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  • L Lost User

    You know when the business comes to you and says we want to do something and you say that is really stupid. They insist on having it done so you so OK, but you must make sure you do this otherwise you are going to get in all sorts of trouble and they say yes. So you do something stupid and try to forget your concerns then months down the line they come to you with a small problem, you have a look and notice an unholy mess and say to them remember when I told you you must do this? You didn't do it did you? And they say no. How do you avoid hurting people at that point?

    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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    Lost User
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    Switch to hourly billing and enjoy the lifetime of employment.

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      You know when the business comes to you and says we want to do something and you say that is really stupid. They insist on having it done so you so OK, but you must make sure you do this otherwise you are going to get in all sorts of trouble and they say yes. So you do something stupid and try to forget your concerns then months down the line they come to you with a small problem, you have a look and notice an unholy mess and say to them remember when I told you you must do this? You didn't do it did you? And they say no. How do you avoid hurting people at that point?

      “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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      ChrisElston wrote:

      you must make sure you do this otherwise you are going to get in all sorts of trouble and they say yes

      This should be a lesson learned. Idiots are going to f*** up...count on it! In this age of remote desktops, it should have been easy enough for you to make sure 'this' was done, thereby saving yourself some unnecessary work. On the other hand, it's still work...and you are getting paid to fix their mess right? Go have a double after work and shrug it off man. :-D

      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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      • L Lost User

        You know when the business comes to you and says we want to do something and you say that is really stupid. They insist on having it done so you so OK, but you must make sure you do this otherwise you are going to get in all sorts of trouble and they say yes. So you do something stupid and try to forget your concerns then months down the line they come to you with a small problem, you have a look and notice an unholy mess and say to them remember when I told you you must do this? You didn't do it did you? And they say no. How do you avoid hurting people at that point?

        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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        Joan M
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        There are methods that allow to kill painlessly... I'm just sayin'... :rolleyes:

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        • J Joan M

          There are methods that allow to kill painlessly... I'm just sayin'... :rolleyes:

          [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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          Big Daddy Farang
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          I expect he'd want a certain amount of pain in this case.

          BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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          • K kmoorevs

            ChrisElston wrote:

            you must make sure you do this otherwise you are going to get in all sorts of trouble and they say yes

            This should be a lesson learned. Idiots are going to f*** up...count on it! In this age of remote desktops, it should have been easy enough for you to make sure 'this' was done, thereby saving yourself some unnecessary work. On the other hand, it's still work...and you are getting paid to fix their mess right? Go have a double after work and shrug it off man. :-D

            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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            Lost User
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            No remote desktop I know of that allows you to check what manual process they put in place to cover a gap in the systems so ensuring a set of control data doesn't get out of sync.

            “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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            • L Lost User

              No remote desktop I know of that allows you to check what manual process they put in place to cover a gap in the systems so ensuring a set of control data doesn't get out of sync.

              “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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              kmoorevs
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              My apoligies. This is one of those instances where I don't know what I'm talking about...think I'll have the double. :)

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                You know when the business comes to you and says we want to do something and you say that is really stupid. They insist on having it done so you so OK, but you must make sure you do this otherwise you are going to get in all sorts of trouble and they say yes. So you do something stupid and try to forget your concerns then months down the line they come to you with a small problem, you have a look and notice an unholy mess and say to them remember when I told you you must do this? You didn't do it did you? And they say no. How do you avoid hurting people at that point?

                “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                jschell
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                ChrisElston wrote:

                How do you avoid hurting people at that point?

                Because I don't say "do you remember" but instead I point them at the email and/or requirements/story with that in it. And then tell them to open a ticket to have it fixed.

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                • K kmoorevs

                  My apoligies. This is one of those instances where I don't know what I'm talking about...think I'll have the double. :)

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                  Lost User
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                  :-D

                  “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    On the other hand, you get paid to perpetuate the c@ck-up, then you get paid again to undo the damage. And generally, because you can predict the damage that the c@ck-up is going to cause, you can plan for the repair when you do the perpetration, and still gouge charge the customer as a punishment appropriately and get the fix done in far less time than they are expecting. And get a reputation as a Team Playing Miracle Worker into the bargain... :laugh:

                    The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                    Matthew Faithfull
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                    Now you're just writing my biography. Steady on there I'm not ready to retire just yet. :)

                    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                    • L Lost User

                      You know when the business comes to you and says we want to do something and you say that is really stupid. They insist on having it done so you so OK, but you must make sure you do this otherwise you are going to get in all sorts of trouble and they say yes. So you do something stupid and try to forget your concerns then months down the line they come to you with a small problem, you have a look and notice an unholy mess and say to them remember when I told you you must do this? You didn't do it did you? And they say no. How do you avoid hurting people at that point?

                      “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                      JimmyRopes
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                      ChrisElston wrote:

                      You know when the business comes to you and says we want to do something and you say that is really stupid.
                       
                      They insist on having it done so you so OK, but you must make sure you do this otherwise you are going to get in all sorts of trouble and they say yes.

                      Smile and remember that when they do not listen to you you get paid twice; once when you do it their way and once when you do it the right way. :~

                      The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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