shirts, and buy some stuff for the kids. Got to the checkout, swipe my AMEX, it asks for the 'three digit code on the back'. Two issues. 1 - my Westpac card has the code on the front, which generates ALL sorts of arguments with the people running the checkouts when issues arise 2 - ALL Amex cards have FOUR digit codes. So, the machine asks for a code, I try to enter the last 3, and it asks me to sign, then says 'rejected'. I try my Mastercard ( same account ), does not ask for code, but, rejected. I try my EFTPOS card. Rejected. I try my debit VISA ( which is a different bank ). Rejected. All these cards work at target, at best buy, at starbucks, etc. I ended up getting the half of my order that I had cash for on me. This morning I go to buy medicine ( I am sick, remember ? ). My card does not work. Thankfully, I have enough cash, but I call my bank. No, they blocked my card due to suspicious transactions. Which ones ? The 8-10 that were sent by Walmart while they tried to make my card ( which is fine ) work with their system ( which apparently is not ).

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Joe Woodbury
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                                        My local Walmarts and a local grocery store chain have switched to Google Wallet POS terminals. They are slick, but how Google is involved is a mystery to me.

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                                          True but given this was before internet shopping...

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                                          djj55 wrote:

                                          True but given this was before internet shopping...

                                          Presumably as it was a company card you used it in restaurants where you handed the card to the server and they took it somewhere else and did with it as they wished.

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