Stuck in a deadlock situation. Non technical question related to asp.
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In college I was good at asp.net. Then I failed final year. Then it took me 2 years to complete it. In these 2 years I lost hands on from asp. So when I got first interview cleared from a IT sector, I took it irrespective of the fact that its a support profile not programming. One thing led to another and hence completed 2 years in the support profile in the same company. A couple of months ago the programming bug got me again and i started to re-learn what was lost. Today I can design a website. To prove that I am not just boosting I even programmed a e commerce website that is live. The problem is that in programming this support experience won't be counted. If I start as fresher, it wouldn't be enough to pay off my bills and loan. I recently gave an interview, when the person heard that I am working on support profile since 2 years and not worked on programming in the office, he didn't even give me a chance to boost about the website that I created and kicked me off. Assuming it was that employer specific, I gave another interview, result was the same. Now I am stuck in a situation like dll hell. Its a deadlock. Suggest, help or simply offer a job...but give a solution please. My mind has stopped working over this.
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In college I was good at asp.net. Then I failed final year. Then it took me 2 years to complete it. In these 2 years I lost hands on from asp. So when I got first interview cleared from a IT sector, I took it irrespective of the fact that its a support profile not programming. One thing led to another and hence completed 2 years in the support profile in the same company. A couple of months ago the programming bug got me again and i started to re-learn what was lost. Today I can design a website. To prove that I am not just boosting I even programmed a e commerce website that is live. The problem is that in programming this support experience won't be counted. If I start as fresher, it wouldn't be enough to pay off my bills and loan. I recently gave an interview, when the person heard that I am working on support profile since 2 years and not worked on programming in the office, he didn't even give me a chance to boost about the website that I created and kicked me off. Assuming it was that employer specific, I gave another interview, result was the same. Now I am stuck in a situation like dll hell. Its a deadlock. Suggest, help or simply offer a job...but give a solution please. My mind has stopped working over this.
First, run a spell-check and grammar-check on your post, fix the errors, and ask again. You have enough mistakes to make it seem like you're just ranting and not serious about finding a real solution. Second, if you want more than just a few random tips about good job searching techniques, be very specific about which skillset and metropolitan area you are trying to obtain a job in.
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In college I was good at asp.net. Then I failed final year. Then it took me 2 years to complete it. In these 2 years I lost hands on from asp. So when I got first interview cleared from a IT sector, I took it irrespective of the fact that its a support profile not programming. One thing led to another and hence completed 2 years in the support profile in the same company. A couple of months ago the programming bug got me again and i started to re-learn what was lost. Today I can design a website. To prove that I am not just boosting I even programmed a e commerce website that is live. The problem is that in programming this support experience won't be counted. If I start as fresher, it wouldn't be enough to pay off my bills and loan. I recently gave an interview, when the person heard that I am working on support profile since 2 years and not worked on programming in the office, he didn't even give me a chance to boost about the website that I created and kicked me off. Assuming it was that employer specific, I gave another interview, result was the same. Now I am stuck in a situation like dll hell. Its a deadlock. Suggest, help or simply offer a job...but give a solution please. My mind has stopped working over this.
Well, maybe the way you present yourself to potential employers is not good enough to highlight your programming skills. Experience is experience, you have to make clear that when you worked in "support" it will help you help them make better software (web site,... ) by knowing problems that others reported to you. When looking for a job, you have to sell yourself, not just for yourself, but how it will help your future employer make more money because you will help them create better software (web site) that will need less support in the future.
Nihil obstat
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In college I was good at asp.net. Then I failed final year. Then it took me 2 years to complete it. In these 2 years I lost hands on from asp. So when I got first interview cleared from a IT sector, I took it irrespective of the fact that its a support profile not programming. One thing led to another and hence completed 2 years in the support profile in the same company. A couple of months ago the programming bug got me again and i started to re-learn what was lost. Today I can design a website. To prove that I am not just boosting I even programmed a e commerce website that is live. The problem is that in programming this support experience won't be counted. If I start as fresher, it wouldn't be enough to pay off my bills and loan. I recently gave an interview, when the person heard that I am working on support profile since 2 years and not worked on programming in the office, he didn't even give me a chance to boost about the website that I created and kicked me off. Assuming it was that employer specific, I gave another interview, result was the same. Now I am stuck in a situation like dll hell. Its a deadlock. Suggest, help or simply offer a job...but give a solution please. My mind has stopped working over this.
Of course your resume/CV has the support experience on it when they called you in to interview. If they are so set against that type of a position in your past, then why did they bring you in to talk in the first place? I agree with Maximilienm that you can spin it as a good thing as well.
Steve Maier
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In college I was good at asp.net. Then I failed final year. Then it took me 2 years to complete it. In these 2 years I lost hands on from asp. So when I got first interview cleared from a IT sector, I took it irrespective of the fact that its a support profile not programming. One thing led to another and hence completed 2 years in the support profile in the same company. A couple of months ago the programming bug got me again and i started to re-learn what was lost. Today I can design a website. To prove that I am not just boosting I even programmed a e commerce website that is live. The problem is that in programming this support experience won't be counted. If I start as fresher, it wouldn't be enough to pay off my bills and loan. I recently gave an interview, when the person heard that I am working on support profile since 2 years and not worked on programming in the office, he didn't even give me a chance to boost about the website that I created and kicked me off. Assuming it was that employer specific, I gave another interview, result was the same. Now I am stuck in a situation like dll hell. Its a deadlock. Suggest, help or simply offer a job...but give a solution please. My mind has stopped working over this.
Looks for a new or emerging market, that way there will be less competition in the market place. Does it have to be asp.net? A real programmer can use any languag, it's all about aptitude if you've got that you should be have to turn your hand to any language and framework. Try and long beyond the the horizon and catch the next big wave... Android?
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In college I was good at asp.net. Then I failed final year. Then it took me 2 years to complete it. In these 2 years I lost hands on from asp. So when I got first interview cleared from a IT sector, I took it irrespective of the fact that its a support profile not programming. One thing led to another and hence completed 2 years in the support profile in the same company. A couple of months ago the programming bug got me again and i started to re-learn what was lost. Today I can design a website. To prove that I am not just boosting I even programmed a e commerce website that is live. The problem is that in programming this support experience won't be counted. If I start as fresher, it wouldn't be enough to pay off my bills and loan. I recently gave an interview, when the person heard that I am working on support profile since 2 years and not worked on programming in the office, he didn't even give me a chance to boost about the website that I created and kicked me off. Assuming it was that employer specific, I gave another interview, result was the same. Now I am stuck in a situation like dll hell. Its a deadlock. Suggest, help or simply offer a job...but give a solution please. My mind has stopped working over this.
This is what I posted in the "Quick Answers" form. Rentacoder[^] Freelancer[^] Start doing jobs in your spare time, build up your "portfolio", and then you can have more experience to put on your resume. Any delusions though about this not taking a couple years should be expelled from your brain, having a non-programming degree and trying to break into a saturated job market with people who have been programming professionally is especially difficult. This isn't the .COM era anymore where we had a hard time finding talent, people are working for peanuts just to have a job near code. --- To add to that, realize that there are thousands of programmers coming out of school right now with a degree in programming (Computer Science or Software Engineering) that can't get a job. These are highly qualified individuals who lack experience, its an employer market right now, meaning the favor is on the employer to get exactly what they want. The job market is still recovering and we employers can be very picky. On top of that, if you are applying for a programming job and you mis-represent yourself on your resume to get your foot in the door (talking up your skills, experience, etc) this is usually where the interview immediately ends. It doesn't take long for a good recruiter to figure out how much bullshit you put on your resume.
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In college I was good at asp.net. Then I failed final year. Then it took me 2 years to complete it. In these 2 years I lost hands on from asp. So when I got first interview cleared from a IT sector, I took it irrespective of the fact that its a support profile not programming. One thing led to another and hence completed 2 years in the support profile in the same company. A couple of months ago the programming bug got me again and i started to re-learn what was lost. Today I can design a website. To prove that I am not just boosting I even programmed a e commerce website that is live. The problem is that in programming this support experience won't be counted. If I start as fresher, it wouldn't be enough to pay off my bills and loan. I recently gave an interview, when the person heard that I am working on support profile since 2 years and not worked on programming in the office, he didn't even give me a chance to boost about the website that I created and kicked me off. Assuming it was that employer specific, I gave another interview, result was the same. Now I am stuck in a situation like dll hell. Its a deadlock. Suggest, help or simply offer a job...but give a solution please. My mind has stopped working over this.
You boost cars not websites? Often the problem in job searching with little experience is "over-reaching". There are entry level jobs out there but what you want is a non-entry level job without the background to support it. You would really have to ace an interview to make that happen. The truth? If you Ace an interview, background is not an issue otherwise you would have never been interviewed in the first place.
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In college I was good at asp.net. Then I failed final year. Then it took me 2 years to complete it. In these 2 years I lost hands on from asp. So when I got first interview cleared from a IT sector, I took it irrespective of the fact that its a support profile not programming. One thing led to another and hence completed 2 years in the support profile in the same company. A couple of months ago the programming bug got me again and i started to re-learn what was lost. Today I can design a website. To prove that I am not just boosting I even programmed a e commerce website that is live. The problem is that in programming this support experience won't be counted. If I start as fresher, it wouldn't be enough to pay off my bills and loan. I recently gave an interview, when the person heard that I am working on support profile since 2 years and not worked on programming in the office, he didn't even give me a chance to boost about the website that I created and kicked me off. Assuming it was that employer specific, I gave another interview, result was the same. Now I am stuck in a situation like dll hell. Its a deadlock. Suggest, help or simply offer a job...but give a solution please. My mind has stopped working over this.
cluelessentity wrote:
The problem is that in programming this support experience won't be counted. If I start as fresher, it wouldn't be enough to pay off my bills and loan.
Seriously, after 2 years of support you are making that much more than entry level development? Having been there, highly unlikely. Also, why should your support years count towards development experience. If I took a support guy that has been here 10 years, he would be entry level in development. My path: support -> performance testing -> automation/simulation development -> development
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This is what I posted in the "Quick Answers" form. Rentacoder[^] Freelancer[^] Start doing jobs in your spare time, build up your "portfolio", and then you can have more experience to put on your resume. Any delusions though about this not taking a couple years should be expelled from your brain, having a non-programming degree and trying to break into a saturated job market with people who have been programming professionally is especially difficult. This isn't the .COM era anymore where we had a hard time finding talent, people are working for peanuts just to have a job near code. --- To add to that, realize that there are thousands of programmers coming out of school right now with a degree in programming (Computer Science or Software Engineering) that can't get a job. These are highly qualified individuals who lack experience, its an employer market right now, meaning the favor is on the employer to get exactly what they want. The job market is still recovering and we employers can be very picky. On top of that, if you are applying for a programming job and you mis-represent yourself on your resume to get your foot in the door (talking up your skills, experience, etc) this is usually where the interview immediately ends. It doesn't take long for a good recruiter to figure out how much bullshit you put on your resume.
It is not an employers' market in the whole country; there are developer shortages in the major Texas cities (and, from what I hear, also in East Coast cities). Since 2011 or so, employers have been outbidding each other to get experienced candidates to join them. It might not be quite that good for entry level employees, and there might be parts of the nation where the demand is low, but it's far from an employer's market right now. Also, on another note, I never found any rent-a-code sites to be worth the time it takes to read the postings. Trying to get experience any way you can is generally a good idea, but those rent-a-code sites are among the worst ways of going about it.