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Why do people like James Bond Films?

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  • R Rob Philpott

    I haven't bothered to watch any of the newer ones, except about a third of the last one before getting bored and turning it off. Clichéd unlike any other series you know what's going to happen. Fights he always wins, smug one-liners and an entirely predictable ending. But, for good drama you need to get to know the characters in order to be able to emphasise with them. They need some depth. When I cap a bad guy it often stays with me for days, I don't just shrug it off and have some poncy cocktail like it never happened. The guy clearly has a personality disorder. District 9 was an awesome film in this regard, and my favourite film ever is 'Madre Muerta' which I'm sure none of you will have seen, It's Spanish and follows some thoroughly bad-ass criminal who eventually just breaks down on his knees when rejected by his victim. It is the perfect story. Despite all the fuss about British Secret Service and sharp suites, the Yanks showed us how it was done in True Lies. That's what James Bond should be. James Cameron took the genre on and whipped 007 on the bottom.

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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    wizardzz
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    Only a third into it? Did you even get to see Javier Bardem's performance? He did a great job. I'll admit though, that much of the movie was predictable, even stealing from the latest Batman movies.

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    • Z ZurdoDev

      I'm with you. Most movies are terrible. I'm tired of them. They're all the same.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      dusty_dex
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      I usually avoid anything involving computers/hackers in the story. There complete bollocks. Including the Matrix.

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      • R Rob Philpott

        I haven't bothered to watch any of the newer ones, except about a third of the last one before getting bored and turning it off. Clichéd unlike any other series you know what's going to happen. Fights he always wins, smug one-liners and an entirely predictable ending. But, for good drama you need to get to know the characters in order to be able to emphasise with them. They need some depth. When I cap a bad guy it often stays with me for days, I don't just shrug it off and have some poncy cocktail like it never happened. The guy clearly has a personality disorder. District 9 was an awesome film in this regard, and my favourite film ever is 'Madre Muerta' which I'm sure none of you will have seen, It's Spanish and follows some thoroughly bad-ass criminal who eventually just breaks down on his knees when rejected by his victim. It is the perfect story. Despite all the fuss about British Secret Service and sharp suites, the Yanks showed us how it was done in True Lies. That's what James Bond should be. James Cameron took the genre on and whipped 007 on the bottom.

        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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        Marc Clifton
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        Rob Philpott wrote:

        The guy clearly has a personality disorder.

        Well obviously. That, in many ways, is the point.

        Rob Philpott wrote:

        Fights he always wins, smug one-liners and an entirely predictable ending.

        Isn't that every teenager's fantasy?

        Rob Philpott wrote:

        They need some depth. When I cap a bad guy it often stays with me for days, I don't just shrug it off and have some poncy cocktail like it never happened.

        Who wants all that melodrama? The message is simple. Cap a bad guy, get l... Simple, elegant, no brain power involved, no commitment, no emotional involvement, just pure basic needs. Like I said. Every teenager's (well, almost) fantasy - violence and hormones. And since most men don't progress beyond teenager maturity, it meets the fantasy needs of many. Obviously, you are "the superior man."[^] ;) Marc

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          I usually avoid anything involving computers/hackers in the story. There complete bollocks. Including the Matrix.

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          ZurdoDev
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          How about when a bad guy asks a hacker how long it will take to crack something and they say 10 hours. The bad guy then puts the gun to his head and says you have 10 seconds and somehow he does it. :) :laugh:

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            Rob Philpott wrote:

            The guy clearly has a personality disorder.

            Well obviously. That, in many ways, is the point.

            Rob Philpott wrote:

            Fights he always wins, smug one-liners and an entirely predictable ending.

            Isn't that every teenager's fantasy?

            Rob Philpott wrote:

            They need some depth. When I cap a bad guy it often stays with me for days, I don't just shrug it off and have some poncy cocktail like it never happened.

            Who wants all that melodrama? The message is simple. Cap a bad guy, get l... Simple, elegant, no brain power involved, no commitment, no emotional involvement, just pure basic needs. Like I said. Every teenager's (well, almost) fantasy - violence and hormones. And since most men don't progress beyond teenager maturity, it meets the fantasy needs of many. Obviously, you are "the superior man."[^] ;) Marc

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            Rob Philpott
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            no brain power involved

            I guess that's the guts of it. How depressing. And as for the book: A Spiritual Guide to Mastering the Challenges of Women (impossible/no good can come of it) Work (the same) and Sexual Desire (just sit it out and it pretty much goes away after the age of 40, although those who I speak to who are having affairs/mid-life crises don't seem to share that view.) A Porsche and an 18 year old girlfriend - that's the proper way to have a mid-life crisis. Anyway, I digress.

            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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              mark merrens wrote:

              [Daniel Craig] By far the best Bond since Connery.

              I beg to differ.[^] ;P

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              Simon_Whale
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              It was a shame that he quit after 1 movie I would of liked of seen him in a couple other Bond movies. Daniel Craig is the best modern Bond, but still doesn't beat Connery

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              • R Rob Philpott

                Marc Clifton wrote:

                no brain power involved

                I guess that's the guts of it. How depressing. And as for the book: A Spiritual Guide to Mastering the Challenges of Women (impossible/no good can come of it) Work (the same) and Sexual Desire (just sit it out and it pretty much goes away after the age of 40, although those who I speak to who are having affairs/mid-life crises don't seem to share that view.) A Porsche and an 18 year old girlfriend - that's the proper way to have a mid-life crisis. Anyway, I digress.

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                Marc Clifton
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                Rob Philpott wrote:

                just sit it out and it pretty much goes away after the age of 40,

                I'm 50 and it definitely hasn't gone away! (Though, I haven't exactly been "sitting it out" either, harhar)

                Rob Philpott wrote:

                A Porsche and an 18 year old girlfriend - that's the proper way to have a mid-life crisis.

                Or any other crisis for that matter! :-D Marc

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                • Z ZurdoDev

                  How about when a bad guy asks a hacker how long it will take to crack something and they say 10 hours. The bad guy then puts the gun to his head and says you have 10 seconds and somehow he does it. :) :laugh:

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  dusty_dex
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                  ryanb31 wrote:

                  How about when a bad guy asks a hacker how long it will take to crack something and they say 10 hours. The bad guy then puts the gun to his head and says you have 10 seconds and somehow he does it. :) :laugh:

                  And gets a complimentary blowjob too. Man I really hate that hollwood BS. :mad: ;P

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                  • S Simon_Whale

                    It was a shame that he quit after 1 movie I would of liked of seen him in a couple other Bond movies. Daniel Craig is the best modern Bond, but still doesn't beat Connery

                    Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                    dusty_dex
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                    Even Connery's plot lines weren't very good. Daniel Craig has had more down-to-Earth stories, none of that idiotic bowler hat weapon shit.

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                    • R Rob Philpott

                      I haven't bothered to watch any of the newer ones, except about a third of the last one before getting bored and turning it off. Clichéd unlike any other series you know what's going to happen. Fights he always wins, smug one-liners and an entirely predictable ending. But, for good drama you need to get to know the characters in order to be able to emphasise with them. They need some depth. When I cap a bad guy it often stays with me for days, I don't just shrug it off and have some poncy cocktail like it never happened. The guy clearly has a personality disorder. District 9 was an awesome film in this regard, and my favourite film ever is 'Madre Muerta' which I'm sure none of you will have seen, It's Spanish and follows some thoroughly bad-ass criminal who eventually just breaks down on his knees when rejected by his victim. It is the perfect story. Despite all the fuss about British Secret Service and sharp suites, the Yanks showed us how it was done in True Lies. That's what James Bond should be. James Cameron took the genre on and whipped 007 on the bottom.

                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                      Mladen Jankovic
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                      Because different people like different things - imagine that. It's called entertainment[^]

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                      • D dusty_dex

                        Even Connery's plot lines weren't very good. Daniel Craig has had more down-to-Earth stories, none of that idiotic bowler hat weapon shit.

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                        Simon_Whale
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                        Daniel Craig was brought in when they rebooted the series as Pierce Brosnan made the films too much about the gadgets

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                        • S Simon_Whale

                          Daniel Craig was brought in when they rebooted the series as Pierce Brosnan made the films too much about the gadgets

                          Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                          dusty_dex
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                          Brosnan's funniest moment was wasting the voice assisted car. "bitch!"

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