Question: Language Barrier
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Joe_Dert wrote:
When a foreigner, SHOWS CLEAR SIGNS of not 'truly' understanding English during a debate\argument\conversation\etc, what should I do?
1: Talk louder. 2: Invade his country, steal his natural resources. ..the list goes on.
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Joe_Dert wrote:
Yes.
I assumed so.
Joe_Dert wrote:
If you think you've won, you've fallen pray to a common problem with communities like this. (The ppl all tend to have similar view points, and humor, etc,.)
So, of course you guys think yourselves victorious.
I can tell you right now, your humor sucks, and your wit is nonexistent.Who are you aiming this rant at?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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I think your perspective is valid. However, you should also consider context and the context is The Lounge. If you're new to this site then I must warn you this is where the trolls hang out.
I wasn't aware of that. (I knew it was sort of a "general" chat.) Btw, I've had serious conversations in the lounge, it's true, look it up. (They should definitely add troll warnings to the description, it said, come, relax, talk about what's on your mind, no one mentioned this cluster f*ck. Is that all part of the show?) :P
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Who are you aiming this rant at?
Everyone who thought that acting childish was somehow funny, and worse, somehow, winning.
Would you claim that my question was rude in any way? And please read your rant again. Would you agree with me that it could be interpreted as being aggressive?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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And I call you a thin-skinned troll. I think you need to go back upstairs. Mommy is probably calling you to dinner.
No, I'm short tempered, and homicidal, there's a difference. It comes across a bit better in the real world. (Basically, picture Charles Manson on the other end of the computer, and you'll have a fairly accurate picture of me, seriously, I look just like Manson.) While I haven't actually had to kill anyone, because, they generally know better than to push me that far, I would without a doubt do so if I felt I was being disrespected, and they of course, refused to back off when warned. I don't bother making threats on the internet all that much, because, everyone goes, ah, scary internet man gonna beat me up, lol. But, truth be told, I'm telling the truth, and as in reality, I don't care who believes me, though, in reality, it's always a TON of fun MAKING believers out of people. :) (I enjoy fighting, what?) (See, now we're getting to know each other, isn't this fun?)
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I gave them the same respect I give to everyone else. In fact, I'm giving them special treatment, because of the language barrier, and that's the crux of this matter, and part of the point of this discussion. In other words, I have no trouble, calling out anyone who speaks English, if I feel they need to be called out, on the other hand, I felt, extra consideration was needed in this special case, due to the fact that they don't really understand the language. I know plenty of people from around the world, who don't speak English that well, however, they've always treated me with respect, and I do the same. (One of my best friends on the NET is from Germany, and I have trouble understanding him all the time.) This is about people disrespecting me, with the extra consideration that they don't fully understand the language. Hope this clarifies my position.
Joe_Dert wrote:
Hope this clarifies my position.
Perfectly, and the clarification was necessary ! Thanks !
~RaGE();
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Would you claim that my question was rude in any way? And please read your rant again. Would you agree with me that it could be interpreted as being aggressive?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
My rant was very aggressive. But, it was aimed at a specific group of people. (ie, The people trolling me.) So, unless you feel that you've earned that rant, and ARE one of those people, I fail to see the issue with it. That aside, your initial post could be interpreted as being passive aggressive in nature, and that's worse than outright animosity. (ie, Do you feel that you're winning? Yeah, seems a bit passive aggressive to me.) See, this goes both ways.
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My rant was very aggressive. But, it was aimed at a specific group of people. (ie, The people trolling me.) So, unless you feel that you've earned that rant, and ARE one of those people, I fail to see the issue with it. That aside, your initial post could be interpreted as being passive aggressive in nature, and that's worse than outright animosity. (ie, Do you feel that you're winning? Yeah, seems a bit passive aggressive to me.) See, this goes both ways.
Joe_Dert wrote:
My rant was very aggressive.
Agreed, you have been very aggressive through the whole thread.
Joe_Dert wrote:
But, it was aimed at a specific group of people. (ie, The people trolling me.)
That wasn't obvious.
Joe_Dert wrote:
That aside, your initial post could be interpreted as being passive aggressive in nature, and that's worse than outright animosity. (ie, Do you feel that you're winning? Yeah, seems a bit passive aggressive to me.)
Now you're really searching for excuses.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Joe_Dert wrote:
My rant was very aggressive.
Agreed, you have been very aggressive through the whole thread.
Joe_Dert wrote:
But, it was aimed at a specific group of people. (ie, The people trolling me.)
That wasn't obvious.
Joe_Dert wrote:
That aside, your initial post could be interpreted as being passive aggressive in nature, and that's worse than outright animosity. (ie, Do you feel that you're winning? Yeah, seems a bit passive aggressive to me.)
Now you're really searching for excuses.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
No, your post reeked of condescension, and seemed passive aggressive, if that wasn't your intention, fine. But, do you see now how easy it is to misread someone, perhaps you should think about that, because, you're doing it to me, right now.
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Agreed, you have been very aggressive through the whole thread.
Yes, when you troll people, they tend to get aggressive. Get yourselves some pest killer, take care of your troll problem, and you won't need to worry about that anymore.
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Marc A. Brown wrote:
Hey, some of us do. We're not all ignorant hicks
Yes you are.
Marc A. Brown wrote:
just like not all Aussies are drunken fools! :laugh:
Yes we are.
>Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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To be fair the Aussies really haven't been tested. Until someone cares enough about Australia to invade it...
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Nice try at turning it around but can't work for the reasons that a) what you believe passed as sarcastic humor didn't come close (writing a sentence in the style of a child doesn't count) and b) you didn't get any of it!!! Sad to say, the only stupid around here, right now, is you. Why, there is even another thread taking the piss out of you but I don't suppose that's registered with you.
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No, I was being truly sarcastic, not attempting to use some sort of, sarcastic humor. The funny part, is that you don't get it. (The joke was literally at your expense.) (See, you guys made a lame joke, and thought it was hilarious, only it wasn't, so, I made an equally stupid joke to mock you, ie, the sarcasm...) I think I'll go edit the original post, to include. /sarcasm Maybe that will help, but, I really doubt it.
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And I call you a thin-skinned troll. I think you need to go back upstairs. Mommy is probably calling you to dinner.
No, she's calling my name. Moaning more than calling.
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
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To be fair the Aussies really haven't been tested. Until someone cares enough about Australia to invade it...
MehGerbil wrote:
To be fair the Aussies really haven't been tested.
Until someone cares enough about Australia to invade it...Mate, we wouldn't have to do a thing. The wild life would take care of everything for us.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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In general be patient. There are some pretty awesome non-English speakers on here. FFS, them Geordies need someone to listen to them.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
That's it ahm gannin for t'get me ganzie.
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
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No, I'm short tempered, and homicidal, there's a difference. It comes across a bit better in the real world. (Basically, picture Charles Manson on the other end of the computer, and you'll have a fairly accurate picture of me, seriously, I look just like Manson.) While I haven't actually had to kill anyone, because, they generally know better than to push me that far, I would without a doubt do so if I felt I was being disrespected, and they of course, refused to back off when warned. I don't bother making threats on the internet all that much, because, everyone goes, ah, scary internet man gonna beat me up, lol. But, truth be told, I'm telling the truth, and as in reality, I don't care who believes me, though, in reality, it's always a TON of fun MAKING believers out of people. :) (I enjoy fighting, what?) (See, now we're getting to know each other, isn't this fun?)
:rolleyes:
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Right, and that's fine, sometimes. This is the problem, your childish nature, I love that stuff too, but, you REALLY need to know when, and how, and with whom it's okay. Btw, I've made a few lounge post, and had perfectly serious conversations with none of this nonsense, we even GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER, and THEN, made a few jokes, etc,. (That's the lounge I thought I was posting in, not this 12 year old troll factory.) I might have been okay with a few jokes, had the topic actually gotten more serious responses, but, right off the bat, you were sh*ting on me, and my topic. (Frankly, it p*ssed me off, and I went into troll mode myself.) I think you guys are misjudging me, and I can't possibly misjudge you, because you've presented nothing but false faces, I don't even know the real you. (Who was trolling, who was serious, I don't know, I don't you ppl well enough to tell the difference.)
You must be thinking of someone else. I didn't lock horns with you until you got nasty with folks having a little fun. There was, as far as I could tell, no ill will from anyone until you created it with your belligerent responses. Heck, if it weren't for that, I might not have become involved in the conversation at all, though Mick's joke about Americans might have drawn me in anyway. But I certainly wouldn't have engaged with you! Getting p*ssed off because your rant didn't bring fellow ranters is quite childish (funny how all these things you accuse me of represent your own behavior, rather than mine). And it's no way to get to know people. As to knowing the "real me", I use my real name and I've tried today to talk you down from the acts of pure jackassery that you've been performing, without any appreciation for my efforts. Ah well, too much to expect from a troll, I guess.
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You must be thinking of someone else. I didn't lock horns with you until you got nasty with folks having a little fun. There was, as far as I could tell, no ill will from anyone until you created it with your belligerent responses. Heck, if it weren't for that, I might not have become involved in the conversation at all, though Mick's joke about Americans might have drawn me in anyway. But I certainly wouldn't have engaged with you! Getting p*ssed off because your rant didn't bring fellow ranters is quite childish (funny how all these things you accuse me of represent your own behavior, rather than mine). And it's no way to get to know people. As to knowing the "real me", I use my real name and I've tried today to talk you down from the acts of pure jackassery that you've been performing, without any appreciation for my efforts. Ah well, too much to expect from a troll, I guess.
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:rolleyes:
I was just explaining my nature, it was brought up, and I clarified. I've long held, that people need not fear me to get their a** kicked by me. And I've also long held another belief, even if you manage to win, I'm coming back with a bat, and if that isn't enough, I'm coming back with a knife, etc, etc,. You've seen how relentless I am, that holds true in life as well, you'd have to kill me to stop me, or cripple me so bad I can't possibly get you. (Or do what everyone else does, and don't be dumb enough to make me that mad.) These are just a simple fact about myself, nothing more. --- Look, FWIW, I grew up poor, lived on the streets, we was homeless, I had nothing, etc,. (And worse, things I can't even speak of.) Life was rough, but, it made me something not to be trifled with. I'm a decent guy, I try to be intelligent, and civil, but, just as much as that's true, so is everything else that I've said.
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Your bridge. Go back to it.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol