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(Open)VMS - the end of an era

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    Ravi Bhavnani
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    Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi

    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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      Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi

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      Matthew Faithfull
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      RIP VMS. It was the first Gigabyte scale OS I ever came across and the last one to be fully documented on paper so it holds a special place in my personal history of computing. It will be interesting to see if its progeny go on to dominate the Terabyte era as well or if something genuinely conceptually new emerges.

      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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        RIP VMS. It was the first Gigabyte scale OS I ever came across and the last one to be fully documented on paper so it holds a special place in my personal history of computing. It will be interesting to see if its progeny go on to dominate the Terabyte era as well or if something genuinely conceptually new emerges.

        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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        YvesDaoust
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        Sad news. Future generations will miss it, and they won't even know. In my opinion, the last OS to be documented at all ;-) I have been missing the Digital Command Language for decades :-(

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          Sad news. Future generations will miss it, and they won't even know. In my opinion, the last OS to be documented at all ;-) I have been missing the Digital Command Language for decades :-(

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          Gary Wheeler
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          YvesDaoust wrote:

          Digital Command Language

          A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... I worked for a defense contractor. We had a project which required strict FORTRAN-77 adherence. We were using VAX FORTRAN on a microVAX-II running VAX/VMS 4.0. There were a couple VAX FORTRAN features we wanted to use during development that weren't FORTRAN-77. I wrote a preprocessor in DCL that converted the VAX FORTRAN constructs into equivalent FORTRAN-77. Roughly a third of the final product was code generated by this preprocessor.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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            Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi

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            Read the linked article and looked at the referenced roadmap. Having said that, can anyone provide an article from HP that says they are EOLing OpenVMS? The roadmap says "Standard Support at least through...". Can someone provide non-legal speak with an actual press release type article? Both my current and previous work sites use OpenVMS. Thanks, Tim

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              Read the linked article and looked at the referenced roadmap. Having said that, can anyone provide an article from HP that says they are EOLing OpenVMS? The roadmap says "Standard Support at least through...". Can someone provide non-legal speak with an actual press release type article? Both my current and previous work sites use OpenVMS. Thanks, Tim

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              Ravi Bhavnani
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              Support will be provided until 2020.  See the last entry on this[^] page. /ravi

              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi

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                Sound Dude
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                I still actively develop for VMS for a customer. The hardware has all turned into virtual machines running on (ironicly) HP servers. I spent most of the 80's and 90's coding Ada, C, C++, and (my personal favorite) VAX assembler. Two things I really miss that the Windows World never had: 1) the absolute consistency of the OS and run-time. Things worked exactly as you expected them to. 2) The fabulous documentation set. Everything explained, examples given, every return code and side effect documented. Fantastic OS for its time.

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                  Support will be provided until 2020.  See the last entry on this[^] page. /ravi

                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  Thanks... sent the information on.

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                    Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi

                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                    ENOTTY
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                    I still have a MicroVAX 3100-80 (and parts of the Orange Wall) sitting next to me. :cool:

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                      I still have a MicroVAX 3100-80 (and parts of the Orange Wall) sitting next to me. :cool:

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                      willcode99
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                      The REALLY old-timers in VMS land have the blue wall. I also miss working on VMS very much. It was (is) truly a terrific system.

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                        Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi

                        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                        RefugeeFromSlashDot
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                        As a former DEC employee, I'm glad K.O. isn't around to see this, even if he was a hardware guy.

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                          Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi

                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          RefugeeFromSlashDot
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                          I wish HP would rip out LMS and release VMS as open source software.

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                            I still actively develop for VMS for a customer. The hardware has all turned into virtual machines running on (ironicly) HP servers. I spent most of the 80's and 90's coding Ada, C, C++, and (my personal favorite) VAX assembler. Two things I really miss that the Windows World never had: 1) the absolute consistency of the OS and run-time. Things worked exactly as you expected them to. 2) The fabulous documentation set. Everything explained, examples given, every return code and side effect documented. Fantastic OS for its time.

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                            RefugeeFromSlashDot
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                            You are welcome :-) When I was an employee I managed to get a few things into the doc set to make it easier to find some documentation related to System Services.

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                              You are welcome :-) When I was an employee I managed to get a few things into the doc set to make it easier to find some documentation related to System Services.

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Were you @ ZKO? /ravi

                              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                Were you @ ZKO? /ravi

                                My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                RefugeeFromSlashDot
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                                Sorry, I was in the field in Texas. I submitted a lot of documentation SPRs and spent a lot of time in the VMSNotes Notes conference.

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