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  • M Matthew Faithfull

    Hmm 24. I think it would have higher in the past. Going into politics has definitely made a difference. Public speaking will beat the introvert out of you if you have the determination. Still a way off 16 which doesn't bother me in the least. I was born without the 'desire to be average/normal' gene. :-D

    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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    Christian Graus
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    Well, our score is higher, so how is that not better ? :P

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      I have run out of bookshelves, I read 1-2 books most weeks ( depending on length ) and just put them on the pile. CDs are the thing I collect for the sake of it, I buy CDs to have everything by an artist and sometimes don't even open them, I have over 4000, all alphabetical and then in order of release, and in a database. I used to collect movie posters, and also plastic figurines. I started with a couple and became obsessive. I sold those to win my wife. I made money on them.

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      Lost User
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      Christian Graus wrote:

      most weeks ( depending on length )

      Wow - they even have different length weeks in Tassie :)

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        most weeks ( depending on length )

        Wow - they even have different length weeks in Tassie :)

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        Of course, twice a year, when daylight savings starts and when it ends

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        • C Christian Graus

          No, you're not, but we let you hang around here anyhow. It makes the rest of us look cooler.

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          _Damian S_
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          Christian Graus wrote:

          No, you're not, but we let you hang around here anyhow. It makes the rest of us look cooler.

          Bwahahaha... glad to be of assistance!!

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          • C Christian Graus

            Well, our score is higher, so how is that not better ? :P

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Matthew Faithfull
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            It probably is for many situations. We're all good at different things and adapted to solve different types of problems, some social, some scientific, some mechanical, some philosophical. The really crazy thing is when we try to educate everyone to be the same, do the same, think the same. We loose collectively far more than we gain and end up with a lot of unfulfilled people who are not doing what they were made for. Those of us who refuse to be moulded in our thinking to 'normal' are given labels. The only reason I don't have one is that no one could ever classify what was different about my thinking. I'm not an Aspie nor properly dyslexic nor anything else there's a name for, just different. ;P There's a B5 quote I would have in my sig if I could ever remember it properly. Leeta Alexander says something like, "In every war you have a lot of small weapons, less medium weapons and a few really large weapons that you have just in case things go really badly. You don't want to use them but you have them just in case. I'm one of those."

            "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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            • M Matthew Faithfull

              It probably is for many situations. We're all good at different things and adapted to solve different types of problems, some social, some scientific, some mechanical, some philosophical. The really crazy thing is when we try to educate everyone to be the same, do the same, think the same. We loose collectively far more than we gain and end up with a lot of unfulfilled people who are not doing what they were made for. Those of us who refuse to be moulded in our thinking to 'normal' are given labels. The only reason I don't have one is that no one could ever classify what was different about my thinking. I'm not an Aspie nor properly dyslexic nor anything else there's a name for, just different. ;P There's a B5 quote I would have in my sig if I could ever remember it properly. Leeta Alexander says something like, "In every war you have a lot of small weapons, less medium weapons and a few really large weapons that you have just in case things go really badly. You don't want to use them but you have them just in case. I'm one of those."

              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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              Christian Graus
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              Our system of education was invented to create drones for the industrial revolution. It's tried to move past that, but it's still that, at the core. *grin* love the quote.

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              • C Christian Graus

                Wow - 9 ? How is that even possible ? :P

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                Wow - 9 ? How is that even possible ?

                When I leave my cave, I'm actually very involved and comfortable socially. Actually, come to think of it, even in my cave, my housemate (a lovely young woman) and I are quite interactive in daily living, so my non-nerdy side, which is actually my stronger side, definitely affected how I answered a lot of those questions. Marc

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  Wow - 9 ? How is that even possible ?

                  When I leave my cave, I'm actually very involved and comfortable socially. Actually, come to think of it, even in my cave, my housemate (a lovely young woman) and I are quite interactive in daily living, so my non-nerdy side, which is actually my stronger side, definitely affected how I answered a lot of those questions. Marc

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                  Christian Graus
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                  I am sure it's possible to be more socially aware than I am. I guess I just can't fathom being able to answer in a way that would score that low. I am in awe of you :-)

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    I am sure it's possible to be more socially aware than I am. I guess I just can't fathom being able to answer in a way that would score that low. I am in awe of you :-)

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    I am in awe of you

                    LOL! No need! Marc

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

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                      Mark H2
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                      Scored 36. Which means MY wife is correct(ish). :laugh: She did an indepth study of autism and aspergers for her early childhood teaching degree (one of her papers is now being used as a "this is a perfect textbook paper" example for other students so she knows her stuff) and has always insisted that I'm borderline aspergers and I know I certainly have the required traits. And my 13 year old son certainly fits the bill too. Little bugger has a photographic mind for minute detail and never forgets a thing (he memorised the periodic table in about 30 minutes!??$@!). Even his teachers at school are now using him as an "instant recall" device when they forget where the up to. Now, what does having to hang out the washing with matching pegs indicate? I've tried not to, but it just doesn't look right.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Am I safe with a 16? And don't tell me 'it depends where you live' please...

                        Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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                          Am I safe with a 16? And don't tell me 'it depends where you live' please...

                          Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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                          Christian Graus
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                          You appear to be average, is that the same as safe ? :P

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                            OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            S Houghtelin
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                            I scored 19, more or less “normal”, but people still think I'm strange. I'm an INFJ I (100% introverted) and I do most things intuitively which drives my peers with "Aspergic" tendencies crazy because I don’t use methods in the manner they say I should. I don’t color inside the lines. People who can spend hours debating tabs vs. spaces and the benefits of trailing curly braces drive me crazy. I have noticed people with Asperger's tend to be particularly pedantic.

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                            When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition.

                            I agree with your statement, I have a degenerative joint condition that was considered rare at one time but has been found to be much more common than they thought. Research has found that there are even conditions which are just variants of the one I have. With broader understanding of any condition there also comes more ways of dealing with the nature of the condition through shared experiences.

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                            • C CPallini

                              22. Probably I'm not even a programmer.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

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                                I scored 16, as against the average of 16.4

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                                  OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

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                                  35 here

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

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                                    21 Feeling like cPallini below...

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      Yup. When you come down to brass tacks, social skills only serve egos, which is why they get such high priority, but, like anything else you're not good at, you can learn how to do it -- and, because you've made the effort to learn, you can end up doing it better than those who haven't. One thing I have noticed about aspergers "sufferers" (classifying it as a disease is a ****ing insult, which I will happily campaign against) is that they tend to spend more time doing things because they're the right things to do, rather than because it's what they want (to feed their egos/pockets/whatever). So it looks like as well as being the best researchers, the best innovators, and the best implementors, we're the all-round best people, who contribute more to the world than the "normal" people. If there are more aspergers "sufferers" than there have been in the past, it looks to me like it's because evolution is taking us a step further away from the monkeys.

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                                        OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        The biggest problem in psychology today is - if you behave different than social norms tell you to, we have to give you some diagnosis. My opinion at "aspies" (I might be one) is that they are normal people that just behave differently (you can have hyperactive people, pasive people ect.). So I would never make some special group for introvert, observant, asocial type of people. And there is always one quote that goes something like this : "Today if you don't fit in school they try to find you diagniosis (so we have ADHD....), in my days we were just stupid

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                                          Scored 32. Autism and Aspergers isn't a sickness or even a proper diagnosis as much as a collection of behavioural symptoms. It's just one side of the Gaussian distribution of personalities. I'm introvert, possibly an Aspie and borderline autistic. So let the psychologists have their fun. The funny part was that one question in the test was about whether I liked to collect information about categories of things. Isn't that what the shrinks are doing.

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                                          DoStuffZ
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                                          Scored: 33 I've been to the psych and he deemed me NT (NeuroTypical), though he did say I showed some of the symptoms. So I'm officially and medically semi-aspie ;D, not truly in one or the other camp. I hate the ones writing "suffering from autism/aspergers", it is not a disease that you can take a pill for and be cured. Are you suffering from being alive or of the human race?

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