(Open)VMS - the end of an era
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RIP VMS. It was the first Gigabyte scale OS I ever came across and the last one to be fully documented on paper so it holds a special place in my personal history of computing. It will be interesting to see if its progeny go on to dominate the Terabyte era as well or if something genuinely conceptually new emerges.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Sad news. Future generations will miss it, and they won't even know. In my opinion, the last OS to be documented at all ;-) I have been missing the Digital Command Language for decades :-(
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Sad news. Future generations will miss it, and they won't even know. In my opinion, the last OS to be documented at all ;-) I have been missing the Digital Command Language for decades :-(
YvesDaoust wrote:
Digital Command Language
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... I worked for a defense contractor. We had a project which required strict FORTRAN-77 adherence. We were using VAX FORTRAN on a microVAX-II running VAX/VMS 4.0. There were a couple VAX FORTRAN features we wanted to use during development that weren't FORTRAN-77. I wrote a preprocessor in DCL that converted the VAX FORTRAN constructs into equivalent FORTRAN-77. Roughly a third of the final product was code generated by this preprocessor.
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Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi
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Read the linked article and looked at the referenced roadmap. Having said that, can anyone provide an article from HP that says they are EOLing OpenVMS? The roadmap says "Standard Support at least through...". Can someone provide non-legal speak with an actual press release type article? Both my current and previous work sites use OpenVMS. Thanks, Tim
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Read the linked article and looked at the referenced roadmap. Having said that, can anyone provide an article from HP that says they are EOLing OpenVMS? The roadmap says "Standard Support at least through...". Can someone provide non-legal speak with an actual press release type article? Both my current and previous work sites use OpenVMS. Thanks, Tim
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Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi
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I still actively develop for VMS for a customer. The hardware has all turned into virtual machines running on (ironicly) HP servers. I spent most of the 80's and 90's coding Ada, C, C++, and (my personal favorite) VAX assembler. Two things I really miss that the Windows World never had: 1) the absolute consistency of the OS and run-time. Things worked exactly as you expected them to. 2) The fabulous documentation set. Everything explained, examples given, every return code and side effect documented. Fantastic OS for its time.
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Thanks... sent the information on.
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Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi
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The REALLY old-timers in VMS land have the blue wall. I also miss working on VMS very much. It was (is) truly a terrific system.
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Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi
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As a former DEC employee, I'm glad K.O. isn't around to see this, even if he was a hardware guy.
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Windows NT grandaddy OpenVMS taken out back, single gunshot heard[^] /ravi
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I wish HP would rip out LMS and release VMS as open source software.
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I still actively develop for VMS for a customer. The hardware has all turned into virtual machines running on (ironicly) HP servers. I spent most of the 80's and 90's coding Ada, C, C++, and (my personal favorite) VAX assembler. Two things I really miss that the Windows World never had: 1) the absolute consistency of the OS and run-time. Things worked exactly as you expected them to. 2) The fabulous documentation set. Everything explained, examples given, every return code and side effect documented. Fantastic OS for its time.
You are welcome :-) When I was an employee I managed to get a few things into the doc set to make it easier to find some documentation related to System Services.
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You are welcome :-) When I was an employee I managed to get a few things into the doc set to make it easier to find some documentation related to System Services.
Were you @ ZKO? /ravi
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Were you @ ZKO? /ravi
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Sorry, I was in the field in Texas. I submitted a lot of documentation SPRs and spent a lot of time in the VMSNotes Notes conference.