Aspergers
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OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I come in at 29. Arse.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
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I come in at 29. Arse.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
The other awesome thing about this group is that we're more likely to see something like Aspergers as a badge of honour, than a disability. I saw something on Facebook about a book written to help parents whose kids are diagnosed and some parents were saying how upset they were, like their kid was retarded or something. I have a t-shirt, and it says 'I'm an aspie, what's your superpower ?'. I don't see it as a disability at all. Sure, I've always struggled socially, but, I don't feel disabled.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Interesting. 27 for me. So I'm just an antisocial sunshine, it's not medical...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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Interesting. 27 for me. So I'm just an antisocial sunshine, it's not medical...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
Shirley it'd be an Elephant Sunshine; this is the Lounge.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
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Interesting. 27 for me. So I'm just an antisocial sunshine, it's not medical...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
25 super
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Diagnosed aspie. It's common enough among programmers - at least the real ones, not the brogrammers. edit: scored 37, but it might not be reliable. I know how to game that test, so I may subconsciously have cheated.
Yeah, I tried to not 'game' it, I sure know what they are asking. But, I've done one in the presence of my wife and she claims I give my self too much credit and my score should be higher.....
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
So I'm just an antisocial sunshine, it's not medical...
I wouldn't stop taking them if I were you, just in case. :)
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
I already have the tin foil hat to keep the voices down...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Scored 32. Autism and Aspergers isn't a sickness or even a proper diagnosis as much as a collection of behavioural symptoms. It's just one side of the Gaussian distribution of personalities. I'm introvert, possibly an Aspie and borderline autistic. So let the psychologists have their fun. The funny part was that one question in the test was about whether I liked to collect information about categories of things. Isn't that what the shrinks are doing.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Scored 32. Autism and Aspergers isn't a sickness or even a proper diagnosis as much as a collection of behavioural symptoms. It's just one side of the Gaussian distribution of personalities. I'm introvert, possibly an Aspie and borderline autistic. So let the psychologists have their fun. The funny part was that one question in the test was about whether I liked to collect information about categories of things. Isn't that what the shrinks are doing.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
I'm introvert, possibly an Aspie and borderline autistic
Well, those are the same thing ( aspergers is the thin end of the autism spectrum ).
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
. The funny part was that one question in the test was about whether I liked to collect information about categories of things. Isn't that what the shrinks are doing.
*grin* I just read a book by a guy who has aspergers and he explains that collecting information isn't always weird. His example was, if you're a teenage boy and obsessed with girls legs, that's normal. If you're a teenage boy and obsessed with brands of door handles, that's probably weird.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
I'm introvert, possibly an Aspie and borderline autistic
Well, those are the same thing ( aspergers is the thin end of the autism spectrum ).
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
. The funny part was that one question in the test was about whether I liked to collect information about categories of things. Isn't that what the shrinks are doing.
*grin* I just read a book by a guy who has aspergers and he explains that collecting information isn't always weird. His example was, if you're a teenage boy and obsessed with girls legs, that's normal. If you're a teenage boy and obsessed with brands of door handles, that's probably weird.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
if you're a teenage boy and obsessed with girls legs, that's normal
But I'm a grownup man, kind of... :~
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Christian Graus wrote:
if you're a teenage boy and obsessed with girls legs, that's normal
But I'm a grownup man, kind of... :~
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
Well, his book was a follow on to a book about HIS son, and was mostly aimed at teenagers trying to understand a diagnosis and figure out strategies for dealing with it. I don't think the obsession ever ends, we're just expected to deal with it better as adults....
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Ha, 35 too. Depending on my mood, I could see that fluctuating easily a few points either way though.
Christian Graus wrote:
posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring
Well, that's a small comfort (I remember from a psychology class in college that my finger length ratio indicated high testosterone... or something of that sort). :)
Christian Graus wrote:
a good % of programmers are likely to be
Would be interesting to know the percent. From the recent poll, a bunch of us are INTJ's (way higher than the general population).
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
I'm introvert, possibly an Aspie and borderline autistic
Well, those are the same thing ( aspergers is the thin end of the autism spectrum ).
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
. The funny part was that one question in the test was about whether I liked to collect information about categories of things. Isn't that what the shrinks are doing.
*grin* I just read a book by a guy who has aspergers and he explains that collecting information isn't always weird. His example was, if you're a teenage boy and obsessed with girls legs, that's normal. If you're a teenage boy and obsessed with brands of door handles, that's probably weird.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
collecting [...] isn't always weird [...] girls legs, that's normal
:~ I guess normal and legal aren't necessarily the same thing.
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OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
31
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Ha, 35 too. Depending on my mood, I could see that fluctuating easily a few points either way though.
Christian Graus wrote:
posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring
Well, that's a small comfort (I remember from a psychology class in college that my finger length ratio indicated high testosterone... or something of that sort). :)
Christian Graus wrote:
a good % of programmers are likely to be
Would be interesting to know the percent. From the recent poll, a bunch of us are INTJ's (way higher than the general population).
AspDotNetDev wrote:
Depending on my mood, I could see that fluctuating easily a few points either way though.
*grin* the other thing is, I'd have been WAY higher as a teenager, I've certainly learned to cope with things that I could not deal with at all as a teen. It's also true I know enough about aspergers that I could game it for the max or min score if I wanted to, or pretty close, so I have to be careful if I am trying for a serious result.
AspDotNetDev wrote:
Well, that's a small comfort (I remember from a psychology class in college that my finger length ratio indicated high testosterone... or something of that sort).
*grin* and did you say 'ladies, you know what they say about guys with long fingers....' ?
AspDotNetDev wrote:
From the recent poll, a bunch of us are INTJ's (way higher than the general population).
It seems obvious to me. People who work alone, immersed in chains of complex logic, concentrating on the same thing for hours. We're not going to be extroverts with short attention spans, are we ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Well, his book was a follow on to a book about HIS son, and was mostly aimed at teenagers trying to understand a diagnosis and figure out strategies for dealing with it. I don't think the obsession ever ends, we're just expected to deal with it better as adults....
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
we're just expected to deal with it better as adults....
Oh, I have no problems dealing with it. :)
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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AspDotNetDev wrote:
Depending on my mood, I could see that fluctuating easily a few points either way though.
*grin* the other thing is, I'd have been WAY higher as a teenager, I've certainly learned to cope with things that I could not deal with at all as a teen. It's also true I know enough about aspergers that I could game it for the max or min score if I wanted to, or pretty close, so I have to be careful if I am trying for a serious result.
AspDotNetDev wrote:
Well, that's a small comfort (I remember from a psychology class in college that my finger length ratio indicated high testosterone... or something of that sort).
*grin* and did you say 'ladies, you know what they say about guys with long fingers....' ?
AspDotNetDev wrote:
From the recent poll, a bunch of us are INTJ's (way higher than the general population).
It seems obvious to me. People who work alone, immersed in chains of complex logic, concentrating on the same thing for hours. We're not going to be extroverts with short attention spans, are we ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
did you say 'ladies, you know what they say about guys with long fingers
Nope, but I should have said, "ladies, you know what they say about guys with a large difference in their ring and index fingers..." Actually, probably better that I didn't.
Christian Graus wrote:
We're not going to be extroverts with short attention spans, are we ?
You haven't met my coworkers then? ;P
