Gephardt running..
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Damn it, I keep on telling the dems that if they would run someone who wasn't a total moron, I would vote for them. *sigh* four more years *whimper* Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
The problem is that you have to be a total moron to be a Democrat. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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Cool. No idea what this is about. Isn't it great that I live on the other side of the pond. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
Run naked in the snow until you're sweating like a stuck pig and can't seem to catch your breath. When the flu becomes pneumonia, they can cure that with a shot. - Roger WrightBrian Delahunty wrote: No idea what this is about What part are you referring to? If it is about the student loans, it came from a news article that showed how rich most candidates are, except for Gephardt that still has outstanding student loans. Thing to ponder though, would it be better to have a poor President or a rich one. Possibly a rich one would be used to greed and not controlled as much with large bribes (or at least require much larger ones ) :) Rocky Moore <><
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The problem is that you have to be a total moron to be a Democrat. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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Brian Delahunty wrote: No idea what this is about What part are you referring to? If it is about the student loans, it came from a news article that showed how rich most candidates are, except for Gephardt that still has outstanding student loans. Thing to ponder though, would it be better to have a poor President or a rich one. Possibly a rich one would be used to greed and not controlled as much with large bribes (or at least require much larger ones ) :) Rocky Moore <><
Well from this side of the pond (UK) the US political system looks like an even worse mess than our own (and that's saying something). Both major parties come across as corrupt and incompetent, and the whole system's governed by who can afford to spend the most. Not good. It seems like the existing parties need some competition (free market and all that)... Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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Brian Delahunty wrote: No idea what this is about What part are you referring to? If it is about the student loans, it came from a news article that showed how rich most candidates are, except for Gephardt that still has outstanding student loans. Thing to ponder though, would it be better to have a poor President or a rich one. Possibly a rich one would be used to greed and not controlled as much with large bribes (or at least require much larger ones ) :) Rocky Moore <><
Your political system. No offence but it looks a big pile of s**te from the way the CPians have been describing it since I started frequenting CP all those moons ago. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Well from this side of the pond (UK) the US political system looks like an even worse mess than our own (and that's saying something). Both major parties come across as corrupt and incompetent, and the whole system's governed by who can afford to spend the most. Not good. It seems like the existing parties need some competition (free market and all that)... Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia GraeschTrouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++
The money part is a common misconception. Down here in Georgia, we kicked out our governor even though he outspent the new governor 4 to 1. But of course, it would be silly to believe that money doesn't play a HUGE part. But establishing a cause/effect relationship might be hard. After all, "if" every person who voted for a candidate also gave that candidate 1 dollar during the campaign, then the person who won would also have had the most money. Did they have money because they were popular or were they popular because of the money. Of course, that in itself is a gross over simplification, but it does highlight the crux of the problem with trying to decide which came first. As far as both parties being corrupt, no argument there. Each has their own groups they "owe" political allegiance. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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Your political system. No offence but it looks a big pile of s**te from the way the CPians have been describing it since I started frequenting CP all those moons ago. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
Run naked in the snow until you're sweating like a stuck pig and can't seem to catch your breath. When the flu becomes pneumonia, they can cure that with a shot. - Roger WrightPeople tend to be partial to what they grew up with. When I hear about some of the political systems around the world, I wonder what brain dead moron came up with it. The Federalist Papers give a good frame of reference for the reasons why our government is set up the way it is. Of course, some things have changed over the years. http://memory.loc.gov/const/fed/fedpapers.html[^] No offence taken. Knee deep in the crap 24 hours a day. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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The money part is a common misconception. Down here in Georgia, we kicked out our governor even though he outspent the new governor 4 to 1. But of course, it would be silly to believe that money doesn't play a HUGE part. But establishing a cause/effect relationship might be hard. After all, "if" every person who voted for a candidate also gave that candidate 1 dollar during the campaign, then the person who won would also have had the most money. Did they have money because they were popular or were they popular because of the money. Of course, that in itself is a gross over simplification, but it does highlight the crux of the problem with trying to decide which came first. As far as both parties being corrupt, no argument there. Each has their own groups they "owe" political allegiance. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Good for you! What I was alluding to in the money bit was mostly the ludicrous amount spent by candidates on campaign publicity. I've occasionally wondered how things might change in the US if the amount of airtime and so on the parties had was regulated as strictly as it is in the UK. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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People tend to be partial to what they grew up with. When I hear about some of the political systems around the world, I wonder what brain dead moron came up with it. The Federalist Papers give a good frame of reference for the reasons why our government is set up the way it is. Of course, some things have changed over the years. http://memory.loc.gov/const/fed/fedpapers.html[^] No offence taken. Knee deep in the crap 24 hours a day. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
I'm not jumping to that conclusion myself. To be honest I know little abut the US political system so I'm just commenting on what people seem to be saying about it... it's mainly US citizens too. A lot of the US CPians here seem to have an awful lot of bad things to say about their government. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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The problem is that you have to be a total moron to be a Democrat. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
And this answer is correct. Richard I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. Albert Einstein
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Well from this side of the pond (UK) the US political system looks like an even worse mess than our own (and that's saying something). Both major parties come across as corrupt and incompetent, and the whole system's governed by who can afford to spend the most. Not good. It seems like the existing parties need some competition (free market and all that)... Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia GraeschTrouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: It seems like the existing parties need some competition (free market and all that)... I guess that is where the Independant comes in but the problem most likely runs much deeper. I have heard before that the only person qualified for office is the one that does not run ;) Rocky Moore <><
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People tend to be partial to what they grew up with. When I hear about some of the political systems around the world, I wonder what brain dead moron came up with it. The Federalist Papers give a good frame of reference for the reasons why our government is set up the way it is. Of course, some things have changed over the years. http://memory.loc.gov/const/fed/fedpapers.html[^] No offence taken. Knee deep in the crap 24 hours a day. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Tim Smith wrote: When I hear about some of the political systems around the world, I wonder what brain dead moron came up with it. Heh same here !! Regardz Colin J Davies
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I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: It seems like the existing parties need some competition (free market and all that)... I guess that is where the Independant comes in but the problem most likely runs much deeper. I have heard before that the only person qualified for office is the one that does not run ;) Rocky Moore <><
I know. Things changed somewhat here in 1981 when the 2nd Largest party fractured into two. The new party (SDP) allied with the 3rd party (Liberal) and the two eventually formed the Democrats (very different to your own party of the same name) and until the Falklands War looked likely to beat the Conservatives in the next election (Thatcher was hugely unpopular at the time). Although Labour and Conservative are the largest parties in Parliament, the Democrats mount a pretty effective opposition in many ways, and run a significant proportion of local government. Having a 3 party system also means protest votes tend to be rather effective at times! Personally, I despise the party system and the confrontation it breeds (I'm a consensus politics person!) but sadly that's unlikely anywhere for a long, long time. :( Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia GraeschTrouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++
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The problem is that you have to be a total moron to be a Democrat. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle